Never mind the "collateral damage" general? Thats exactly right

[NNN0LHI]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/20/cnr.02.html

<snip>HARRIS: General Grange, are you suggesting that you absolutely have to launch some kind of assault on these militias, never mind the collateral damage that you know you're going to do as a result of that kind of an operation, but that you have to root them out, find them, root them out wherever they are if you're to have any hope of rebuilding these communities?

GRANGE: That's exactly right. The only thing right now, in a situation like this, that those that are violating the law of Iraq understand is ruthless pursuit. That's all they understand. And I would seal off the complete city. And I would go in, hopefully not do a lot of collateral damage, but if it happens, so be it.

HARRIS: Yes.

GRANGE: Because this is -- it's a test. This is going to be a deciding point, I think, on how Iraq's going to go. It has to be done.

HARRIS: General, you know the push back from the government has been to this point, you can't do it because of all the collateral damage. You will essentially flatten these cities and you can't do that.

GRANGE: We don't know that for sure. You don't know if it's going to be a Fallujah.

HARRIS: But you know that that has been the push back.

GRANGE: Of course. But that's the risk you take. Look, you can't have it both ways. If you want to win, there's certain things you have to do that are not appealing to everybody. But this is war. I mean, that's just the way it is. If you want to win, you have to be a bit ruthless with the enemy. And it's at that point right now. And hopefully, if you show resolve, if you seal the city off and if you mean it -- remember, we had these guys one other time before and we backed down and look what happened, they grew stronger and they came back again. It's going to happen again.

[saigon68]

1. Sounds like Genocide to me

Maybe this asshole will end up in the dock at the Hague

[Surya Gayatri]

2. Chilling, positively chilling...

Is this the "advice" the Shrub will hear at the conclave with his military advisors today? Weep for Iraq and our soldiers--inextricably thrown together into this living hell-hole. Thanks for finding & posting. SG

[emanymton]

3. Could Follow The Lesson Of Saddam And Use Gas To Soften ...

up the target area first. Then move your forces through the area with minimal resistance.

[dipsydoodle]

4. Whatever they do

they'll be sure to keep the film crews away. Regardless of that film will get out somehow or other and hopefully get posted. Just more evidence for the Hague. The "war" actually ended shortly after it started. Since then it's just been plain and simple punishment.

[pretzel4gore]

5. too bad the fukking iraqis never heard of video cameras

cellphones and the internet....hell they wouldn't want to adversely impact their boy george, now would they? (as recent usa/canadian/british/australian history has shown, the vast majority of people are bushlovers, adapted to local customs/specifications, of course - they only against injustice when THEY are the victim, otherwise, hohum...)
i feel sorry for god (allah) boy, did HE ever fukk up, creating humanity. maybe a touch more intrinsic decency in the specie might have made a difference, old timer!

[dipsydoodle]

6. They're are getting stuff somehow.

The levitating humvee in the week was posted on Orgish.com at the same time that the death of the marines was mentioned on the news.

[pretzel4gore]

7. i was being obnoxious....

it's probably a natural state or something...anyway, what really pisses me off is that while bush is known for a potty mouth, and a heavy smoker, who drinks until falling down drunk etc, NOONE takes video of it, or records it! - it's almost as if bush truly is a bed-by-9 pm type church going square! same with yassir arafat: why didn't he just walk up to the IDF and blow himself up, the world never believe any israeli excuse, but noooo, arafat died in a paris hospital bed. same with saddam; why didn't he just leave iraq on eve of US invasion/occupation, go to russia, or something? but NOOO! same with john kerry: why didn't he fight the phony '04 election, why did he even run if he wasn't going to fight it?
same with paul wellstone: surely he knew he was a target (he musta heard of mel carnahan, james hatfield, and a host of others?) yet he took his family on a doomed airplane...
to be evil is to be blessed in this world - i whine in my post that THAT seems wrong (though it seems very very few think so(?))

[dipsydoodle]

9. Thanks for the notes and mention of Hatfield

who along with Weller was a situation with which I wasn't aware. I've now bought Hatfield's "Horns and Halos" DVD and Greg Palast's "Bush Family Fortunes" too.
For some perverse reason if I find stuff on amazon.com but order on amazon.co.uk ,then even including the mail , by the time it reaches the UK it all works out cheaper - go figure.

[Toots]

8. The very first humans on the earth according to Bible killed each other.

Cain killed Able , that was one fourth of the population....

[dipsydoodle]

10. I came across a really weird article

on : http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/ years ago when I was bored and started rooting around for conspricacy theories on all manner of subjects. I tried finding it again recently but without success but I only tried this section : http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/prophecy.html.

The line was that Cain and Abel were the dual gods - forget about Adam and Eve who were only included in the Old Testament to make some sort of family sense. Cain was a god of punishment and retribution and Abel a god of forgivness, sweetness and light. Cane kicked out Able - didn't kill him which was just a euphemism. With only Cain about the Jews where destined to be forever punished by their own god - go figure. :)

[NNN0LHI]

11. 600,000+ dead Iraqi men, women and children so far

And this crackhead says its time to get really tough now. Damn the torpedoes...

Don