Bush Guts Posse Comitatus, Grabs National Guard!

[kpete]

HUGE! Bush Guts Posse Comitatus, Grabs National Guard!
by Major Danby
Wed Oct 18, 2006

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If I told you that Congress was considering passing a law that gives the President -- this President -- the power, in the event of any "disaster, accident, or catastrophe" that he deems to require it, to:

- involuntarily take National Guard troops from State A and
- require them to work in State B for up to a year,
- in law enforcement rather than just traditional areas like disaster relief,
- over the objection of both state's governors

would you believe it? Probably not. And you'd be right. Congress is not considering such a bill.

IT ALREADY PASSED SUCH A BILL THREE WEEKS AGO!


much more at:
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/10/18/211033/23

[merh]

1. fuck!

:cry:

[Imagevision]

13. Will Bush be able to handle a lame-duck status? or will he freakout?

this putz all his life doesn't understand the word NO, it's not in his vocabulary...

[NVMojo]

2. R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N IS AROUND THE BEND ...

[Zybelline]

3. not sure still southern fried families support him

see Financial Times interview today with family in Georgia that lost 19yr old son in Iraq the mother support Bush
as long as those conscripted are kind of from those red red neck areas they can get away with this for a while longer

[civildisoBDence]

40. Could you please repeat that in English

so us rednecks can understand it?

[cascadiance]

37. Amerika! Amerika!

[lonestarnot]

43. I think you are ssssssssssssssssssso right.

[screembloodymurder]

45. We had a revolution on 911.

What we're watching is our country being blackmailed by a radical minority operating within our own military. That group has the power to unleash nukes on major US cities and they've already proven that they will kill US citizens.

[Voltaire]

50. What we had was a COUP on 9-11

The Revolution to come will reverse it.

[Rex]

4. Abolishment of posse comitatus and habeas corpus - mission accomplished.

Bush brought back the divine right of kings! I'm watching as Americans just go along without understanding they JUST LOST their Bill of Rights! Hear that? Neither does anyone else. Military personal running law enforcement for the feudal, er federal system!

How fucked are we? Oh but George is just gonna give up power in 2009! To his brother. Prince Jeb.

[WCGreen]

24. But the DOW almost closed over 12000.....

[LonelyLRLiberal]

34. Notice how our dumbed-down education system is helping the BFEE?

They don't actually give a s--t about educating Americans, they want to make education QUIT teaching people to THINK.

[daleedwards]

39. fascism

And Bush accuses the arab states of fascism. Fascism is a
radical political ideology that combines elements of
corporatism, authoritarianism, nationalism, militarism,
anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism.

[williesgirl]

5. He'll make Hitler look like a saint when he's finished. recommended

[Marr]

6. If Clinton had done this, he'd have been lynched.

People who respect the law don't steal elections. And really, if you can just repeal habeas corpus, posse comitatus is nothing. Law has no meaning at all when the president can come on television and say essentially, 'yeah, I'm breaking the law with my domestic wiretaps- what ya gonna do about it?'.

This shit is only going to get worse- and fast.

[Cleita]

17. That could be a plan...

the lynching that is. Now I don't mean literally, but I do mean that we have to contain this guy by choking his power.

[tblue]

19. Okay, so this week I've read that the FBI is asking ISPs for user info,

* signed the detainee (ie. anybody he wants to detain and torture) dehumanization bill and the end of habeas corpus, KKKen Mehlman and KKKen Blackwell have quietly purged Democrats off of the voter rolls, and now you tell me posse comitatus is in the works. And it's only Wednesday!

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE Republicans can do to f-up the nation this week? Just pile it on, I"m getting used to living neck-deep in sh-t.

[Jack Rabbit]

35. If Clinton had done this, I would have help them.

Of course, impeachment and removal is a lot less messy.

[Marr]

41. I would've helped as well.

A totalitarian is a totalitarian, and they should be torn down- I don't care what party they're from.

[vanboggie]

7. WTF - it's all coming together

I always wondered if the Halliburton Happy Camps were being built to stymie the inevitable uprising when they steal the vote again. This time it will be way to obvious to hide.

Should we finally have the masses in the streets (like we should have done long ago) to demand clean elections and a new Congress, we're Enemy Combatants in the Chimperor's eyes and off we go without a trial to the happy camps.

Bastards. Don't put it past them.

[Cleita]

18. We have had the masses on the streets and they have

totally ignored them.

[cui bono]

30. Geebus. SERIOUSLY! This is fucking scary. The media will be the first

on that list of those who did nothing. I still can't believe they didn't give air time to this and the Absolve Bush of Warcrimes Act. They really should have explained it and had people like Turley on constantly to speak about the real ramifications of it.

I'm really scared right now. Seriously.

[vanboggie]

31. Yes it is, but I'm getting used to it

I've had the feeling of being watched since I was volunteer webmaster for an anti-Bush site near the beginning of this regime. After awhile you get used to it and get into "Bring it on" mode. Seriously, I've thought as far ahead as to decide I'm not leaving and they'll never take me alive - and I decided that long before all this crap came about.

Damn Nazi's.

Edited to add: Don't let them put the fear of BushCo in you. That's just what they want.

[status quo buster]

8. Wait a minute.....

What happened to states' rights and sovereignty???????

[woodsprite]

10. Screwed - Yup, that's what we are. n/t

[TahitiNut]

11. That's soooo ...

.... "pre-9/11."


Like the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions.

:crazy:

[never_get_over_it]

21. Actually states rights

is so pre Bush v. Gore.....

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. ...

:argh:

[Imagevision]

12. Bush loses house & senate, we may have a serious problem with this whacko

him and his; "not as long as I'm president bullsh*t seems to be effecting his already damaged coked out brain.

