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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:08 PM
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Did Hannity actually say "Democrats should not vote"?
I read this on a blog...someone claimed Sean Hannity had a long discussion about the kind of people who shouldn't bother voting, and he specifically said Democrats shouldn't vote, because Bush will still be President.

What is this? Was this a rumor? Did anyone hear him say this? Is this the new Republican party line?

And if he did say it, why didn't Howard Dean burst into his studio and throttle the jerk on camera?
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jhuth at work Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:09 PM
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1. Here's what he said.
HANNITY: Now, one other thing here. You know what? I think some of you need to stay home on Election Day. What? That's right. I think -- I know it sounds terrible. I don't want everybody to vote; I want well-informed people to vote. You know what we're gonna do on our man-on-the-street segment tomorrow, man-on-the-street Thursday? I'm gonna have three pictures -- Nancy Pelosi, Dennis Hastert, and Harry Reid -- and I'm gonna ask people if they know who they are. And you know what I bet? I bet you nobody knows. But I think -- look, I think for some, I think you've gotta accept -- and I want you to stay home on Election Day because you must accept the fact that your party has abandoned you. You've gotta accept the fact that your vote doesn't matter anyway. So all you Democrats, stay home. So, you know, why don't you stay home on Election Day? This is how the press is going to report this: "Hannity says Democrats should stay home on Election Day." After all, your vote won't change who occupies the White House. Your candidates have absolutely no ideas how to win the war on terrorism. The only ideas that they espouse are ways to undermine the troops in harm's way and undermine their commander in chief while they're at war. Your candidates have no idea how to keep this economy strong.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200610200001


LOLS like we're gonna stay home.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:12 PM
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3. It's stupid to say it outright
At least he's not going the other route and saying that "Democrats don't understand the issues or else they would be Republicans. Since Democrats don't understand the issues, they shouldn't be allowed to vote."

It can always be worse I guess.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:13 PM
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4. You know...
Hannity is quite eloquent for a guy speaking directly out of his own ass.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:15 PM
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5. Hannity sounds so like Goebbels
Edited on Fri Oct-20-06 02:16 PM by SpiralHawk
propagandery and demagoguery.
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BentleyJD Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:56 PM
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10. Hey Hannity, you jackass....
I voted already. And your sweetheart Harris didn't get my vote.
Tell me how to vote to my face and my guidedog dietrich will bark at you like you were a giant asshole (oops, you are, forgot about that)
take care
tony and wonder guidedog dietrich
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:05 PM
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12. Nothing wrong with Sean that a 34 oz. Louisville Slugger wouldn't fix nt
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:10 PM
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2. He said it
There was thread about it earlier, I think on GD: Politics. This should energize our base even more, because it shows they are in dire straits.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:18 PM
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6. Hannity remains
one of only a few people who I will kick in the nads if I ever see him in the street. No warning, just a great Cartman style kick in the nuts. I'd love to see one of his moronic "man in the street segments then".
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:31 PM
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7. I hope the camera is rolling when you connect.
:rofl:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:49 PM
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9. "Man-doubled over-on-street"
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:48 PM
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8. desperater and desperater


just sit back and watch them throw huge roundhouse punches that have no force behind them, wobbling around the ring and bouncing off the ropes. OOn Nov 7 there will be a huge THUD! and they will collapse like a heap of useless rags and filth.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 02:58 PM
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11. isn't his audience mostly the sheeple? What democrat would actually
listen to him and agree? When i say democrat i don't mean the kind that call his show or cspan claiming "Well i'm a democrat but-----"
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 03:08 PM
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13. Somebody need to call in on his show and tell him what an ass he is.
Just another example of Pugs working to take away the rights of Americans
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 06:04 PM
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14. Must be the *Co meme of the day: Former Bremer advisor,...
Edited on Fri Oct-20-06 06:16 PM by tiptoe
Noah Feldman, also promotes a "dismal for Dems" gist, similar to Hannity's.

