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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 03:09 AM
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has anyone seen those ads telling people not to vote ?
it starts with a bunch of people saying not to vote. and then towards the end it says something about not voting until you find out the record of someone.

it seemed like a right wing type of ad as Republicans benefit from low voter turnout,e specially in this election when things don't look good for them.

but then i saw it was from the AARP . aren't they the senior citizen's group ? arne't they mostly Democratic or supportive of Democratic issues ?

why would anyone make an ad like this ? even if you wanted people to look at records having a bunch of people telling others not to vote is just fucking stupid.

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 03:23 AM
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1. "Don't Vote" Is An Attention-Getter
You noticed the ad, right? it was the "don't vote" that caught your attention, and made you listen to the entire ad. It's an example of effective copywriting; instead of tuning out yet another "do your duty and vote" PSA, you sat through this one and paid attention to it. It's far from "fucking stupid."
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 03:45 AM
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3. and you think people are going to actually look up info ?
yeah, they might take notice with all those people saying "don't vote" but in the end when they hear "don't vote before you get informed" i doubt they will suddenly decide to go out and inform themselves. i can see them saying "fuck it" i will do it next time.

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 04:14 AM
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4. It May Make Them Think About It More Than a Bland "Go Vote" Ad
*Especially* since the ad is sponsored by the AARP - even though their target group may be more likely to be more informed on some issues (Social Security). I don't think it will suppress the vote - if an ad that blatant could, the GOP would be running them 24/7.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 03:24 AM
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2. I haven't seen it, but think you should check out someone's record
before voting. Informed voting is good. Maybe they want people to actually consider if their representatives actually represent them?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 06:16 AM
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5. The ad makes a point, but I don't like it.
Just like some ads for other things, it's over the heads of the more dimwitted segment of the population. That's why the latest "terra" campaign ad featuring Osama and the ticking sound will probably cause some morons to think, "Dang, I am afraid and only (insert name of 'puke Congressman or Senator) will keep me safe. Now hand me another beer there Vern, will ya??"
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 06:17 AM
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6. basically telling people to be informed
to know what's going on, encouraging people to vote for the candidate and not the party

There have been times where I've left a spot blank on a ballot because I did not have enough information to make a decision regarding a ballot question or candidate. I didn't feel comfortable just checking a box based on blind faith.



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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 06:24 AM
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7. The ad is aimed at retarded senior citizens who vote against their
own best interests!
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 06:58 AM
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8. I don't like them. n/t
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 07:00 AM
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9. actually, I'd recommend going to the website that they offer up.
http://elections.dontvote.com/electionportal?action=viewStateElections&state=IL

for many people who are unsure, or don't know a darned thing about who is running, this could help them.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 07:44 AM
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10. The AARP is nothing but a rightwing PAC
They helped push the prescription drug plan through and probably got a kick back from drug companies..
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:13 AM
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11. If you think that, go to the website and check it out.
I did. It lists some major issues that are of concern to their constituency, such as Social
Security and healthcare, and where the candidates stand on a state-by-state basis. They compare that with the "official" AARP position. I live in Tennessee, where the senate race is one of the critical races for taking back the senate, and anyone who looked at the site would definitely conclude that Ford is the senior-friendly candidate. I don't like what AARP did in the Medicare debacle, but I see them as an ally sometimes, and this is one of those times.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:36 AM
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13. A ally? The support for Ford might be an exception but
The AARP is nothing more than an large insurance agency that pretends to offer discounted rates for its members but they are nothing more than glorified con artists that sell insurance with premiums much hugher than your local agency..And yes I believe they are a right wing PAC for the most part..Maybe the AARP of yesteryear was OK but not this AARP of today.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:20 AM
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12. A Clever Marketing Ploy Playing On GOOP Malaise
I bet I could take a poll on DU and that at least 95% of the people here can't wait to vote on Nov. 7th (the other 5% will grumble all day about rigged machine, black helicopters and Karl Rove), but I suspect if we took a poll over in Freeperville or some other repugnican coven, the "likely" voters there would be far less.

Remember, this fear game is to "energize" a base that votes without thinking. Many vote against their better interests (especially the seniors) just because they've been so conditioned to vote for an (R).

If you watch the commercial close enough, it says "Don't vote until you get the truth"...this one about the scam medicare bill. For millions of seniors and us with elderly parents, you don't have to tell us about this nightmare...and my mother-in-law can't wait to vote either...voting a straight Democratic ticket as her appreciation for the GOOP's care of her "security".

There is a segment in the Repugnican party that is depressed...we see that in poll after poll. It's not as much as these people are flocking to our side (Democrats haven't deserved that yet), but are thinking of sitting this election out. Now some of these people we gladly want to stay home...and so does the AARP. If you're foolish enough to pay attention to the surface message without listening to what they say, I say these people shouldn't vote.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:33 AM
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14. I thought it was great ! Don't vote until you get informed!
To many idiots vote without having any idea what they are supporting.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:50 AM
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15. I like the ones that mimic the political ads...
and the candidate turns out to be
"Little Yappy Dog"
or "Bag of Leaves"

YAY! VOTE FOR CHANGE! VOTE FOR A BAG OF LEAVES!
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