Another End To This World - 2012 Bullshit

[greyl]

You may have become aware of a panic among catastrophe-fans that’s based on what they call the “2012 cycle change.” You see, since the current Mayan calendar cycle covers the period 3113 BC to 2012 AD, the calamatists have decided that in that year, a “total collapse of time” will occur, and our species will enter “post history.” (Folks, I just report these matters; I don’t explain them.)

An author named Patrick Geryl gets down to specifics of what will happen in 2012:

Immense earthquakes and kilometers-high tidal waves will torment the surface of the earth. At the same time a pole shift will occur. In just a couple of hours the earth's crust will shift thousands of kilometers. In this short period the United States and Europe will be completely destroyed.

Billions of casualties will occur worldwide; only a few human beings will have a chance to survive. These are the horrible facts. But how do you survive this "Armageddon", this ultimate "End of Times" scenario?

Need I add that Patrick tells his readers just what to do? Can you say, “Noah”? Hey, it worked before, didn’t it? I read it in another book…

Since these nut-cases also claim that “all of the predictions” of the Mayan calendar have been accurate – whatever that refers to – and that planet Earth will “come into synchronization with the Universe by 2012 AD,” we’re not at all surprised to see that Amazon.com (how appropriate!) shows more than 100 books on the subject, with titles like "Doomsday 2012" and "2012: You Have a Choice!" All over this doomed Earth, “spirituality conferences” are convening. In New Mexico, as we’d expect, the nutters will gather for a "2012 Ascension Symposium" which promises to "offer humanity global reassurance and change the consciousness of the world.” Woo-woo author Geoff Stray is giving a series of lectures on 2012 throughout 2006 and 2007, including one at a UFO Conference in Nevada in February, and a "Healing Conference" in Jericho, West Bank, Israel, in May. We assume that Geoff will hurry to spend his lecture money, which will be of no use after a few years.
http://www.randi.org/jr/2006-10/100620sentient.html#i4

[Warren DeMontague]

1. I'm more worried about 2112.

We a-a-Are The Priests! Of the Temples! Of Syrinx! ;-)

[GOPBasher]

17. Awesome album! Awesome band!

Rush Rules! :headbang:

[MercutioATC]

2. My take on the Mayan calendar ending in 2012...

The guy carving the calendar into stone looked up one day, realized he was over 1000 years into the future, and said to himself "What the hell am I doing?"

[Stuckinthebush]

30. HAAAA!!!!

I was thinking the exact same thing!

I'm imagining a guy with a chisel and stone hammer stepping back and saying, "Oh, fu*k this! 2012??? Who am I kidding! I'm done."

:D

[hatrack]

31. "Man, my arms are getting REALLY tired - and for WHAT!?!?!"

:toast:

[Crandor]

3. Why are you quoting an article that doesn't exist?

Despite what the cult of so-called "skeptics" believe, James Randi is as real as Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. There is no real evidence that he really exists. Frankly we should think about locking those believers up in mental institutions, because they are obviously totally delusional.

(Isn't it fun to apply skepticism to stuff other than religion and the supernatural?)

[kiki]

21. Erm... come again?

[Random_Australian]

22. ...... except that isn't skepticism.

Skepticism is reasonable. That wasn't. I'll presume you are kidding.

[DivinBreuvage]

4. Old cultures are stupid

If the Maya were so smart, where are they now, huh? Shuts the woowoos up every time. *giggle*

[greyl]

5. To your subject, I say Bullshit.

How long do you think humans have been on Earth?

[DivinBreuvage]

27. Long enough to have spent most of it mired

in laughable superstition and religious claptrap like this woowoo stuff Randi so hilariously explodes! I always feel a really warm glow when I can laugh at a woowoo. Don't you?

[Lilith Velkor]

10. They are now the Zapatista Liberation Army

And unlike smug, ignorant, *giggling* American racist fuckwits, they have the balls to stand up to corporate fascism.

[DivinBreuvage]

28. Lilith, there is a literary device known as irony

and that's all I'm going to say.

[Lilith Velkor]

34. That's as may be

But the racist assumptions of the woowoos are aggravating enough as it is without skeptics buying into them.

And realistically, if you make a joke at the expense of an oppressed people on a progressive forum, some damn liberal is likely to come along and bitch about it, because that shit ain't funny.

Please don't do that again. Peace.

[Richard Steele]

16. The same place they've always been. nm

[kiki]

36. You shoulda seen

the thread about astrology we had a while ago. When people asserted that there was absolutely no science behind astrology, erstwhile believers countered that it was "the science of the ancients".

"Git ma leeches and wolfsbane Paw - I'm a-gonna practice me some science of the ancients, sure as the sun revolves around the earth!"

[Bad Penny]

6. nothing lasts forever

:shrug:

[Chulanowa]

7. One does wonder at times

Perhaps 2012 will just be when we notice that, ecologically and geopolitically speaking, the fecal matter has impacted the oscillating unit.

