Bush Bars Courts From Detainee Review - Court Told It Lacks Power...

[bridgit]

'Moving quickly to implement the bill signed by President Bush this week that authorizes military trials of enemy combatants, the administration has formally notified the U.S. District Court here that it no longer has jurisdiction to consider hundreds of habeas corpus petitions filed by inmates at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba.

In a notice dated Wednesday, the Justice Department listed 196 pending habeas cases, some of which cover groups of detainees. The new Military Commissions Act (MCA), it said, provides that "no court, justice, or judge" can consider those petitions or other actions related to treatment or imprisonment filed by anyone designated as an enemy combatant, now or in the future.' http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/19/AR2006101901692_pf.html

[babylonsister]

1. Didn't waste any time, did they. NOM! nt

[bridgit]

2. nope...

[indepat]

26. Wow! there went the separation of powers, the three separate but equal

main branches of government.

[SeattleGirl]

3. Well, he pretty much has his dictatorship sewn up, doesn't he?

I feel so enraged at what is going on. Bush is the most incompetent person to ever hold the office of President, he and so many Republicans are so fucking crooked, immoral, amoral, unethical, and (add your own word), and yet they have managed to grab near absolute power. If we do get the House (and maybe even the Senate) back this November, I expect the Dems to raise holy hell, and DO SOMETHING to put some brakes on this disaster of an Administration.

[bridgit]

5. was talking with hubby the other day, it was a mistake to portray...

bush as being dumb...he's not so dumb as he is cunning, like animal-predator; the 'dumb part' so as to say, is that he has no nuance to his thought-speak being a child of such privilege & not having to care what others think or feel; what we've been hearing all along was what was on his such-as-it-is mind i.e. "nothing wrong with dictatorships so long as i'm the dictator" "catapult the propaganda" "he's a major league asshole (with open mics right there on stage) and all that stuff in between that too many of us have maybe written off too easily as 'dumb'...but it's here today and i agree with you it is well, well, well, well past time to start calling this shit out & to an unceremonious close

it would be nice to hear a response so i'm hoping dem leadership are just keeping their powder dry cause the numbers good so far :hi:

[cassiepriam]

33. Yep, looks like he has done a pretty good job of destroying

the democracy. Gotta hand it to him.
Not bad for a stupid druggie.

[ceile]

4. admin tells judiciary....

:banghead:

[bridgit]

6. yeah, ain't that a hoot...

:argh:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. not tells, dictates.

I tell my spousette things, and while she hears it all, being independent, smart and self-aware, she may not listen. I would never dictate actions to her, unless it was a dire emergency. In those rare cases, she listens and reacts ASAP. Funny, that seems to be bilateral about us.

I wonder at what point even the Scalito pair will realize that America's future is at risk. Unless they become unindicted co-conspirators. If they are, our country is truly fucked.

[warrens]

7. Pure fascism

Let's make sure not to repeal these festering sores too quickly, though. Keep them around for a few months to use on the top levels of the national and state Repuke parties. And all the neocons. A few thousand waterboarded enemy combatants from good families stuffed into an underground prison somewhere in equatorial Africa with brutal, homicidal guards is a good start to taking back our country.

[bridgit]

9. there'ya go, "who's orders were you following?" up to the point of...

organ failure...it's all legal now

[plcdude]

10. Good Try

but ain't gonna happen. Intimidating the judicial system will lead to activism and that leads to the chance of checks and balances actually happening. So this is great news.

[bridgit]

12. i bet there's dozens if not hundreds of challenges to this idiot abuse...

of american standards & proofs just waiting to be time/date stamped & filed

[Stand and Fight]

11. Dictatorship...

How the hell long are we going to let this go on?

[bridgit]

14. accent on the 'dic', my hope is that it will all be coming about in less..

than 3 weeks :patriot:

[Stand and Fight]

15. I don't know...

Leaving this in the hands of voting is one thing. Leaving it in the hands of the Democrats in Congress is another thing.