Talk of desperation, for sure, but aren't "they" the ones who are desperate? If current pre-election poll trends continue and prevail on election day, and anti-Constitution, anti-Bill-of-Rights, rubber-stamping, Neocon-a**-kissing-Republicans lose control of the House and/or Senate (and TIA demonstrates a 99% probability Dems will win 30+ House seats ASSUMING NO FRAUD...see below), then investigations by Dems -- with subpoena power -- will follow: Pre-war Intelligence Fraud, 9/11 Insurance Fraud+, Election Fraud, Plame-gate, etc...i.e. the Truth.

In answer to propagandists like Feldman and Hannity who promote "Even If Democrats Win in November, They're Out of Luck...No need for Dems to go to the polls" see: What's most important about winning the House? Pelosi: "Subpoena power"

On election day, Nov 2, 2004, Bush' 14-day Approval Rating stood at ~ 48%. TIA wrote then: http://organikrecords.com/corporatenewslies/beginner_v2.htm#rules">To believe that Bush won the election, you must also believe....

Today, with the same pollsters showing * approval near 36%, and with corruption and sex scandals shaking the GOP, only more Election Fraud can sustain GOP's majorities.

=========
Channeling TIA (emphasis added):

"Oct. 15 Polls show: Only FRAUD can stop the Democrats from winning the Senate" (posted Oct 16 elsewhere)
"Oct. 15 Polls show: Only FRAUD can stop the Democrats from winning the House" (posted Oct 16 elsewhere)


A Monte Carlo Forecast Simulation
(1000 election trials)

How many of the 58-contested GOP House seats can the Democrats expect to win, assuming a FRAUD-FREE election?
Corollary: How many elections must the GOP need to steal to maintain control?

This is an update to a prior analysis of 31 competitive GOP-held seats. The data base is bigger; it includes the polls for 58 seats. The Democrats need to capture 15 to gain control of the House.

In the 58 polls:
1) Democrats lead in 15 beyond the MoE
2) Democrats lead in 11 within the MoE
3) Dems TIE GOP in 5
4) GOP leads in 15 within the MoE
5) GOP leads in 12 beyond the MoE

The analysis ASSUMES ZERO FRAUD. It is based strictly on the latest poll shares, undecided voter allocation and margin of error. The model will be updated for new polling data and run again just prior to election day.

The goal of the simulation is to calculate a range of probabilities of the Democrats winning a specified number of the 58 elections, over a range of undecided voter allocation assumptions. The simulation produces a VERY ROBUST ESTIMATE of the number of elections that would need to be stolen in order for the GOP to retain control of the House.

SIMULATION OBJECTIVE:
Calculate a 25-scenario probability matrix based on
a) 5 scenarios of undecided voters allocated to the Democrats and
b) 5 scenarios of the number of captured GOP seats

In a published study of over 150 elections, the challenger won the undecided vote 82% of the time. Even with the VERY CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTION that the Democrats will win just 50% of the undecided, it's a virtual 100% probability that they will WIN AT LEAST 25 SEATS, TEN more than they need for a House MAJORITY, assuming NO FRAUD.

In the MOST LIKELY SCENARIO, in which it is assumed that the Democrats will win 60% of the undecided vote, they can expect to capture 32 of the 58 GOP-held seats. There is a 99% probability that they will win 30 or more. Therefore, in order to retain the House, the GOP will HAVE TO STEAL A MINIMUM of 15 elections.

