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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:31 PM
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Will John Kerry, yet again, hold on to his millions, that we gave him, whi
Will John Kerry, yet again, hold on to his millions, that we gave him, while Democrats lose?
by John in DC - 10/19/2006 01:44:00 PM


From HeyJohn.org:
In 2004, over 171,154 Americans donated $328,479,245 and countless hours of time to help John Kerry get elected President. Now, two years later, Democrats have a real opportunity to regain a majority in both chambers of Congress.

John Kerry? He’s still hanging on to $8,352,685 of our money, while Democratic candidates in competitive districts are short on funds, and the DNC, DCCC, and DSCC are out of money.

Tell John Kerry to “let our money go” and help take back Congress by sending an email to info@johnkerry.com
From Hotline via TPM.

And John Kerry isn't the only problem. Evan Bayh, who also will likely be courting all of your votes and your money when he runs for president in 2008, and then there are the 45 House Democrats who are running for re-election in uncontested races. They have NO Republican opponents, yet are sitting on $26 million. You can find the list of 45 here.

$26 million.

Why the hell aren't they ponying up?

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/10/will-john-kerry-yet-again-hold-on-to.html
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:32 PM
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1. Ummm... this is bullshit
and you should know that.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:32 PM
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2. I suppose they want to run for President
And think that money might come in handy down the road?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:33 PM
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3. He can keep my donations.
I agree that some should pony up, but if Kerry is still interested in running for president, he's going to need every penny.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:33 PM
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4. A fact check would have obviated the need for this piece.
Why is it posted here? Just curious.

I consider it a slam job.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:13 PM
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21. Are you any good at finding out who owns domains??
It would be interesting to see who started this, why Hotline picked it up, then TPM, then AMERICABLOG...it seems a bit "manufactured" to me. The blog is spanking new, and looks a bit "unreal."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:25 PM
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24. Folks I know are. I'm not. But I agree with your hunch on this one.
The source is VERY suspicious.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:34 PM
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5. Here we go again.
:eyes:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:34 PM
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6. So, an anonymous blog - Who is behind that!
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 03:36 PM by Mass
This said, this ignores the effort Kerry has made to raise money for Democrats.

John at Americablog has a pb with Kerry. It is too bad that he fell for an attack from another potential 08 candidate (or worse, the SBVT, who can say as it is anonymous).

To his honor, he understands the problem is not Kerry, but a lot of Democrats who are holding to their money, many of them without putting the type of efforts Kerry is!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:39 PM
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9. He's not anonymous, but he has an interesting history
He worked for Madeleine Albright, and he also worked for Ted "Tubes" Stevens...and he's gay.

He might be angry with Kerry on his mixed message with regard to marriage rights; succinct summation here: http://kipesquire.powerblogs.com/posts/1092250237.shtml

But I don't really know, I read his website occasionally, but haven't noticed any Kerry vendetta...perhaps I just missed it.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:47 PM
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11. Not John, whoever started the story. It is not AMericaBlog who started
that!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:55 PM
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13. Yep....I sorted that out and had a look at the blog (see my post below)
This looks like disinformation and astroturf. Might not be a bad idea to visit the site and tell the guy to fuck off. I did...but I'll bet the comment won't be posted!!!
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:35 PM
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7. This is a crock of bullshit!
http://www.johnkerry.com/themost/

“Give me five more John Kerry’s,” says Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.). “He’s a fighter, and he puts his money where his mouth is.” – Roll Call, 5.1.06

11 million dollars. Over 200 candidates in more than 40 states. That’s how much, together, the johnkerry.com community and John Kerry have given to or raised for Democratic candidates and committees since November 2004. John Kerry is aggressively fundraising for Democratic candidates in 2006 – making direct contributions to campaigns, attending and hosting events in the states, emailing his 3 million person list of supporters on behalf of candidates, and raising money for state parties, the DNC, DSCC and DCCC.

"He also won plaudits for working on behalf of House candidates. `The question is was somebody willing to stand up back in the dark days when I needed help, and he was,' said US Representative Rahm Emanuel, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee."
-- Boston Globe, Brian Mooney, 10/9/06

Kerry has personally traveled to 24 states to appear with candidates and rally support at the grassroots. Kerry has made over 85 trips across the country to support Democratic candidates this cycle.

Kerry gave $1 million to the Democratic National Committee and raised an additional $250,000 for the DNC online. Kerry also gave $1 million to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and $500,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Kerry contributed $50,000 to the Louisiana State Party and gave $250,000 to the Washington State Democratic Party which helped finance a recount when the Republican party challenged the win of Gov. Christine Gregoire in 2005.

