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MellowOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:50 AM Original message |
Bush's first mention in the New York Times-11/07/1967 |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. Who could have foreseen that he wouldn't be a good president? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. That and the torturing frogs as a kid might have raised a few red flags. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. Goddamn...! That's freaky and scary. Torturing 40 years ago!! |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I keep saying we torture because some like it |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. The Resident's a Sadistic Pervert. So, whats' new? |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. An early foray into torture |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
31. Don't forget the frogs |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Bingo |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. I have a hard time believing the NYT would use "it's" for the possessive. |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Agreed. /nt |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. LOL. Nice catch. |
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MellowOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. A friend email the actual clip from the paper to me |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The fact is known - just the article is news to me |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. It happened. From an AP interview with Garry Trudeau. |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Thanks for the link. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Link to the 1967 NY Times article. |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. So we must presume that * has a scar like this somewhere? |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. interesting question |
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Phrogman (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
52. Yea, "D" for "Dunce"! |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
57. Its real, I just looked it up in the archives. n/t |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. could have been added in the transcription |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Yes, the original article spells "its" correctly. (link below) |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. This is real. The actual article is in PDF at the NY Times and |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. I can corroborate that. |
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Chico Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 08:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
73. Me too. Times Select sometimes comes in handy. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Very handy sometimes. |
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Fierce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Beat me to it. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Not just the use of "it's" for possessive. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Link to the NYT article |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Aha. It's been transcribed from the original, with errors. Interesting. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 12:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
63. Five times isn't it? |
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BrewAz (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. So it is the Frat House Administration.... |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. he blowed up frogs, too. they blowed up good....real good |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
13. Wow. He does have a high tolerance when it come to inflicting pain |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. I wonder f he had to endure the same treatment |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. This is why he should be forced to face an impeachment. |
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chat_noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
17. while searching for more info, I found... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
19. From Yale Daily News 1 Dec 05: |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. "Yale had to be so haughty not to allow this" |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. As frat president - what're the odds that GWB actually wielded the iron? |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
49. yea, thanks for the link |
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ArmchairMeme (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
21. Looks like he has enjoyed torturing at other times |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
23. That's a really creepy article. |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
25. K&R for sadism, enforced loyalty, rationalization - it's GWB in a nutshell |
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GreatCaesarsGhost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
26. no mention that his daddy was a congressman at the time |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
27. He tortures then he lies about it. |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
28. 'Branding iron' |
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SnowGoose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
39. Think of it as a comma in your university eduction. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
40. he hasn't changed a bit has he? |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
41. That, and much more in this article |
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MellowOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. blow up frogs... |
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Nostradammit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
42. Sooprise, sooprise! |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. --------- GREAT FIND -------- What an appropriate (inappropriate?) photo! |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I wonder if Condi has a big 'ol "GWB" branded across her ass? |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 07:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
69. Karen Hughes and Karl Rove? |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
46. Not surprising (of course) |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
48. The taste for torture starts early |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
51. He didn't know Abu Gonzales even back then either. |
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
53. The sweetest part of that article |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
54. K & R, where the f*** was this in 2000? "Just a cigarette burn" is the |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. And the Constitution is "just a piece of paper". |
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NightOwwl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
56. Vile, sadistic bastard. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
59. burned into a pledge's naked backside~~~~Doubled his fun! |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
60. Remember that time he |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
61. Only a little water boarding, or a little extra juice to the nuts. Just a |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-19-06 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
62. Just when I think I can't despise him any more, something new (or old) |
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Roxy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
64. Link Please...... |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 07:18 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. link here: |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
65. Do you have a link? |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 07:18 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. link here: |
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Blue Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
66. Bush... was the President of Delta House?? |
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lazyriver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
67. Frogs, branding people, proud of executing |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
68. George AWOL Bush = Torture pervert |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-20-06 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
72. Sounds like he was just warming up. This is just gruesome. |
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