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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:37 PM
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John McCain: Gays are Welcome to Marry, Just Not Legally
McCain on Hardball with Chris Matthews:

"I think gay marriage should be allowed if there's a ceremony kind of thing if you want to call it that. I don't have any problem with that..."

Before your jaw drops too far, McCain went on to say "I think private ceremonies are fine. I do not think gay marriage should be legal."

http://www.towleroad.com/2006/10/john_mccain_gay.html
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:38 PM
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1. I guess he was for them, before he was against them. n/t
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photogirl12 Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:38 PM
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2. For him I think that thinking should be allowed
Just not legal.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:39 PM
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3. I really, really dislike this man...what I thought was a pretty decent
man has turned into bush two....
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:39 PM
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4. not good enough for me, but too much for the fundies
Also leaves unanswered his position on civil unions. But if people interpret as support for gay unions, he's probably carved out a position that offends the fundies but plays well among the non-fundies in Peoria.
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LondonReign2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:41 PM
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6. He'll never get the repug nomination
Fundies dislike him too much.

He'll never win the Presidency -- that picture says too much.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:42 PM
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8. he likes to straddle.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:33 PM
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20. He's a two-headed snake who has always spoken out of both
sides of his mouth. THAT's him. THAT's who he is. THAT's what he does. This is what we need people to understand about him.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 12:48 AM
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23. WORD! nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:41 PM
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5. He's got it exactly backwards, of course
What's needed is access to the body of contract law whereby a non relative is promoted to first degree relative status. Nothing but civil marriage will do that.

The herbal romance and religious baggage are what's optional of "joining ceremonies" are what's optional.

Funny how these loons never get that.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:39 PM
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22. Yes, he does. Which is par for him. n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:42 PM
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7. What kind of nonsense gobbeldygook is that?
Sounds like a smart-ass bush* answer to me.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:45 PM
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10. For anyone actually watching the show where he made that statement
The audience of college kids booed the hell out of him for his answer. Tweety had to intercede to quiet the booing. I was so proud of those young people.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:42 PM
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9. McCain Family values
Bush can torture legally. Gays can't marry legally.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:47 PM
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11. mccain is a tapeworm.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:51 PM
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12. Politicians that promote prejudice - and attacks on the civil rights of
the GLBT community does promote prejudice and bigotry...should be thrown out of office and barred from ever holding public office again.

Using the GLBT community as a political whipping post is an attack.



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Rex_Goodheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:54 PM
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13. Government should not be in the marriage business at all.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:54 PM
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14. Does this mean I can pay my taxes
with Monopoly kind of paper?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:00 PM
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16. John McCain Hypocrite
John McCain Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:57 PM
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15. Ah, Duh. Gays have ALWAYS been able to be married. I know
several couples that are married. The problem is that it is not legal.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:00 PM
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17. Marriage is a legal status, not a ceremony
No matter what the ignoramouses belief.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:37 PM
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21. EXACTLY. "Private ceremonies" are fine, but until legal meaning
is attached, a "private ceremony" could just as well be the wave of a magic Barbie wand or something.

The legal benefits, and obligations too, of any other marriage are necessary.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:03 PM
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18. Where was this event held? I hope the audience booed him
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:03 PM
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19. hope someone is keeping a record
of all the crap coming out of his mouth.......It'll help in the 08 elections.
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