With the help of the johnkerry.com community, together we have raised over 100K each for 11 candidates, including Cantwell, Bill Nelson, Byrd, Sherrod Brown, Ford, McCaskill, Klobuchar, Webb, Duckworth, Patrick Murphy and Joe Sestak.

"Kerry has a big electronic address book and he hasn't been shy about using it…it's also bringing in quite a bit of money for Democrats nationwide…he has given or raised nearly $10 million for Democratic candidates and committees since November 2004." - Washington Post, "Kerry Treasury Department," 7.2.06

Getting veteran candidates elected to key seats is a top priority for John Kerry in 2006. He has actively supported over a dozen veteran candidates, including Jim Webb, Tammy Duckworth, and Chris Carney. "The Winners: John Kerry: Kerry not only endorsed Webb but appeared with him Monday for a last-minute campaign rally. Kerry also used his national e-mail list to raise cash and turn out the vote."- Washingtonpost.com, The Fix, "VA Senate Winners and Losers," 6.14.06

Additionally, in 2005-06, John Kerry contributed or raised over $175,200 on behalf of the Massachusetts Democratic party, He has used his email list to recruit over 500 volunteers to support the state’s efforts to elect Democrats in November. In the last two months before the election, he will attend 5 events in support of Deval Patrick, the Democratic nominee for Governor, and the Democratic ticket.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:38 PM
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8. Almost every day John Kerry is campaigning w a Dem Candidate in '06
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 03:44 PM by emulatorloo
and sending out mailings to help, as well as working on that patriot project.

Why don't you check on how much money Kerry is spending on Dems running in critical races in 2006. And on the patriot project, etc etc. Kerry is doing plenty to help support Dems running in '06.

I call bs on this nonsense. See:

Kerry has raised and donated over $11 million to candidates
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2893836&mesg_id=2893849
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:46 PM
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10. Is there ANYONE RAISED AND DISTRITUED MORE TO THE RACES THAN KERRY?

I don't know. Kerry has solicited and distributed over $11 mill to congressional races.
Is there any single individual doing more?

If not, this is a very strange post.

I guess the question is what funds were contributed for Kerry's own campaign vs contributed
for dem win generally.

Maybe all the candidates should agree to distribute an additional 50% of their coffers and that would
be fair.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:53 PM
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12. The original source is http://www.heyjohn.org/
And it is a site with almost NOTHING ON IT...a few posts, and that's IT.

I smell a rat, or should I say, an elephant, and left this comment, which is "awaiting moderation"--

I get the feeling that you are full of crap, to be honest. I’m thinking you’re some sleazyass way-down-the-foodchain Rovian tool trying to stir up the Democratic ranks. Your sudden “deep CONCERN” over this issue smells like…well, horse shit!!!

Why do I suspect it won't ever be posted?

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:04 PM
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15. can somebody do some research on this site/domain name? I don't know
enough to know how, but there is an easy way to find out who registered it and owns it.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:07 PM
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16. I am no good at that either, hopefully someone can track it down NT
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:09 PM
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19. I did it -- VERY SUSPICIOUS
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 04:13 PM by emulatorloo
I did a whois search, which sent me to godaddy for complete info. . .

typically you have to have a real name and contact info -- Check out the 000000000 phone number

Here's what godaddy had:

http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=HEYJOHNKERRY.COM&prog_id=godaddy

<snip>

Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
in the "registrant" field. In most cases, GoDaddy.com, Inc.
is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.


Registrant:
Hey John Kerry
4224 37th St. NW
Washington, District of Columbia 20008
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: HEYJOHNKERRY.COM
Created on: 18-Oct-06
Expires on: 18-Oct-07
Last Updated on:

Administrative Contact:
Kerry, Hey John heyjohnkerry@gmail.com
4224 37th St. NW
Washington, District of Columbia 20008
United States
(000) 000-0000

Technical Contact:
Kerry, Hey John heyjohnkerry@gmail.com
4224 37th St. NW
Washington, District of Columbia 20008
United States
(000) 000-0000

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.DREAMHOST.COM
NS2.DREAMHOST.COM
NS3.DREAMHOST.COM


Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:22 PM
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22. Someone who is ashamed to say, or who is playing for the other team
Well, when we know that the bullshit is coming from the sewer, we can all move along, now can't we? Because, clearly, there IS nothing to see here!

Might be amusing to visit the site and call them out on it, eh?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:10 PM
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20. Information from networksolutions.com:

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Domain ID:D131028533-LROR
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:29 PM
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25. contact phone = 1 (000) 000-0000
makes you wonder, doesn't it. . .
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:40 PM
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28. Makes you realize they are flopsweat desperate and will do ANYTHING to try
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 04:40 PM by MADem
to DIVIDE, SUPRESS the voter count, and DISENFRANCHISE.

Just be alert for it!!!

