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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 05:56 AM
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Isn't BUSH like an 'Enemy Combatant" RE the Constitution he's Shredding?
Edited on Fri Oct-20-06 05:58 AM by symbolman
I took an oath in the military to protect this country from Enemies both WITHIN and WITHOUT. So did BUSH, to UPHOLD the Constitution.

If someone else was doing this to our country, wouldn't THEY be considered an Enemy Combatant?

He is willfully breaking his oath to UPHOLD the Constitution by LIMITING IT and REVOKING IT, and he is NOT protecting the Citizens of the US, especially if we have to live in fear 24/7, and FAKE fear at that. NFL nukes, bullshit.

I think what he's done is MORE than an impeachable offense, esp since the Supreme Court already told him to Knock it OFF with this Detainee Tribunal crap.

Isn't he an OUTLAW, attacking our God Given rights as American Citizens, attacking OUR constitution, acting as if he is KING and Ignoring our most dearly HELD LAWS as put forth in the Bill of Rights, Magna Carta, Declaration of Independence, the Constitution?

Shouldn't he be arrested and tried for REFUSING to abide by his OATH? Wasn't that OATH a LEGAL condition of OFFICE?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 06:01 AM
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1. Yes to all
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 06:07 AM
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2. Yes. And we need to question him, harshly, about 9/11.
There's a lot we need to know and he's given us the tools to find it out. Perhaps a hot poker...
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 06:13 AM
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3. I don't know if enemy combatant will stick
but treason should.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 06:24 AM
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4. Nope, according to this you're right
Edited on Fri Oct-20-06 06:25 AM by seasonedblue
I don't know anything at all about this site, so I can't vouche for the reliability of this info.


"The term `lawful enemy combatant' means an individual who is--

A. a member of the regular forces of a State party engaged in hostilities against the United States;

B. a member of a militia, volunteer corps, or organized resistance movement belonging to a State party engaged in such hostilities, which are under responsible command, wear a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance, carry their arms openly, and abide by the law of war; or

C. a member of a regular armed force who professes allegiance to a government engaged in such hostilities, but not recognized by the United States.

The term `unlawful enemy combatant' means an individual engaged in hostilities against the United States who is not a lawful enemy combatant.

If Congress intended to protect U.S. citizens from vulnerability to the designation of "unlawful enemy combatant," they only needed to append the phrase "or a U.S. citizen" to the end of the second definition.

But this is by design. Congress has now completed the groundwork for Bush’s ultimate goal: to be able to prove that dissent is the equivalent of "hostility" against the United States – that dissent is disloyalty, or treason.

In effect, Bush is increasingly threatened by a wave of rising intolerance and skepticism, and he wishes for the unconstitutional power to convert his political enemies to enemies of the state. Neoconservative apologists like Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly have been promoting this concept for the last several years, so there are already tens of millions of witting victims in their audiences who are on board with this concept."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/trotter5.html


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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 06:50 AM
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5. Damn Straight it does
It REALLY does APPEAR that he IS according to the terms!

And like Olbermann mentioned in his INCREDIBLE call out to Bush, what if some "irresponsible" future President used these laws AGAINST George Walker Bush?

I would say the time is not when some future President is in OFFICE, the time is NOW, and the Sgt of Arms in Congress or whoever is charged with preventing crime at the top, needs to take Bush into custody, and get a confession, as per his LAW as signed by him, that he should demand the proper USE of nonlethal interrogation beyond the scope of the Geneva Convention, STILL according to the parameters of his own LAW, be made to DESIGNATE HIMSELF an "Enemy Combatant" and have himself sent to Gitmo for further questioning...

I wish someone would write an article and make this known, if nothing else it would highlight the Hypocrisy of the Law itself, and make the Frightening and despicable actions more apparent to the public at large.

Thanks for looking that up :)
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 06:59 AM
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6. I agree with you
I mentioned this the other day here hoping to see georgie interrogated under his own new law. My thread didn't last long..lol.

It's sad to see what the republicans did to Clinton for 8 years and then to watch this idiot now pissing all over the Constitution, the Office of the Presidency, the memory of the Americans that have lost their lives due to an illegal war and getting away with it.

Where is the anger that was there when Bill was getting a hummer? There is no doubt in my mind that bush is a an "Enemy Combatant" and he should be treated as such.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 07:24 AM
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7. Shouldn't everyone in government, including the military, not abiding by
their oaths deserve the most severe penalties provided by law imo, especially all enablers?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 07:31 AM
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8. YES
I was a Purchasing Agent in the USAF during the Nam scene, and believe me if I had taken a RED CENT, gone to a football game on some vendor's dime, or even a HINT of impropriety I would have been making shoes in Levenworth right now and for many years.

LAWS are LAWS, at least that's what the Repigs keep saying, while they abuse kids with sexual IMs and adding sweat shops and Bribery to the list.. Bush is just the Tip of the CRIME Iceberg..

I would call many of these Rubber Stampers in Congress ACCOMPLICES, and that would INCLUDE THE MEDIA who cover up for them, or advance their causes.

Thanks for the input. :)
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