Radicalizing myself...

[undergroundpanther]

Radicalizing myself..

Why are these elitists scared of "disaffected" people radicalizing themselves?

Well lets look at this..

First What does it mean to be "disaffected?

One web definition of disaffected is this:
* S: (adj) disaffected, ill-affected, malcontent, rebellious (discontented as toward authority)
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=disaffected
Another, THIS..
A person who is alienated or estranged from those in authority or lacks loyalty to the government; a state of mind.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disaffected+person.

Basically it means a person who's"disaffected" cannot cope with being dominated by these authoritarian personalities. Be they in the white house or in YOUR house. The elitists are having a paranoid temper-tantrum,they fear we will stop serving them playing by their rules,doing everything we do as THEY want it done.

They are terrified of losing.


So? what is the best way to keep people tame,non threatening and obedient, enthralled to the Empty sound of authority and fearing it's stolen power?

One way is to forbid the people 'disaffected' expression and commiseration about their own disaffection twords the authoritarians oppressing them. Keep the truth about abuse bigotry and war unconscious. Silence the will to be free of abuse inside the people ,forbid solidarity, limit human networks, shred the social safety net,and stop the spread of human empathy, make people afraid to share,sever kin ties,interfere with friendship and social support networks of like minded individuals gathering together to support one another. Lest we become strong and clear enough to see through the lies and realize we working together as equals can make a better life for Ourselves by ourselves, than what toiling within this "empire" and it's rules and mindgames can do for us.This loss of faith a state of mind,awakening,is what the Pentagon truly dreads, The people waking up,saying WTF am I doing THIS for? and abandoning their wonderful divine order..and making their own way.. without the 'authorization' of the empire..

The authorities seek to control discussions and interfere with debate,and the enlightened thinking of what it would be like WITHOUT a ruler or a system of top down "ordered liberties". The authoritarians Dominate the airwaves,shut down the web,threaten, commercialize and privatize every open space,so that people can never gather together long enough to develop trust or familiarity with each other,in all their diversity can begin to actually see their own lives of quiet desperation in each others experinces day to day, and realize it is NOT all their own making,and NOT all their own faults and stop blaming themselves and beating themselves or each other up for not being "Good Germans"..

When they understand whom and what the parasitic social systems of "authority" power and corruption are exactly and how they impact their lives overtly and covertly , people denied a right to be who they are will become un enchanted..or disaffected,with authority,and soon after that they realize belief in THAT LIE called "authority" IS what makes their lives so hard,pointless,deprived,and painful. Hierarchical domination, goes against nature which is in fact democratic.And it hurts us to force ourselves to pretend we are something we are not.

After that thought arrives people may begin to act on it,begin to ask themsself WHY do I listen to it,believe in it and pretend the authority figure helps me or cares about me when so obviously the market and the 'divine order' does not care it just wants to use,control, dominate and exploit me?

Conservatism,and corporatism,not just Neocon-ism has a very dark authoritarian heart.
http://www.unknownnews.org/060502a-Panther.html

These sorts of "conservative"delusional belief systems are walls against change for a reason,..And they are crazy-making for those not in the "top positions" for the same reason the authoritarians want us to believe in it... For those on top in a 'conservative' culture,life is good, easy,and seems so simple and richly rewarding.The world is their oyster alone,precisely because they through clever use of beliefs,are robbing us of all our pearls, inside us.

These elites Want us to believe in their silly divine orderfunny they always put themselves on top,not some poor guy,or gay person,or diabled person, it's always the same bully face on this empires authority, it's one way how the corrupt justify their decadent lives, to us and themselves..

And the lie they tell us from cradle to grave is all about how top down hierarchical order always was,and will be forever and it will be in their control. They teach this lie to generations for self interest, for they DO NOT want to struggle,fight,argue negotiate ,feel deprived,stressed and live on a budget suffer and die and have thier'beautiful minds sullied with ugly reality they are not gods of everything,They don't wanna live like the rest of us are forced to do.
They think they are better,and as long as we believe they are and treat them as such they'll keep on feeding us lies that kill us.

The authoritarian/narcissistic/psychopath personalities among us know they got a good scam going,on all us tender hearted dupes and they are LOATHE to step off of the BOX.And Give up CONTROL.And share the wealth.Wealth they stole and NEVER had a right to take from all of us.

The Earth is full of whatever we need,It always has been if we take care of it and don't befoul our own nest. Right now a control freak,bully sits atop the Earth. Long ago this manipulating bully thug hired armed guards to keep anyone from stealing his booty. The many people who are without things from this Earth they need will die. But they do not die of deprivation. They die of a belief. Everyone believes that the people atop the Earth who run the society, the corporation, the government, the household owns all the stuff. The soldiers believe it, and they will kill to protect this illusion. The others believe it enough that they are willing to die for this belief. But the truth is that there is a ravaged Earth,plenty of stuff there are people making up rules and systems sitting atop it all, there are guns, and there are alot of suffering people.(mutated from Derrick Jensen's Original Parable of the Box)

http://ranprieur.com/readings/jensenbox.html

So what do they do now as they detect the discontent in the people they think are losing their "religion" the belief system they use to keep themselves well fed in luxury and security? They call us who see through the belief,degenerates who are less quality people,less deserving, less that human to themselves, they fear us call us radicals because we don't Play the authoritarians self serving game of make believe..

