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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:11 PM
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Faux News reveals BushCo's argument for warrantless spying of Americans..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182824,00.html

NSA Surveillance Legality Debate Narrows

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Other experts agree that a warrant is not needed until the U.S.-based individual becomes a suspect.

"If ... you are not targeting the person in the United States, you get the conversations, you are perfectly free to use those, that information provide it to other government agencies, if you want," said Bryan Cunningham, a former official with the Bush National Security Council.

Once the government agencies are given the information, they can open investigations with warrants to conduct further surveillance.


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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:16 PM
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1. No-one is telling Bush not to eavesdrop - just report it after 3 days
instead Bush wants no details to be made to nobody!!! that is definitly not cool. George says, just trust me? George's credibility these days is meaningless!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:19 PM
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2. Cunningham is making a very telling statement
if you are not a "terrarist target", but they happen to intercept your call, they can still use it with out a warrant!?!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:28 PM
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5. They're using martial law 'standards' instead of civil/Constitutional law.
Under a military occupation or within the military abroad, such 'standards' of evidence might fly -- there's no 'Mirandizing' under martial law. This is right at the heart of treating what's essentially a criminal act (9/11) and pretending it's "war." It's a fraud. There is no possibility of "surrender" or "truce" and both governments of nations we've invaded no longer exist. When a "war" cannot be "won" by surrender, truce, or the complete elimination of national governments, then we're seeing a global campaign of conquest, not a legitimate "war."
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:32 PM
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6. hopefully in the weeks to come, this will come front and center
and their unlawfulness will be revealed for all to see.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:20 PM
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3. without a warrant trumps all that BS
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 10:21 PM
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4. so this is aimed at reporters.
they got the script.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 11:04 PM
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7. The law would be very clear on this issue if Clinton were still Prez.
There'd be no doubt in anyone's mind that such spying is a dastardly, unconstitutional imminently impeachable offense. If it were ANY Democrat claiming what Bush is claiming, the wingnuts and the media would be howling for his/her head.

But because it's Bush, and because Republicans care more for their party than for their country, he'll probably get away with it.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 11:07 PM
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8. definitely a difference between us and them... we put our elected
officials (even Dems) accountable of their actions.
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