[madrchsod]

16. you my fellow inmate are correct

the only thing that can stop this is to tie him up in the courts

[Nothing Without Hope]

28. The courts? One more Bushie judge on the Supreme Court, and this

dictatorship will become "LEGAL" by a 5-4 vote.

[madrchsod]

14. the aryan nations members heads are spinning....

that is one of their great fears the gutting the posse comitatus act! what about the republican cornerstone-states rights?

[Cleita]

15. Oh crap!

I'm speechless!

[Gregorian]

20. So, can we call them Nazis YET?

It is horrifying to read the replies in the forums.

Tienanmen Square.
Nazi Germany.
Our own troops firing on us.

My avatar is becoming more meaningful by the day. Soon we'll all have to be tank man. A bigger version. One that can stand in front of this entire administration.

They've screwed themselves. I don't know how they think they can get away with it. The National Guard is not going to be happy about this.

[EC]

22. Oh shit, they're expecting Riots...

So any guesses? No elections in 08?

On edit: I guess we'll find out about those internment camps Halliburton was putting up...

[Nikki Stone 1]

29. Now about those camps...

What the hell is the story with them? They popped up in the 90s with the militia guys. They're back now?

[Name removed]

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[Syrinx]

25. K&R

I really can't believe what I'm witnessing in this country. Not ashamed to say I'm frightened.

[Marie26]

26. Bush also added a signing statement to that bill.

Because the bill, as written, apparantly just didn't give him enough power. I'm feeling a little sick. He signed the Defense Authorization bill this Tuesday, Oct. 16, and added a complex, detailed signing statement. I think someone should compare how the signing statment affects the sections that the OP is referring to - it may well give Bush even more control & power than we know. Briefly scanning it, the statement refers to the beloved "unitary executive" numerous times, and flat-out refuses to furnish information to Congress. This is getting scary.

Signing statement to the Defense Authorization Act of 2007: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061017-9.html

[Nothing Without Hope]

27. Next big step - another Bushie judge on the Supreme Court, to "legalize"

with no court of higher resort. It's never been more important to get majorities in both houses of Congress.

Other next big Bushie step - steal the 2006 elections to assure that they can get that next SCOTUS judge and pass more fascist legislation.

[a la izquierda]

32. Okay, I'm putting on the tinfoil hat here.

Has anyone ever heard of Milton William Cooper. He wrote a little book awhile back called Behold a Pale Horse. A lot of it is fantastical conspiracy theories, but he did talk about something eerily similar to this, but it deals with FEMA.
Freakish.
I'm getting more paranoid as the days go by.

Edit for more info: the book was published in 1991 and the section I'm talking about deals with H.R.4079

[Trailrider1951]

33. Yup, William Cooper wrote that book

when I read it about 8 years ago, I thought it was tinfoil city....now, maybe not.....btw, Cooper was killed by Arizona sheriffs while being served with a warrant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper

[cascadiance]

36. We need to start up state funded militias...

Need to get a prop for the next election here in California. And encourage people less to go in the National Guard, and more into the militia, who we'll not allow to be surrendered for federal use.

[Swamp Rat]

38. k&r

[lonestarnot]

42. Oh they slipped this by did they... rat bastards.

[buddysmellgood]

44. And I thought the posts about Halliburton building detention camps in the

US were kinda tin foil hatty. Now I'm scared.

[redacted]

46. Al Martin predicted this TWO YEARS AGO

on the Tony Trupiano Show. Many callers said at the time they thought it would never happen.

http://www.almartinraw.com/

[amandabeech]

47. Put it on the cleanup list, if it already isn't there.

Seriously, I hope that somebody is putting together a legislative cleanup list of bills that need amending or revoking so that when we get the chance, which we will, we can start returning federal legislation to the state it was before this gang of evil cheated their way into the White House.

[earth mom]

48. OMG!

This is scary...but can what can they do to millions of people...? Or will they use just a few people as examples...? :scared:

[leftchick]

49. China manages a few billion people

I suppose the US can handle a few hundred million. In addition we have the TV distraction.

:scared:

[earth mom]

54. We are so screwed.

:scared:

[Jose Diablo]

51. Kick

This deserves to be front and center.

How come with 48 votes, the story is not on the front page?

[sakabatou]

52. "Rove! We need more power!"

"I'm not sure if the People will handle it much more mein fuhrer!"

[earth mom]

53. What's going on here-doesn't any one give a damn or what?

This thread keeps sinking, I watched it happen last night and now it's no where to be found this morning! On Dkos where I rarely go, the original topic thread that started this thread has almost 500 replies whereas as this one only has about 10% of that amount here! :wtf:

Is this how democracy dies, not with a cry, not with a whimper, but with a whisper...?

[LSK]

55. what was that Republican ideology about States Rights???

Whoops, that is not a Republican in the White House!

[Marie26]

56. keep this kicked. nt

[Draill]

57. .

[Disturbed]

58. What is the real effect this could have upon people living

in the USA?

[rodeodance]

59. What can you do?

.........What can you do?

You can make noise.

No - you can make a LOT OF NOISE.

Write letters to the editor. Call your representatives in Congress and make them pledge to rescind these changes. Call the offices of Senator Harry Reid's and Rep. Nancy Pelosi.

This is an issue on which the most rock-ribbed conservatives, the most ardent populists, the staunchest libertarians, and the most committed liberals ought to be able to agree. Even non-Democrats are looking for any excuse now to reject Bush and his fawning supporters. This is as big and fat an excuse as one could want. Bush and his flying monkeys are politically weakened now. We can beat them.

We can't give this measure of power to the President. Power corrupts..........