What do these morally depraved elites do about the disaffected frustration in the people they exploit that is directly caused by their own greed and desire to control and dominate the world and possess all the stuff they stole? They forcibly try to close the MINDS of the people,first.So their beliefs are not challenged and the game of make believe is not broken and the enchantment of the lie is never spoken where many can hear it and bite their masters hands. If that counter propaganda and social scapegoating game does not work they will intrude into our lives to supervise and enforce the belief as if it was true even though we know it's a lie.., than if the threat of authority intrusion fails, the authoritarians traumatize them like bullies, they really are.. Funny how all the people who prefer to make believe and play the game of authority SHARE that same kind of moral inferiority, the defect of authoritarian,narcissistic or psychopathic personality. These degenerates will find an almost visceral affinity with an authoritarian figure, they may obey him,and the systems authority makes. The petty tyrant,like the master tyrant likes to subjugate others for all tyrants like to keep their minds in a simple static frozen world,rather than face cognitive dissonance, because ultimately they are pathetic psychological and intellectual cowards ,who fear change because they fear losing control of what they never had but so strongly want to believe they possess... and have this privilege to destroy, consume and crush to prop their hungry ghost like egos upon...



Slowly over decades the corporate authoritarian psychopaths,in this country,they always gravitate to positions of power, they under the guise of good intentions,democracy,etc. have done alot to make the people of America feel they have become ,and actually become DEPENDANT upon various experts,authority figures and the systems for their own survival ..as if the authority was anything but a simple greedy person with a huge ego proselytizing a self serving belief system, who is no more superior of a person to you or I or a garden slug..

Seeing through this belief of our"leaders" that is killing us of course leads to more disaffection and"self radicalization" people who want to be free,want to learn and be full actualized human beings ask themselves WHY Can't I do that too ? Why Can't I be who I wanna be? Why Can't I live my life MY way,I ain't hurting anyone,Why can't I say my thoughts, or make MY dreams come to fruition too,WHY is it only the elitist authoritarian THIEVES are who get the biggest part of the Earth's and civilizations bounty to waste on themselves? Who made THEM gods..Why don't they SHARE they have plenty,why are they hoarding, don't they see I am suffering? Than it dawns on you they DO NOT care.. And we ask ourselves how did this happen?

And the real truth is is WE , personally and impersonally,as individuals And as a mass helped it happen because we BELIEVED! We denied our own suffering and we chose to BELIEVE..Little Eichmann's everyone of us. When we went along, we failed to admit even to ourselves,the system we live in is corrupted,wrong,destructive,anti humane, it's robbing us of our self actualization,our freedom to be, our happiness,our human dignity, our connections to others, our skills to survive,and defend ourselves from abusers,They've taken our very identities and replaced it with a belief system that serves not us,but THEIR authority game!..While we want so desperately to pretend all people are good inside and can be changed.. reality says this is not so,
As history repeats itself because we do not want to identify the beliefs and the belief makers, and destroy the authoritarian personalities whom are abusing us,and killing this planet..we don't want to think the whole frickin way we live is a big game,and all authority is an empty noise..]


When we let them sit on "the throne of the Earth" ,When we became willing to DO as they told us to DO,and not ask why should I,as they were permitted to distribute what was always ours back to us at a cost,which is called'profit'.. We sold away our sacred person hood to a bully,an Empire,for a little food, a little security. We enslaved ourselves to a bully and his enablers..The day we went along with the belief that some people could be bigger than ourselves,had privileged status over us,were better than us, was the day of enslavement for all of humanity..,when ownership of parts of this planet we all must share was divided up by who could or could not afford the price the 'lord' was demanding, and we buckled under to the lies being enforced by the enablers of the hierarchy system and the rulers rules by inflicting traumas,imprisonment,war and death ,upon those who are 'disaffected to the point they do not trust, and have no love for a king or his kingdom,no love for an authoritarian and his lie...So we lost our freedom to authority and Empire and our birthright as co sharers of all the bounty of this Earth and our civilization..to the Market..And we suffer.

Today whether we realize it or not authoritarians,have an astonishing amount of control what we eat,wear,say,think,do,how we spend our time,who we can love,what we can create ,where we can live,and they make up all the regulations and social mores be they destructive to us or not.And we obey that shit because we believe it is real.