I just don't know if traditional solutions are going to solve this problem. It may well be time for unprecedently, rarely used, civil actions.

[bridgit]

18. at the slightest hint of republican malfeasance vis-a-vis the voting...

process...i think you will see just that = American Civil Liberties & Actions across vast tracts of the nation

[Stand and Fight]

23. I normally say hope is futile...

But should such be the case I hope AND pray that the American people rise up against these jerks.

[bridgit]

29. i'm thinking it will be different this time round, america has been...

walking in her sleep & her 'we the people' right along with her...and it is time to wake up!! lower taxes are too cynical & conceited a reason to vote for her further destruction, but i hear you we'll see

[garthranzz]

13. What happens when a conservative lawyer files suit?

Of course a "liberal" lawyer or the ACLU will do so, but I'd love to see - and don't think it's farfetched - a conservative lawyer file suit. I'm sure some court would love to have this handed to them. What do you mean you can tell us where we have jurisdiction? The court agrees to hear the case. What does Shrubface do? If he doesn't appeal it, if he ignores it -because the court has no jurisdiction - he loses. If he appeals it, who does he appeal it to? Even the Supreme Court doesn't have jurisdiction. And if he appeals, he admits the courts do have jurisdiction over the constituionality of the law.

Damn fascist despot.

[bridgit]

30. that day too will come...

then they'll be eating crow

[Little Star]

16. My special thank you to.....

Sandra Day O'Connor for voting to select this dictator and his gang in 2000. She was the swing vote and in my mind, she turned her back on the constitution and the american people.

[bridgit]

21. and isn't she just having her little death bed conversion these days...

but you're right...she was little assist in the defending of the constitution when she was most able to do so

[BelgianMadCow]

17. Are these 196 cases all about aliens or not? Anyone know?

[dogday]

19. Definition of Hell

Being locked up and not being told what for, or that anyone can know, that nobody can help you, that you can't have an attorney, that you have no rights and you will stay incarcerated, possibly tortured to be left to rot and never know if you will leave or not.....


That is the definition of hell and that is what we have created...

[The Backlash Cometh]

20. Obviously, now's the time some smart lawyer points out that it would

have required a constitutional amendment to change habeas corpus.

[Warren Stupidity]

22. Not if you cannot get the case into the court system.

The cabal is attempting an end run around the judicial branch here. With no cases to rule on it may be difficult for the courts to hear challenges to this odious law. No hearings, no rulings, no constitutional issue.

[The Backlash Cometh]

24. The courts should try it in absentia.

Let the public decide who wins.

[Warren Stupidity]

25. I don' think that is the issue here.

Even if it were possible to appeal 'in abstentia' (and I don't see why it wouldn't be) the executive branch is making the assertion that no courts have any standing, that none of them can hear an appeal from any of these detainees. No appeal, no ruling, no constitutional issues.

[The Backlash Cometh]

28. Do you remember back in 2000 when there was a transfer of power?

After Clinton left, it was obvious that Clinton was far more popular than Bush was and people wondered if he was going to speak up and create the perception of a second government operating in the US. Well, if it's true that habeas corpus can only be changed by a constitutional amendment, then it seems clear to me that the court is obligated to try this case, with or without the White House present.

[Warren Stupidity]

31. Constitutional issues are not 'tried'.

Constitutional issues are decided on appeal based on prior court decisions. Perhaps refusing to issue a writ is something that can be appealed, but then again perhaps not.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

27. K&R

:kick:

[cassiepriam]

32. Notice how all those who supported Bush are getting hit hard?

Military, Courts, repug congress, etc.

Karma time.

[bridgit]

34. yep, it's karma time...

:thumbsup:

[jazzjunkysue]

35. I want to see a judge hear a case anyway and watch what they do to him/her

Let's see the GOP drag a judge away in handcuffs, and off to Gitmo.

[bridgit]

36. that would be a day to remember...