Edited to correct poor spelling!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:59 PM
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14. So Disappointing To See This Ignorant Crap Posted Here.
Do me a favor; Try and do some fact checking first when dealing with provocative articles, prior to posting their crap.

Thanks. :hi:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:09 PM
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17. With all the repukes out there why are you picking on a man who
is campaigning tirelessly for Democrats in this election and has made many donations from his political action committee and has been consistenly tough on Bush?

p.s.
I didn't favor Kerry for the Democratic nomination in '04 and probably won't for '08 either, but I think he has been doing a hell of a job.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 05:14 PM
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33. The original poster isn't doing that, though--he's just noting that
a brand new blog, created YESTERDAY, ended up on HOTLINE today, and was noted at TPM and AMERICABLOG. Spreading like astroturf, that! How amazing!!!

Then, if you read on in this thread, you learn that the source of this blog is curiously ANONYMOUS!!!

Smelling elephant shit yet, are ya???

Do your part--leave a NOTE at the website calling them out (I did!): http://heyjohn.org/
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:09 PM
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18. Stupid bullshit
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 04:10 PM by WilliamPitt
easily refuted by 0.000000005 seconds on Google:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/02/10/kerry_donates_1m_to_democrats/

Kerry donates $1m to Democrats
Designates funds to bolster party at state, local levels
By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | February 10, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Senator John F. Kerry yesterday gave $1 million in campaign funds to the Democratic National Committee's grass-roots organizing campaign, and is asking his network of political supporters to build on his donation to help Democrats compete at the state and local levels.

Kerry is earmarking the money for grants that will go to state-level organizations, so state parties can hire permanent staffs that will help in legislative and congressional races this year and next.

In an e-mail message to 3 million of his supporters, Kerry said the money would help the party take a "dramatic step" that will make it easier to compete with Republicans across the country.

"The Democratic Party should have powerful and nimble organizations in every single county and precinct," Kerry wrote. "There's only one way to win -- we've got to compete everywhere, all the time. Our party should be a constant positive presence in every American community, and we can be if we tap into the grass-roots energy of volunteers."

The donation leaves Kerry with about $10 million in his campaign fund, which he can tap for a possible presidential run in 2008.

Some Democrats expressed disappointment that Kerry finished the campaign with $16 million in one of his campaign accounts, and Kerry has sought to mend fences by making sizable donations to state parties and national campaign committees, including a $1 million donation to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

=====

Kerry's campaign fund still holds some unspent money that he raised in running for the 2004 Democratic nomination, because he was not allowed to spend it in the general election. In mid-October, 2004, this sum was about $45 million.

He donated most of that to the Democratic National Committee and to state Democratic parties, but he has at least $15 million left, which could be used directly for another presidential campaign, or indirectly to build his stature within the party by helping other Democratic candidates.

***$45 million to start, $15 million left, means Kerry spent $30 million helping Democrats***

Some criticism was leveled at Kerry for not using the remaining funds for Democratic campaigns in 2004. He has also established a separate political action committee, Keeping America's Promise, that can raise money and channel contributions to Democratic candidates in state and federal races.

Through Keeping America's Promise in 2005, Kerry raised over $5.5 million for other Democrats up and down the ballot. Through his campaign account and his political action committee, Keeping America's Promise, Kerry has donated a total of $700,000 to 80 candidates and $5.3 million for dozens of Democratic candidates, state parties and charitable causes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_kerry
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:24 PM
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23. You obviously didn't read this
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:31 PM
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26. How much of that is left over from his senatorial fund?
As I remember it, his campaign is still in debt, not in positive numbers.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:37 PM
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27. holy shit...
DU is rabid. Man, I hope it's not contagious..
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. No, they just realized something stunk. Look at the DOMAIN registration
It's a hit site by a slash and burn, cut and run COWARD.

No name, no real address, no phone. Put up just yesterday.

I mean, come ON...do the math. It's not clear to you? Bullshit plus flopsweat equals GOP.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. I must not have been clear...
as I was referring to the Kerry-bashing zeal...which oridnarily is pretty ugly...without any incentive. Throw a bone with the scent of meat, and the pack does seem rabid...to me. I surely hope I refrain from such human behavior regardless of the target...it's perplexing and disturbing.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. It seems to me that most of the responses here are rabidly PRO Kerry
or simply "WTF?" I don't see a lot of "YEAH, make the bum cough up the cash" posts.

The "This is BULLSHIT" posts, if you read them, are saying that the maligning and impugning of the Senator is bullshit.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 05:06 PM
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32. aahhhh....my bad...
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 05:09 PM by stillcool47
there have been several...I'm sure you've seen...and I was replying to the OP in fast fingered frustration.. thanks for straightening me out!
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