When Alito is Sworn In, Are we then a Fascist State?

[bpilgrim]

will we go down swinging :shrug:

peace

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. There's An Assumption In There That We Aren't Already.

[benburch]

2. We are already there.

Have been for some time.

Hate something hard enough and you become it.

[neoblues]

8. Oh Noooo....Then I must be becoming a republicoid...

Nah, not really. Though, granted, 'hate' is one of their defining characteristics. Perhaps what I hate is what they believe, how they act and what they do. Not much chance of becoming those things.

republicoid: after the suffix of hemorrhoid

[Warren Stupidity]

12. Keep kidding yourself.

They will maintain the charade of political parties and fair elections as long as they can, as long as they can keep convincing large numbers of people that nothing has changed.

[regnaD kciN]

16. Actually, they won't need to keep up the charade anymore...

...because what we will have become is not so much a "fascist state" as a "police state" -- where you, as a citizen, only have the "rights" the president decides you can have, and which can be granted or taken away at any time.

It really is the death of America as a democracy, or even a society based on the principles of the founding fathers.

[neoblues]

22. I shall explain.

Within the post to which I replied, "We are already there...", the 'signature/thought for the day' line was: "Hate something hard enough and you become it."

Ergo... if I hate something (ie. Republicans) then I must be becoming one.

To which I merely responded: "Oh nooo...", which was :sarcasm:

I didn't respond to the point regarding whether or not we are becoming or have already become a Fastist State... Or Police State, or Theocracy, or Corporate Oligarchy, or... to which we have indeed, to some degree, become all of the above and are progressing at various speeds further towards them--creating something new and highly unpleasant...

I kid you not.
;-)

[RoyGBiv]

3. Already are ...

He's just icing.

[Democrats_win]

4. By definition: Corporate government. Yes, we either are or will be.

[FightingIrish]

5. It's just a formality but Congress must first

officially cede all of its power to the excecutive branch.

[bpilgrim]

7. UNITARY Executive

everything HITLER did was 'legal', too... in FASCIST GERMANY


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peace

[MODemocrat]

15. I try so hard to keep my faith in God, and then I see this monster

in the name of George W. Bush, and I start questioning myself. At one time, I really admired the GOP, not enough to join the party, but I had respect for their policies. The old GOP is gone,because they have lowered their standards so much by aligning with this half-baked person some call their President. Power means everything to the ones who are voting to confirm Alito, we mean nothing.

I feel so sorry for the younger generation that it's hard to express myself. :argh: ;( ;(
Love my country; but hate Fascism.

[G_j]

6. already there n/t

[tnlefty]

9. I voted yes because he will be the last component to make it seem

legit. All of those pesky investigations, peons raising concerns and asking questions, lobbyists' scandals, etc. will disappear and a shiny, brand new untouchable dictator will emerge, unscathed!

[MODemocrat]

10. We've already seen signs of Fascism, Alito's confirmation seals it

I can't believe people are not seeing how Bush has sunk our country into the hole of hell. The worst part of it is, he is very unstable, and power means the world to him. Sadly he has so many enablers in the Republican party, and way too many in the Democratic Party. If I see my Senator has voted to confirm Alito, I'll work against him in every way I know how.
This is making me sadder than anything has in many years. Our poor country is no longer free.
:cry:

[Individualist]

20. Exactly

Alito's confirmation will give absolute power to the cabal. As bad as things have been, they'll pale in comparison with what is yet to come.

[Warren Stupidity]

11. Other: have been for quite a while.

Of course it is the kinder gentler fascism of the new century, not that posturing strutting fascism of the 30's. A more polished, more media savvy, better groomed fascism, a sort of trendy metrosexual fascism.

Two stolen national elections later, an attack of dubious origin used to justify all sorts of tyrannical bullshit, a war of aggression against a virtually defenseless nation, pronouncements from on high that the Imperial Executive is above both law and constitution, secret detention centers, torture and murder of detainees, vast domestic monitoring systems, and we are still debating 'is it fascism yet?'

It's yet now.

[regnaD kciN]

13. Although I voted yes...

...the swearing-in is really the beginning of the end of American democracy. That will come whenever the first case on abuse of presidential powers (whether it be on indefinite detention, warrantless surveillance, torture, or whatever) comes before the new Court, and they rule that the president has authority to do whatever seems best to him or her to "defend the country," with no possible judicial restraint or oversight.

But, with Alito, Scalia, Roberts, and Thomas on the court, and Kennedy inclined to side with the conservatives most of the time, that day is inevitable.

:-(

And "will we go down swinging?" Quite possibly...from the end of a rope.

[KalicoKitty]

14. Like Sen. Leahy said:

“Judge Alito failed the test whether he would serve to protect Americans' fundamental rights and liberties." - Senator Patrick Leahy

[bobthedrummer]

17. Voted "Other"-imo we are witnessing the growth of a new form of fascism

It's already here. It's not totalitarian-yet.

[Warren Stupidity]

19. exactly.

Neither was Germany for quite a few years. They like to slide into it ... always worried that the people will wake up and say 'what the fuck are you doing?'.

[Cleita]

18. Fer chrissakes we already are. One more fascist in the

nest doesn't change this. However, we are going all about this in the wrong way. It doesn't matter how they stack the deck, they have the important cards in their hands right now, the military.

These are the guys who are going to save us or ruin us. Rumsfeld took over the Pentagon early in the game and hardly a gun salvo was heard. However, it seems there is a lot of disenfranchised pissed off military out there who have been dumped.

I believe if these guys can convince the present military that the high command are a bunch of Nazi syncophants they can pull the military loyalty away with them.

[Flabbergasted]

21. These guys have been fascists there whole political carrer.

Plus there is not a truly solid right majority on the SCOTUS.