Only when the curtain draws thin,and the greedy take too much,and the bullies become scared of losing their positions and perks,and the veil between the classes is shopworn do we begin to see Empire it was all a scam,and the disaffection for authority,is broken for the trust has been exploited too much and we are made to be in too much pain stress and the social contract of mutual support is reneged upon too much to unevenly and inequality becomes clear..we for millennia have been coerced bullied, victimized,used up, and had by greedy,selfish,charismatic shallow,parasitic predatory people with no consciences, huge egos ,decadent fantasies,and a dread fear of true democracy..There will always be wannabe kings and as long as there are wannabe kings that get a throne and an ear to make an obedient believer or at least a moderate who will not oppose the unjust ordered liberty of conservatism, out of a human being,the poor and the crazy-making stress of this way of life will always be with us.

Ok did I scare any self serving greedy authoritarian lying assholes out there yet? *smirk* Yeah You,mr Big shot, you are nothing,but a parasite,paranoid,psychopath wannabe human being, For without the people you subjugate and exploit day after day, and who you profit from, who go believing in your systems, I know you would implode in fear if you actually had to live under your own oppression,inflicted upon you by the disaffected you exploited,wounded and lied to,.And that payback is what scares you the most about when people fall out of love with authority isn't it? So,authoritarians,Get your paranoid gredy thief asses off of that liar's throne,take off that crown of shit,you pathetic bully, I have no want of any of your shit by decree,or your empire mentality, your'ordered liberties' your 'divine order' or grabbing games of I pissed here so I own That..I do not believe in your power over me, for I am indeed a king, And I am your equal in every way..,and what I rule is myself, with my conscience I reign over me , for my inner locus of control, my mind,my body,my own choice is mine alone to own..I rule My own Self,in total soverignity that will not be usurped,by a liar,..The Self, is the only kingdom ANY of us can rightfully rule so absolutely , in a real Democracy.

[pat_k]

1. When the insiders pushed out Hackett, had a lively discussion. . .

. . .on the forces at work (insider v. outsider, bottom-up v. top-down)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2463516">Derailing Hackett -- This is NOT about some Left v. Centrist divide

[undergroundpanther]

2. It's about

People who have the authoritarian,psychopathic or narcissism personality type VS the rest of us who don't have it, and the people among us who don't who don't want to keep on playing along with thier little destructinve social games and self serving belief systems anymore.
That is what it's about.

The tyrant among us is about to be abandoned and lose control over everything he has tried to steal,enslave,destroy,and there are people wanting to be treated as human beings,who want to be who they are,who want to rule themselves and who have had enough of petty tyrannies and refuse to make believe about it anymore..
That is what this is about,It has always been a war over hearts and minds and which kinds of BELIEFS reside within it.

[Vincardog]

3. Well UGP tell us how your REALLY feel. don't hold back

[undergroundpanther]

4. I wish I could

reliably detect,isolate than systematically just destroy every Authoritarian/sociopath/narcissistic no conscience whatsoever,bully personality in a human suit that exists on Earth.
No need to be like them and torture,just kill them quickly and as painless as possible, remove all these fucking scumbags who refuse to be fair, who have this overweening ambition and greed,who refuse to care,refuse to negotiate,don't care if others suffer for what they do, who cannot be trusted,cannot be cured or helped,won't stop their abuses of power,cannot and will not peacefully co exist around others without dominating ,raping,scamming,exploiting verbally abusing,or just abusing them, the fuckers who think they are so above us all,arrogant ass-wipes who think they can do no wrong,hyper confident,incompetent hubris ridden con man tyrants who tear everything they touch down and everyone who is around them apart.. I'd LOVE to wipe out their entire personality type from ever existing on this Earth again, forever..I HATE them.
Can't live around these types of personalities without being hurt,and they will not leave non bully people alone.

But I also know it's hard to ever really DO something like that,without having a proven way to protect innocents (that the sociopaths cannot infiltrate into) to protect people who are not psychopaths who are just defended but Do have a conscience still and can empathize,they might be very wounded or confused. I don't want them caught up in this....And due to the chameleon quality of these asshole personality types, it would be an impossible dream to kill them off without getting innocent blood split.So That's a fantasy..

But sometimes I think that is the ONLY way we will see peace that lasts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/13BABO.html?ex=1397188800&en=36f651ea236a423d&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND

[Vincardog]

5. I think the only way to get the reptiles out of government is to

remove the power of money from the electoral process. When we regain control and return to the rule of law, we have to investigate indict and imprison every one of the vile sub-human vermin that have infected our government.

WE have to recognize the ICC and turn them over to be tried for crimes against humanity.

We also have to demand the elections be financed publicly.
WE have to demand the lie of "Corporate Person-hood" be loudly and clearly renounced.

WE need to rid our government of the self serving psychopaths that have perverted it.

WE also have to demand open fair transparent elections.

Then we can get on with Full employment a LIVING WAGE
Respect and protecting the Environment,
GEtting the Government out of our private medical and sexual lives.
Equal rights for all.
Reinstate the fairness doctrine.
Re-regulate the broadcast media.
and generally return to a civilized path don't ya know.

[Lilith Velkor]

6. Money only has power because people believe in it.

A truly civilized path involves getting over the belief that human beings should be valued according to how many Shiny Things they have.