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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:39 AM
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What if Lieberman wins in Connecticut?
First of all Lamont is not the far left candidate that he has been painted, and Lieberman is not the far right candidate that he has been painted.

I think that the far left and the far right in this country are not where the trend is going, and they will become liabilites to both the Democrats and Republicans.

A perfect example was putting up Casey against Santorium in Pennsylvania.

Why were Sharpton and Jackson center stage at the Lamont primary victory celebration? They are not even from Connecticut, but I personally believe they hurt more than helped Lamonts run.

Iraq is an extremely important issue, but it is NOT the only issue.

If the Democrats win the house, and by hopefully the Senate, it will be more because of the disaster that the Republican Congress, and this administration have put this country through.

The extreme left and right have only polarized the issues. Perhaps this election will show that the country is fed up with the extreme right who have taken OVER the republican party, but also not particularly happy with extremes on either side of the spectrum


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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:40 AM
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1. GOP planning on Joe's win.........
they need him to fulfill their agenda.........
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:41 AM
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2. What Is LEIberman Loses?
Just asking.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:41 AM
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3. Lieberman goes along with all the GOPs far-right policies
Maybe it's hard to see that because the center has moved so much
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:45 AM
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7. That's not what I'm worried about with Lieberman
I just want the committee controls - that's where we can make a change, not floor votes. If we only gain six seats, we'll have to deal with Lieberman to get the majority. Right now Lieberman would probably get the chair of the Government Affair committee, which is one of those committees where you stash folks who should have a position of senority but not necessarily one of the big committees.

What if Lieberman insists on a seat in the Judiciary Committee? That's where he could totally screw things up. I couldn't give two shits how Lieberman votes on the floor but if he can give us the majority so we have the current Judicary committee plus regain the one we lost last election (which btw, that was John Kerry who gave up his judiciary seat) - then we can make some major impact these next two months and protect our Supreme Court
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:42 AM
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4. Well, I would hope that we pick up seven senate seats
Because if we only get six, we're gonna have to wheel & deal with Lieberman in hopes that he'll stick with us and give us the committee control that we so desparately need!

And we could feasibly pick up seven seats. I mean right now we look to have four seats sewn up (PA, RI, MT and OH), Missouri and Tennessee are heading our way - we just need to pull one out in Virginia
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:42 AM
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5. If Lieberman wins in liberal Connecticut, it does not bode well for
the Dean/anti-DLC wing of the party.

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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:42 AM
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6. At this point, it looks like Lieberman will win, fairly easily
We're no worse off than we were before, Conn.-wise.
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:45 AM
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8. Have you seen this? Then it's payback time
Limbaugh just said that Lieberman is "seething inside" and has "payback in mind" for the Democrats if he wins. (h/t Atrios)

http://www.firedoglake.com/index.php?author=1
I'll let others speculate as to how "Pills" Limbaugh has all this special insight into his good friend Joe Lieberman, or who told him to start running his mouth on Lieberman's behalf. All I want to know is this — Democratic leaders like Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer may make pale endorsements of Lamont as the Democratic candidate, but they don't have the stones to say that Joe Lieberman is not running as a Democrat and that his actions are bad for the party and he hurts Democratic chances to take both the House and the Senate in the fall. The CW on this one seems to be they don't want to piss off Joe and drive him into the arms of the Republicans, so they take him at his word that he will caucus with them if they just STFU.

Let's say Limbaugh is right, and once again, Joe punks them like he did Reid and Hillary Clinton when he got their letters of support by promising he wouldn't leave the party and make an indy run (and we all know how well that worked out). Seriously, this strategy to let Joe make the entire party leadership look like a bunch of eunuchs in exchange for some worthless guarantee has no internal logic to it.

If these people haven't really gotten behind Lamont (and they most certainly haven't) and what many of us (and Rush) feel would be Lieberman's petulant retaliation comes to pass — he splits and turns control of the Senate over to the GOP anyway — do they really think people are going to shrug their shoulders and just forget that they stood by and let this happen? That they showed such apallingly bad judgment in the situation? Because I really can't see that happening. I just can't imagine that the price exacted for letting Joe trash the party and the country like that would be anything less than horrific.


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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:48 AM
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9. He'll be properly denominated as NOT being a democrat
I don't care. He's an ass hat and has no place in this party.

Fork him
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:50 AM
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10. What are some "extreme" policies that you are afraid of?
I mean ones that really might get enacted- not strawmen or boogey man "they will take all our guns and make Christianity illegal" type stuff.

I dont really see too many "extreme" arguments comming from any national DEMS at all-even the Liberal ones. In fact, compared to Bush, they are pretty moderate and common sense-if anything these Democrats you left unnamed are skewing the spectrum back the center, not further left.

You post is long on criticism and warnings but short on specifics and examples. You may have a point- but what "extreme" legislation or issues do you fear?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 11:53 AM
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11. I can do better, cynically...
What if Lieberman wins and Democrats have a majority of 1? I don't even want to think about it! This whiny, vindictive little man would no doubt revel in this scenario.
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