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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:17 AM
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"Liberals like to solve problems by throwing money at things"
I hear this all the time. My retort:

"Conservatives throw body bags at problems"
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:21 AM
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1. And money at themselves....n/t
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:23 AM
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8. Yeah or more apt...
Conservatives fail to solve problems by throwing money at their friends.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:45 AM
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24. That's right. n/t
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:14 AM
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27. Republicans like to play semantic games with words
and Republicans like to play hypocritical games too. Most Republicans will inject anger and disdain in their language to describe and disparage spending money on causes that help the less fortunate but will use different and positive language when they spend a lot of money on their authoritarian causes that do not help the less fortunate.

I just came up with a saying about a company Dick Cheney has a relationship with.


"A Hell of a burden - Halliburton"


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Avis Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:15 AM
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21. Changed my ways then
I don't want to throw money at Iraq. Hope the new democratic congress agrees.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:02 AM
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32. Conservatives throw money at their friends, and only at them.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:22 AM
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2. well,l hey at least we solve problems. What problems have their
conservatives solved in the last 6 years?
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:22 AM
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3. I represent that remark ,Money is either good or bad ,I'd rather Spend ...
than send children to an early grave ,and I don't have kids.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:22 AM
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4. That dog won't hunt. Repugs are the ones who have made earmarks
a high art form. Their idea of fiscal conservatism is throwing money at defense contractors, pharmaceutical companies, to Wall Street, lobbyists, to other repugs and settle at throwing body bags to obscure what they are doing.

They guys do not honestly think they can run on that fiscal conservative, small government shtick do they?
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:22 AM
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5. Or bombs. nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:23 AM
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6. Conservatives like to solve problems by throwing the people's money
into corporate coffers and the military industrial complex.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:00 AM
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19. Conservatives like to make problems WORSE by throwing the
people's money into their own pockets. . .
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:50 AM
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25. Yes, its worse but I was going on the general theme.
I don't think anyone will mistake that because the great lie that it will go into the people's pockets and empower or enrich them is exposed.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:23 AM
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7. ...and who do we have running gov't NOW?
Oh, I suppose Republicans don't LIKE spending all this money, the liberals are MAKING them...
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:24 AM
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9. .
That tactic obviously can't beat theirs that killed almost 2800 fellow Americans and around half a million Iraqis.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:27 AM
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10. At least we try to solve problems and fix things
all the Repugs so is spend money and break everything they touch.

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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:31 AM
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11. Conservatives like to ignore problems until they get costly to fix.
For example, international investors realize that business regulation is more cost effective then settling everything in courts, which is the libertarian solution to everything, but is very costly.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:35 AM
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28. Conservatives and Republicans ignore problems until people DIE
Edited on Sat Oct-21-06 10:39 AM by liberaldemocrat7
1. 9-11 where 3,000 people died as blowback because Bush threatened to bomb the Taliban into the Stone age in July 2001 because they would not go along with Bush's pipeline plans for Afghanistan. The Bush administration sat on this and said nothing about this secret failed oil diplomacy.

2. The 14 dead astronauts who died under 2 Republican administrations.

3. The thousands who died using Vioxx and other Medications because Bush's FDA looked the other way.

4. The thousands of people who died in their Ford Explorer SUVs with Firestone tires because the Republican congress would not regulate these companies for safety.

5. The 400,000 innocent people who died in Iraq.

6. The people who died in the Sago mine and other mines because the Bush administration looked the other way.

etc.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 12:07 PM
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35. ...but those people should take "personal responsiblity"! n/t
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:32 AM
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12. Good retort... Deserves a bumper sticker.
Sadly true.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:41 AM
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15. We should Cling to it ! The only thing that denotes Wealth is spending in,
Edited on Sat Oct-21-06 08:42 AM by orpupilofnature57
a totally Liberal way ,not hording ,stealing ,or killing with it but trying to buy Utopia ,a dream yes ,but better than the Nightmare of 15% having 85%.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:38 AM
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13. Trends in National Debt by administration show the truth.






Under Dems govt spending consistently goes down. Under rethugs spending skyrockets.


