"Even If Democrats Win in November, They're Out of Luck"

[flowomo]

NYT' Sunday Preview: Even If Democrats Win in November, They're Out of Luck

By E&P Staff

Published: October 20, 2006 1:00 PM ET

NEW YORK An article in this coming Sunday's edition of The New York Times Sunday Magazine advises Democrats not to get their hopes up: Even if they win a sweeping victory in the November elections it is doubtful that this "will significantly alter the Bush administration's way of thinking."

Thus, the headline for the story, by Noah Feldman, reads: "The Mere Midterms." The deck: "Even if voters send President Bush a strong message, he is not likely to listen."

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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003286106

[bryant69]

1. Well duh

Of course President Bush isn't going to change the way he does business. Certainly he won't change the way he looks at things. But he will have to contend with a house of representatives (at least) that will not rubber stamp everything he wants to do.

Bryant
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[rockymountaindem]

2. Was that ever the point? Getting Bush to listen... gimme a break

The point of winning is to block his agenda and start investigations into all the crap that's gone on these past six years. Does anyone expect Bush to ever change course over anything?

[kenny blankenship]

13. If you want to block his agenda, prepare to be accused of TREASON

Not saying you shouldn't try to block him but we better be prepared for polarization to INCREASE rather than decline if Democrats win the House with a good margin. If they don't have a big margin they may as well not have won it at all.

[lazyriver]

16. The only things I want * to listen to are

the sounds of the cell door closing behind him and the faint "clink" of the key as it hits the bottom of the trash can sometime in the near future.

[trotsky]

3. Oh, it won't change Bushco's way of thinking.

But then I don't think anyone believed it would. Bush's most famous quote - "Who cares what you think?"

What it will change is the amount of scrutiny and investigation their illegal actions get, as well as the ability to stymie whatever he needs that has to be approved by Congress. (Granted, that's not as much now thanks to the wimpy Republickers giving their king more power.)

[Demit]

4. Demit says: No Shit, Sherlock.

We know we can't change Bubble Boy's thinking. But we can change what happens in Congress.

[Taverner]

5. We only want him to hear these words: "You're Fired!"

[tigereye]

6. for heaven's sake

Bush was actually saying Iraq was like Vietnam - I heard it this am. So the disgust of the voters must be having some effect....

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

7. Who ever said anything about "altering" Bush's thinking?

I just want to stop his rubber stamp. Never mind that it's a bit of a stretch to apply the term "thinking" to anything Bush does.

[annabanana]

8. I don't care if we "change the way B*sh 'thinks'". .

I just want to be able to slow down some of the terrible things he does.

[Jacobin]

9. Translation:

'You still won't have enough votes to convict after he's impeached.'

We know that. We don't care. At least we can slow the idiot down.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. Right. Just like when Clinton was president, the Presidency was an

"irrelevant" position.

Keep fucking fantasizing, chaps. You're whistling in the dark, cuz you know that If we take the Congress, there's a new Sherrif in town.

[triguy46]

11. We might not be able to do everything we want...

But the butthead of Pennsylvania Ave will get less done...It takes a while to slow the locomotive of inanity.

[Lex]

12. I don't care how * thinks, but he won't jam anything thru Congress

anymore if the Dems are in control.

[rodeodance]

14. Finally: "What that leaves the Democrats is oversight-

......"Nor," he points out, "can a Democratic Congress do much to make the Bush administration more competent," or block "hack" appointees to lower positions.

Finally: "What that leaves the Democrats is oversight--an idea that right now gets their hearts racing but whose limits will eventually become apparent....Government in the sunshine is a good thing--but a brightly lit Washington will still, mostly, be George W. Bush's Washington."

[acmavm]

15. NEWSFLASH: Using the words bush** and think (or any of

its various and sundry forms) is an oxymoron.

[ChickMagic]

17. Of course he won't change his ways

However, I'm salivating over the idea of his
testifying for 2 years before Congress without
Cheney and/or Rove to hold his hand. "I don't
testify" my ass.

[skypilot]

18. I don't know about this guy.

Sounds like he's just trying to let the air out of our balloon. I just googled him and turns out that he was an advisor to Paul Bremmer in Iraq. I'm trying to find out more about him.

[flowomo]

21. his bio is at wikipedia and he wrote this for Mother Jones:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2005/01/feldman.html

[madmusic]

31. A neocon.

No wonder.

[emulatorloo]

19. Who cares what Bush thinks? JUST OVERRIDE HIS ASS!!!!! eom

[Earth_First]

20. So essentially they're beginning to explain it all away already?

Expecting to be thrown into the streets, are they?

[kurth]

22. Noah Feldman was a NEOCON advisor to Paul Bremer

of the cut-and-run Coalition Provisional Authority who lost/stole $9 billion of our money.

[seabeyond]

23. well, duHHHHHH. ok, so.... moran writer? n/t

[ecstatic]

24. And he can 'not listen' from a jail cell, too

Writer has to be a right winger--they are always approaching issues from outlandish, irrelevant perspectives.

[Benhurst]

25. Thanks, Noah. It's always nice to know what the neo-con

fascists are thinking.