[Random_Australian]

23. Or perhaps 2011 or 2010 or 2158, but more likely about 1928-ish.

I can't remember - when was the first atmospheric analytics carried out?

[sweetheart]

8. there's not enough mine shaft space

Not enough!!! ;-)

[greyl]

9. huh? nt

[sweetheart]

11. Dr. Strangelove nt

[greyl]

12. which scene should I cue? nt

[sweetheart]

25. At the very end

At the scene just before "We'll meet again, don't know how, don't know when, but i know we'll meet again some sunny day."

George C. Scott and peter sellers get in to a discussion about the mine shaft gap.

[MrCoffee]

29. LMAO! The Mineshaft Gap!

[Jeroen]

13. It is not the end, it is a new beginning n/t

[bananas]

14. That's when Bush gets re-elected for a 4th term. nt

[bananas]

15. That's when Bush gets re-elected for a 4th term. nt

[Solomon]

18. There's a difference between believing the end of the world is coming

because some God wants to punish us, or some spiritual karma thing or magic or whatever, and the world (as we know it) is coming to an end because there may be another pole shift or global warming. I agree with the characterization of those people talking about the God/spiritual thing being "nutcases". However, I do believe the earth has shifted poles before and it's possible it may do so again. If that happens, then yes, it will be the end of the world as we know it. That's a scientific issue like global warming. I don't think people who look into these kinds of things should be called "nutcases". Unless of course you are referring to the fact that they think they can predict when it will happen through non-scientific sources.

[Random_Australian]

24. 1) I think he referring to the prediction thing and

2) Pole shifts are not all that bad. Not nice, sure, but does not appear catastrophic.

[ClintonTyree]

19. These are the same twits that believe in the Bronze Age........

tales that comprise the bible. Anything that comes close to supporting their twisted beliefs is taken as gospel. These people are not thinkers, they're readers. People are so willing to believe in somethng......anything, that makes their lives seem important, eternal, and not merely a biological function that will some day cease to exist without any deep mysterious meaning behind it all. :eyes:
In a distant culture in the future someone will find and old "Archie" comic book and a new religion will be born. Jughead will be looked upon as an ancient wise-man, Veronica as the mother of god and Archie himself? Odes and hymns will be sung about his grace and benevolence. Malt shops will spring up everywhere and become the new churches where Archie and the gang will be worshiped.

Hey, it could happen. :shrug:

[kellenburger]

20. This should be obvious !

"....the current Mayan calendar cycle covers the period 3113 BC to 2012 AD"

The world is NOT going to end,
those darn Mayans just want you
to buy a new calendar!

[originalpckelly]

26. What about 2525, if man is still alive? I'm still waiting for Y2K.

What ever happened? I thought I was going to croak at the stroke of mid-night, I guess I have to wait.

[Strelnikov_]

32. I Am More Concerned With The Lessons Not Learned From The Maya And Other

collapses. Our modern industrial civilization is just as susceptible, maybe even more so, to partial collapse, due to the multitude of interdependencies needed to keep it running.

As our fifth strand, we have to wonder why the kings and nobles failed to recognize and solve these seemingly obvious problems undermining their society. Their attention was evidently focused on their short-term concerns of enriching themselves, waging wars, erecting monuments, competing with each other, and extracting enough food from the human peasants to support all those activities. Like most leaders throughout human history, the Maya kings and nobles did not heed long-term problems, insofar as they perceived them.

. . .

Like Easter Island chiefs erecting ever larger statues, eventually crowned by pukao, and like Anasazi elites treating themselves to necklaces of 2000 turquoise beads, Maya kings sought to outdo each other with more and more impressive temples, covered with thicker and thicker plaster, reminiscent in turn of the extravagant conspicuous consumption by modern American CEO's. The passivity of Easter chiefs and Maya kings in the face of the real big threats to their societies completes our list of disquieting parallels.

From Chapt. 5, 'The Maya Collapses', from 'Collapse: How Societies Choose To Fail Or Succeed’ by Jared Diamond

[michael_1166]

33. Don't judge what you don't understand.

Geoff Stray is the most knowledgeable author about 2012 you can find. And if you'd actually read his book, you'd find out in his opinion the world won't end in 2012.
And what is wrong with earning money by giving lectures? Even authors need to pay their bills. And he's not making millions with a book published by a small UK publisher almost no one has ever heard of.

[muriel_volestrangler]

35. Hmm "Geryl" - "greyl" - I think I see a pattern ...

'Fess up, greyl, you are the real author of the book, aren't you? :evilgrin:

(hey, it's as good a theory as a bible code, or numerology)

[sarcasmo]

37. The Cubs will win the World Series in 2012.

Bookmark this and call me a Prophet in 2012.


GO TIGERS!

[dougkeenan]

38. In 2012 can we start preparing for 2112 ... ?

Hold the red star proudly high in hand!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

39. The world is going to end a lot sooner then that.

My calendar ends on December 31st, of this year!

Send me cash or money orders and I'll tell you how to survive the apocalypse.