And this chart only shows Smirky's first four years. Take into account how far he he put us in the hole up to the present and the height of the chart would have to be doubled.




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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:41 AM
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14. Conservatives create problems so they can throw money at the rich
which compounds the problem, allowing them to throw more money at the rich.

Since 2000, the rich have gotten richer and the problems have gotten worse.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:44 AM
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16. Well Duhhh, the CEO (Cheney) of Halliburton is making the choices
Can anyone say "War Profiteering"?
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:47 AM
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17. At least we can count.
Dems didn't lose 9 billion dollars.

:eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:58 AM
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18. This is the first time I've heard that. Just ask about the current
deficit, and wonder who created that.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:00 AM
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20. money
I think you may be missing the point, the rethugs already have most of the money. their main goal is to break the gov. until all social services are provided by charity, and only by their largess will some jobs pay enough to live on. A perpetual upper class is the desire of these people. This is not new..
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:32 AM
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22. Conservatives like to solve problems by bombing things or incarcerating
people....never has worked, never will work.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:38 AM
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23. Massive increASe in US debt under Bush, surplus, debt being paid off under
Clinton.

There is no response typically.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:03 AM
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26. Watch out
for those Capitalist Imperialist Counter Revolutionary Liberals!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:58 AM
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29. Your retort should be: That's because money DOES solve problems
Edited on Sat Oct-21-06 11:02 AM by alcibiades_mystery
If you're deck is water-damaged and beyond repair, what do you do? You SPEND MONEY to get a new deck.

Problem solved.

If your brakepads are worn out, and your car is undriveable, what do you do? You SPEND MONEY to get new brakepads.

Problem solved.

If education is breaking down because there are too many kids in each classrom, what do you do?

You SPEND MONEY to build new schools and hire more teachers. Fucking duh. What did Eisenhower do? He SPENT MONEY to build interstate highways that aided in commerce and opened up an era of free movement for millions. What happened throughout the 1960's? The government partnered with industry and spent money on intitiatives that eventually built the Internet. Why? To solve a number of communication and information distribution problems.

Money is nothing but a representative of social resources. If there is a social problem, yes, one needs to expend social resources on a solution. You damn skippy. What's the alternative? Pretending that the market, or voluntarism will solve the problem, or ignoring the problem altogether, thinking it will get better on its own.

Volunteers aren't going to magically fix your deck. The market isn't going to magically install new brake pads. And the problem of school overcrowding isn't going to magically go away. No. You need to expend social resopurces to deal with these things.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:22 PM
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36. How a conservsative solves the deck problem
They spend a ton of money telling you that the deck dosen't need fixed because the little guy does not need the money as much as the corporation, then when you bitch about it they blow something up and yell 'look over there!' and then send you off to war so you forget about the deck or die before you can get it fixed :)
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:00 AM
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30. Conservatives throw money at the military to solve things
And it is more expensive. And very indirect.

If we had spent what we spent on the military and aiding local warlords just directly aiding the Afghanis, they might not have been in such a mess that Al Qaeda could take refuge there.

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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:01 AM
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31. Republicans like to throw money at the rich and not solve any problems
That is all.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:03 AM
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33. king george likes to solve problems by ignoring warnings
responding too slowly

maximizing the carnage

spending more of our (and our children's and our grandchildren's) money than anyone in history
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:05 AM
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34. From people for whom money is a substitute for self-esteem, that's rich.
"Whomever dies with the most toys wins!" We have the worst public infrastructure of any "1st world" nation, imho. Public transit is almost non-existent. Our urban neighborhoods are slums and ghettos. Our public education can't compete with Japan's or Europe's. The wealthiest nation can't feed, heal, and house it's poor ... but the kids of the affluent get their own cars when they're 16 and have three generations of Playstations cluttering their closets.

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 08:48 PM
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37. CONservatives
don't solve problems they shoot off their big mouths but do NOTHING at all.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:07 PM
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38. Conservatives solve problems by blowing them up
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:10 PM
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39. money is being thrown by repub'z in astronomical numbers to solve...
problems they will never resolve...i get sick if that shit too
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