Caption the two "good ol' boys"...

[Crankie Avalon]

"I know just what you mean, but 'macaca' is too Frenchy-sounding.
Our base reacts better when you just use the good old 'n!ggers'."

[peekaloo]

1. Mi caca, Su caca.

[JeffR]

2. "Nice to see ya agin, mah fellow fake-Southerner"

[tocqueville]

3. for once in a million MACACA IS NOT FRENCH

The fucking word doesn't even exist in French. It's fucking amazing how myths are created. The word is probably italian-tunisian, but DEFINITIVELY NOT FRENCH...

[Crankie Avalon]

8. What can I tell ya?

Macaca (slur)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Macaca<1> is a dismissive epithet used by francophone colonials in Central Africa's Belgian Congo for the native population. <2> It may be derived from the name of the genus comprising macaque monkeys. The word macaque has also been used as a racial slur. The macaque's genus name, Macaca, is a latinization of the Bantu (Kongo) ma-kako<3>, meaning "monkey".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaca_(slur)

But the fact that rightwingers still have a hard-on for the French and that someone like Bush might object to a term more because of its rightly or wrongly perceived Frenchness than because of its racism per se is what made me put "Frenchy-sounding" in his mouth (rather than "Italian-sounding," say, which wouldn't have had the same resonance).

[tocqueville]

12. the wikipedia entry is a confirmation

The first European settlers in the Congo Free State derogatively referred to natives as macaques, according to an anonymous Italian account: <4>

Later, in the Belgian Congo, colonial whites continued to call Africans macaques and insist that they had only recently come down from trees. The term sale macaque (filthy monkey) was occasionally used as an insult.<5>

the background of Allen's mother is more Italian than French. If you check the site of the Jewish community in Tunisia (it's in French) you'll soon find out that the Lumbroso family, a sephardic Jewish family, emigrated from Italy to Tunisia. Those families became rich in the 1700th century throug among other things ... slave trade (!). When they moved to Tunisia they never integrated in the original Jewish community (Oriental Jews) and builded their own community, forbidding marriage with other local Jews and even building a separate cemetary. They called them "Tounsans" (a deformation of Tunisians). So that's probaly where the "macaca" comes from, the Italian version of "macaque" (pronounced "makak").

I knew in my younger days a lot of "Pieds Noirs" (former colonists in North Africa) after they came back to France
after the independance of North africa from French rule. And I never heard "macaca" as a slur.

[Crankie Avalon]

13. It really doesn't matter to me whether this is something for which...

...the French or the Italians are "to blame." I mean let's face it, even if this "isn't French," the French aren't exactly known for being non-racists towards Africans. Quite the contrary, they take a backseat to no one in that regard (well, except maybe to us Americans). And certainly, they have much more to answer for than the Italians as a colonial superpower during the European colonization of Africa in the 18th, 19th, and first half of the 20th Centuries.

I mean, I'm not trying to pick on the French, the Italians, or anyone else here. But now I can't help but sense that maybe with your French flag avatar and your French username you might be a little biased and this might be a case of a little downplaying of just how racist the French have been toward Africans (and probably even still are today if the problems the French have with the Africans currently living in their country is any indication). Even if it isn't exactly "macaca," I'm sure the French have plenty of equivalent slurs unquestionably originated by themselves.

[tocqueville]

14. the point is not there

the point is when you accuse somebody as you accuse Allen (with all right) of racism, you'd better get your facts right and not twist them into a "fitting reality" because of the Republican side's sensibilities. Or it will get back at you someday. Because I thought that what was making the difference between honesty and spin, Dems and Republicans.

Obviously in that "macaca" story Allen was for more embarassed by the outing his Jewish background and stories of deer heads in mailboxes than to counter the accusations regarding the source of the slur.

For the second I'd like to avoid a "competition" about who has or had the greater sins in relation to other races.
Or else I'll have to start a long explanation about slaughtering of ones natives, slavery and a factual state of apartheid that lasted practically until Martin Luther King's assassination. Because the American "colonial reproach" towards Europe is nothing else than an attempt to hide the own colonialistic endeavours in other areas, starting with Latin America, not forgetting the Philippines and other places. And finally if something can be said about that in the light of history, Europe has lost its empires and been taught lessons, while the US in complete disregard of these lessons is doing today exactly the same thing the French, British, Dutch and Portuguese did once upon a time. Not very original, neither inspiring.

And regarding racial expletives there are probably as many in American slang than in French.

[Captain Hilts]

4. Two FAKE good ol' boys. nt

[Cyrano]

5. White House hires Virgin Mary to applaud while Bush greets Mr. Macaca.

[WI_DEM]

6. "Damn, you're a purtier me!"

[williesgirl]

7. Asshole #1 and Asshole #2

[obreaslan]

9. "Heh heh, I hear they call you Maccawitz, that's funny."

"I hear they call you ass-hole."

:)

[underpants]

10. Good job on staying out of Vietnam there buddy

Thank you

[YOY]

11. *: "So does holdin' a football in every photo op really work???"

Macaca: "Sure does, thanks for the robotic Stepford wife tip for the missus...works like a charm!!!"