[Caution]

26. Ummm. 9th grade civics lesson. Lame Duck President.

what a dipshit.

[Beetwasher]

27. What A BULLSHIT FUCKING PIECE OF CRAP STRAWMAN!!!

That is designed and written to dampen Dem turnout.

No one, and I mean not a single fucking person except this asshole ever suggested that we would alter the way Bush thinks. A Dem Congress and/or Senate however WILL FUCKING HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE AND HAVE INVESTIGATIONS AND SUBPOENA POWER REGARDLESS OF WHAT CHIMPY THINKS! That's the fucking point you asshole.

FUCK YOU NOAH FELDMAN. I'm on to you, I know exactly what you're doing you piece of shit propogandist.

[skypilot]

28. That's exactly what I thought when I read it.

Especially when I saw how dismissive he was of the idea of the Democrats having "oversight". Ole useless oversight. :eyes:

[Beetwasher]

33. Seriously, He's Dismissive of One of the MAIN FUNCTIONS

of Congress. What a fucking idiot.

[VOX]

45. You nailed it, Beetwasher!!!!!!!! n/t

[Lexingtonian]

29. a naive twit, that fellow

There is no changing the "thinking" of the Bush people. There is a collapsing of Bush support into inviability of the Presidency and it doing all it can to make it to January 2009 without utter disintegration.

We can break those last 32% support. Just watch us in February and March.

[Raksha]

32. Not exactly a naive twit...just another troll.

Probably higher paid than most, but still just a troll.

[Malikshah]

37. Quite a young naive twit- who went from Asst Prof of Law in 2001

at NY to Named Full Professor of Law in 2005...

Wow.

Now that's a leap.

[Fleshdancer]

30. no sh*t

This isn't about getting him to listen, it's about forcing him to stop or, at the very least, slow down his destruction.

[alcibiades_mystery]

34. I don't give a fuck whether Bush "listens" or not

In much the same way that Bush doesn't give a fuck whether anyone listens. This is not about listening. It is about the capacity for action: power. If we reduce Bush's power to change the world even one iota, that's enough for me. He must be stopped, period. Whether he "listens" is completely inconsequential. The point will be at least some of those fuckers will have to "listen" (and answer) when they are subpoenaed before the US Congress and placed under fucking oath. Whether they agre, I couldn't care less. Co-equal fucking branch of government, you muthafuckin' rubber-stamping assholes.

[zbdent]

35. Wonder if Mike DeWHINE will use his "gang of 14" to block

filibusters by his own party come January 3 ...

[fooj]

36. Sooooo, what does the NYT suggest that this country do?

Just sit back and let the rat bastard continue to destroy us?

[sandrakae]

38. Maybe not but it will make the Apes job a lot harder.

Dick won't have that smirk on his face anymore and might have to actually hold his head up straight. I still can't figure out why he cant hold his head up. It must be all that cock sucking. His head is always in a tilt position.

[warrens]

39. "Then," he said darkly, "we impeach the mofo." nt

[Imagevision]

40. Bush listen? -- Bush-boy is gonna be the lame duck prezzie

[n2doc]

41. No, W is out of luck. Congress passes the spending bills

If they choose to do so, they can starve EVERY SINGLE F**KING PROGRAM that the BFEE depends on. EVERY ONE. Bring it on, chimp boy, bring it on.

[VOX]

42. Translation: "No reason to vote, Democrats." Go to hell, Noah!

The wingnuts didn't treat the 1994 election as a "mere midterm." And we've smartened up considerably since then.

What a Bush-enabling load of crap. We're not out to "alter the thinking," we're out to gain seats and stop the criminal one-party rule. :grr:

[0rganism]

43. two words for Mr. Feldman: SUBPOENA POWER

of course, taking away bush's rubber stamp congress is a nice side-benefit.

[VOX]

44. Hannity: "After all, your vote won't change who occupies the White House."

Hannity says to Democrats: "Don't vote." Being discussed here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2442983

So ****HOW**** is Noah Feldman's talking point any different than that of Sean Hannity????? It's the same!

This "don't vote, Democrats" is the latest neocon horseshit talking point. :grr:

[Imagevision]

46. Watching Bush with no more power will be a gas...

[librechik]

47. what if we yank your little unitary executive chain?

would that pinch, President Cokesniff?

[pa28]

48. Echoing Hannity's line. Looks like a new memo came down. n/t

[PeaceProgProsp]

49. I'm not voting Dem because I want Bush to change.

I'm voting Dem because I want Dems to represent me and because I believe in what Dems think about the world.

[Raine]

50. "Way of thinking"???

Chimp capable of thought??? :wtf: Uh NO WAY, that empty headed boob doesn't have a thought in that wind tunnel of a head! :silly:

[sweetheart]

51. Every perp flips off the law before they're bagged

The republican war criminals will not go down easily, perhaps without more forceful means,
and the world is ready, mutherfuckers, its world war 3, and they'll start shooting every
year more and more bombs and guns until the bush imperium is finally overthrown... est: 200m dead by 2050
from american WMD's.

[MzNov]

52. Who cares what he's "thinking". We're going to stop what he's DOING.

Democrats or anyone else are not in charge of persons' thoughts. That's the repukelicans.


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