Sensitivity Analysis
--------------------

UVA: Undecided voter % allocated to Democrats
UVA 50 55 60 67 75
Dems win ----------Probability%--------
25 seats 100 100 100 100 100
30 seats 35 85 99 100 100
35 seats 0 3 30 90 100
40 seats 0 0 0 5 70
45 seats 0 0 0 0 1


Assuming a 60% UVA, the probability of Dems winning N seats:
N 15 20 25 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39
Prob 100 100 100 99 96 86 75 51 30 13 4 1 0

Polling Detail
-------------


Adjusted: Dem & GOP polls
(60% undecided to Democrat)
Prob: probability of Democratic win
UVA Adj@60% DEM
District Poll Poll Challenger WIN
Num Code Pollster Sample MoE Date Dem GOP DEM GOP Prob
=== ====== ======== ======= ==== ====== ==== ==== ==== ==== ======
Average 3.80 45.4 45.9 50.6 49.4 57.8%

1 AZ-1 RT Strategies 983 LV 3.09 10-Oct 50 46 52.4 47.6 99.9%
2 AZ-5 SurveyUSA 509 LV 4.40 15-Oct 45 48 49.2 50.8 23.8%
3 AZ-8 Zogby 500 LV 4.50 2-Oct 45 37 55.8 44.2 100.0%
4 CA-4 RT Strategies 997 LV 3.09 10-Oct 44 52 46.4 53.6 0.0%
5 CA-11 Greenberg 413 LV 4.90 26-Sep 48 46 51.6 48.4 90.0%

6 CA-50 SurveyUSA 540 LV 4.30 12-Sep 40 54 43.6 56.4 0.0%
7 CO-4 Mason-Dixon 400 LV 5.00 7-Oct 36 46 46.8 53.2 0.6%
8 CO-5 Mason-Dixon 400 LV 5.00 7-Oct 37 37 52.6 47.4 97.9%
9 CO-7 RT Strategies 991 LV 3.09 10-Oct 47 47 50.6 49.4 77.7%
10 CT-2 Zogby 500 LV 4.50 2-Oct 41 44 50.0 50.0 50.0%

11 CT-4 Zogby 500 LV 4.50 2-Oct 46 41 53.8 46.2 100.0%
12 CT-5 RT Strategies 996 LV 3.09 10-Oct 46 52 47.2 52.8 0.0%
13 FL-13 RT Strategies 1024 LV 3.07 10-Oct 47 44 52.4 47.6 99.9%
14 FL-16 RT Strategies 1001 LV 3.09 1-Oct 50 43 54.2 45.8 100.0%
15 FL-22 RT Strategies 1022 LV 3.10 29-Aug 44 52 46.4 53.6 0.0%

16 ID-1 RT Strategies 998 LV 3.09 10-Oct 43 49 47.8 52.2 0.3%
17 IL-6 RT Strategies 997 LV 3.07 10-Oct 47 47 50.6 49.4 77.8%
18 IL-10 Mellman Group 400 LV 4.90 11-Oct 32 49 43.4 56.6 0.0%
19 IL-14 RT Strategies 1003 LV 3.08 10-Oct 42 52 45.6 54.4 0.0%
20 IL-19 RT Strategies 1023 LV 3.08 10-Oct 36 53 42.6 57.4 0.0%

21 IN-2 RT Strategies 989 LV 3.07 10-Oct 50 46 52.4 47.6 99.9%
22 IN-8 Indiana State 626 LV 3.90 12-Oct 55 32 62.5 37.5 100.0%
23 IN-9 SurveyUSA 512 LV 4.40 15-Oct 48 46 51.6 48.4 92.3%
24 IA-1 Bennett, Petts 400 RV 4.90 8-Oct 48 37 57.0 43.0 100.0%
25 IA-2 RT Strategies 1006 LV 3.09 10-Oct 48 47 51.0 49.0 89.8%

26 KY-3 RT Strategies 996 LV 3.09 10-Oct 48 48 50.4 49.6 69.4%
27 KY-4 RT Strategies 1000 LV 3.09 10-Oct 46 49 49.0 51.0 10.2%
28 MN-1 RT Strategies 1024 LV 3.08 10-Oct 47 48 50.0 50.0 50.0%
29 MN-2 SurveyUSA 519 LV 4.40 15-Oct 42 50 46.8 53.2 0.2%
30 MN-6 RT Strategies 995 LV 3.09 10-Oct 50 45 53.0 47.0 100.0%

