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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:13 PM
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Judge Orders Cheney Visitor Logs Opened
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6158107,00.html

Judge Orders Cheney Visitor Logs Opened

Thursday October 19, 2006 6:01 PM


By MATT APUZZO

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - A federal judge has ordered the Bush administration to release information about who visited Vice President Dick Cheney's office and personal residence, an order that could spark a late election season debate over lobbyists' White House access.

The Washington Post asked for two years of White House visitor logs in June but the Secret Service refused to process the request. Government attorneys called it ``a fishing expedition into the most sensitive details of the vice presidency.''

U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina ruled Wednesday that, by the end of next week, the Secret Service must produce the records or at least identity them and justify why they are being withheld.

The newspaper sought logs for anyone visiting Cheney, his legal counsel, chief spokesman and other top aides and advisers.


..more..
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:15 PM
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1. This should be interesting
:popcorn:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 06:33 PM
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41. Hope you have a big bag of popcorn....
...because we live in a dictatorship now - Cheney doesn't have to turn over shit.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:16 PM
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2. Can this judge now be detained without habeas corpus as an
...enemy non-combatant?
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:18 PM
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10. probably send him to Siberia
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:23 PM
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20. Oh, even better it's going to all be...wait for it...
CLINTON'S FAULT!

Urbina, Ricardo M.
Born 1946 in New York, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court for the District of Columbia
Nominated by William J. Clinton on March 22, 1994, to a seat vacated by Aubrey E. Robinson, Jr.; Confirmed by the Senate on June 15, 1994, and received commission on June 16, 1994.

This is going to be headlined as a Liberal Activist Judge appointed by Clinton.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:16 PM
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3. Cheney to Judge....go fuck yourself.....
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:23 PM
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21. LOL More like "It's the big one! I'm comin, Elizabeth..."
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:43 PM
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40. Log Contents from Cheney
Go F Yourself visit 10/1/2003 12:30 PM
Kiss My Ass visited 10/1/2003 4:10 PM
Judges Suck visited 10/2/2003 9:30 AM
Ima Above TheLaw visited 10/2/2003 12:22 PM
...
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:16 PM
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4. Oh good!
Pass the popcorn please.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:17 PM
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5. must be alot of shredding going on right now?
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:43 PM
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34. that's what I was thinking...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:17 PM
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6. Have Cheney's lawyers filed for an injunction yet?
how great would this be if we actually get to see the logs in the next week or so?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:17 PM
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7. Just in time for cooler weather...indoor entertainment!
:popcorn:

Anyone want butter?
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:17 PM
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8. I'm sure those were destroyed long ago
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:18 PM
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will this end up with the supreme court?
:shrug:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:22 PM
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16. While it's not direct precedent, the Supreme Court...
While it's not direct precedent, the Supreme Court set
themselves up to be on the wrong side of this issue (now)
when they allowed Paula Jones' lawsuit to go forward
against then-President Clinton.

It was a mistake to allow that one to go forward but
that will probably come back and bite the neocon's
butts eventually.

Tesha
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:25 PM
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24. You think THIS court gives a shit about stare decisis?
If anything, this court's more neo-conservative and authoritarian than the one that handed Shrubya the presidency.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:37 PM
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30. Neocons have no conscience and very short memories on their own flaws
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:18 PM
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9. "...the most sensitive details of the vice presidency.''
Give me a fugging break. :eyes:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:19 PM
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11. Norquist & Reed landed more than 100 meetings in the WH
as stated in the article:

A lawsuit over similar records revealed last month that Republican activists Grover Norquist and Ralph Reed - key figures in the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal - landed more than 100 meetings inside the Bush White House.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:19 PM
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12. I need to stock up on popcorn quick!
This is going to be a long one.

:popcorn:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:25 PM
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26. Extra butter please
:popcorn: :popcorn: :rofl:
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:19 PM
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13. Yeah, like the logs won't be altered, doctored or missing. Good
luck on that one WP.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:21 PM
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14. So we still have a semblance of a democracy
Until the Supreme Court rules.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:21 PM
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15. Exxon Haliburton BP Amoco Carlyle KR Phizar Merck Monsanto
all the Corporations who have benefited from Iraq War...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:22 PM
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17. These will never see the light of day BEFORE the election.
the Secret Service must produce the records or at least identity them and justify why they are being withheld.

They will give excuses for why they are being witheld and this will eventually end up at the SCOTUS where they will rule in favor of the slime ball.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:24 PM
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23. yup
at least I agree that we won't see them before the election.

But I sure hope your second prediction proves wrong.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:30 PM
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29. In the meantime they'll attack the Judge as a Liberal Clinton appointee
and deem it a political stunt by Democrats/Democratic operatives. The aim to focus on the Judge ("It's all Clinton's fault!") and aways from Cheney ("Poor guy just can't get a break").

Rush and O'Reilly will be on top it by the end of lunch.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:22 PM
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18. What's the BFD?
"the most sensitive details of the vice presidency" What the fuck does that mean? Oh yeah, Sorry, brain fart, I forgot - This administration has done everything in secret....you know, wouldn't be wanting the peasants knowing too much about how this "complicated" government works. :sarcasm:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:22 PM
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19. Does Beeblebub leave a signature? Imagine what THAT would get
on Ebay.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:28 PM
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27. You mean Beelzebub? :)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:47 PM
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36. Yeah, or Babalou, the Deevil, My Ma, whatever...once left a message
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 02:50 PM by elehhhhna
on a friends' desk telling her to call a "Mr. B. L. Zubub --URGENT--at Second Baptist Church" in Houston. lol
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:24 PM
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22. The records will released in 2020 (over his dead body)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:51 PM
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37. IIRC Cheney cacked in 1998. And 2000, & maybe 2002.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:25 PM
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25. RAID on Cheney's logs: Osama checks in , but he don't check out, or....
..and they were pissed about Clinton letting pals stay in the Lincoln Bedroom?!!! ROFLMAO!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:28 PM
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28. "or...justify why they are being withheld."
"Because I'm the Vice President, and it's imperative that my advisors retain their anonymity." It's worked for years; it'll continue to work. QED.

We won't get anything substantial for years. The Bushies will find a way to lock this info away from We The People forever.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:39 PM
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31. bingo
this will drag on until he's out of office
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:40 PM
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32. This if from The Guardian in England. Any U.S. news on this???
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 12:45 PM by spanone
How odd that we have to get our 'local' news from overseas.

NOTHING on the 'major' news outlets. Here's a local Seattle story on it.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1151AP_White_House_Logs.html

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:43 PM
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33. Hmmm, who's this O.B. Ladden from Baker Botts?
He seems to show up quite regularly.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 10:34 AM
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42. ROFL
:rofl:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:03 PM
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35. About time!
Do we get to finally learn who was in the Energy meetings?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:54 PM
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38. This will drag out until '09 and then dropped.
There is no way that this info will be handed over.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:00 AM
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43. you mean Enron etc..?
of course not :argh:
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:58 PM
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39. When we have an open and transparent government,
the terrorists win.

:sarcasm:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:34 AM
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44. Cheney's answer
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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