31 NV-3 Mason-Dixon 400 RV 5.00 21-Sep 37 47 46.6 53.4 0.4%
32 NH-1 Research 2000 300 LV 6.00 14-Sep 31 56 38.8 61.2 0.0%
33 NH-2 Univ of NH 220 LV 6.20 24-Sep 36 46 46.8 53.2 2.2%
34 NJ-7 RT Strategies 1022 LV 3.10 10-Oct 46 48 49.6 50.4 30.6%
35 NM-1 RT Strategies 986 LV 3.09 10-Oct 52 44 54.4 45.6 100.0%

36 NY-3 RT Strategies 984 LV 3.09 10-Oct 46 48 49.6 50.4 30.6%
37 NY-19 Abacus Assoc 600 RV 4.00 15-Sep 44 49 48.2 51.8 3.9%
38 NY-20 Grove Insight 400 RV 4.90 13-Oct 41 42 51.2 48.8 83.1%
39 NY-24 RT Strategies 1029 LV 3.07 10-Oct 53 42 56.0 44.0 100.0%
40 NY-26 RT Strategies 1056 LV 3.07 10-Oct 56 40 58.4 41.6 100.0%

41 NY-29 Cooper&Secrest 503 LV 4.40 21-Sep 39 43 49.8 50.2 42.9%
42 NC-8 RT Strategies 1029 LV 3.08 10-Oct 51 44 54.0 46.0 100.0%
43 NC-11 RT Strategies 979 LV 3.09 10-Oct 51 43 54.6 45.4 100.0%
44 OH-1 Anzalone-Liszt 500 LV 4.40 1-Aug 45 45 51.0 49.0 81.4%
45 OH-2 RT Strategies 1003 LV 3.09 10-Oct 48 45 52.2 47.8 99.7%

46 OH-6 RT Strategies 982 LV 3.10 29-Aug 56 40 58.4 41.6 100.0%
47 OH-15 RT Strategies 1015 LV 3.90 10-Oct 53 41 56.6 43.4 100.0%
48 OH-18 Greenberg 400 RV 5.00 11-Oct 48 41 54.6 45.4 100.0%
49 OK-5 SurveyUSA 435 LV 4.70 10-Oct 33 62 36.0 64.0 0.0%
50 PA-6 RT Strategies 1023 LV 3.07 10-Oct 52 46 53.2 46.8 100.0%

51 PA-7 RT Strategies 1017 LV 3.08 10-Oct 52 44 54.4 45.6 100.0%
52 PA-8 Grove Insight 400 RV 4.90 15-Oct 44 40 53.6 46.4 99.8%
53 PA-10 Bennett,Petts 400 RV 4.90 9-Oct 51 37 58.2 41.8 100.0%
54 VA-2 RT Strategies 982 LV 3.10 10-Oct 46 48 49.6 50.4 30.6%
55 VA-5 SurveyUSA 502 LV 4.40 10-Oct 40 56 42.4 57.6 0.0%

56 VA-10 RT Strategies 1004 LV 3.07 10-Oct 42 47 48.6 51.4 3.7%
57 WA-8 RT Strategies 1015 LV 3.09 10-Oct 45 48 49.2 50.8 15.5%
58 WI-8 RT Strategies 983 LV 3.09 10-Oct 48 46 51.6 48.4 97.9%
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 06:10 PM
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15. It makes absolutely no sense
That's hardly a reason to dismiss any notion that Hannity said anything like that.

Perhaps in his wet dreams he can persuade Democrats or other opponents of the fascist Frat Boy not to vote on the pain of being declared enemy combatants. I don't think Gitmo is big enough to hold 61% of Americans.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-20-06 06:10 PM
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16. He says that kind of thing constantly
Edited on Fri Oct-20-06 06:11 PM by djohnson
He has said Democrats have no place anywhere in government and that he would never let his daughter date a Democrat. He is only slightly short of saying Democrats do not deserve to live.
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