Is the Bush--Moon power fascist power nexus retreating

[happydreams]

to Paraguay in the event that Bush's party can't hold onto power?

The other day there was a topic at DU on the Bush family buying land in Paraguay. Well that just happens to be where Rev. Moon has also bought land.

....More recently, Moon has been buying large tracts of agricultural lands in Paraguay. La Nacion reported that Moon had discussed these business ventures with Paraguay's ex-dictator Alfredo Stroessner.

Moon's disciples fumed about the critical stories and accused the Argentine news media of trying to sabotage the newspaper's inaugural gala in Buenos Aires on Nov. 23. "The local press was trying to undermine the event," complained the church's internal newsletter, Unification News.

Given the controversy, Argentina's elected president, Carlos Menem, did decide to reject Moon's invitation. But Moon had a trump card to play in his bid for South American respectability: the endorsement of an ex-president of the United States, George Bush. Agreeing to speak at the newspaper's launch, Bush flew aboard a private plane, arriving in Buenos Aires on Nov. 22. Bush stayed at Menem's official residence, the Olivos. But Bush failed to change the Argentine president's mind.

Still, Moon's followers gushed that Bush had saved the day, as he stepped before about 900 Moon guests at the Sheraton Hotel. "Mr. Bush's presence as keynote speaker gave the event invaluable prestige," wrote the Unification News. "Father and Mother sat with several of the True Children just a few feet from the podium."

Bush lavished praise on Moon and his journalistic enterprises. "I want to salute Reverend Moon, who is the founder of The Washington Times and also of Tiempos del Mundo," Bush declared. "A lot of my friends in South America don't know about The Washington Times, but it is an independent voice. The editors of The Washington Times tell me that never once has the man with the vision interfered with the running of the paper, a paper that in my view brings sanity to Washington, D.C. I am convinced that Tiempos del Mundo is going to do the same thing" in Latin America.



http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon1.html

[tibbiit]

1. Remember, Rust never Sleeps

Thks, neil young
tib

[grasswire]

2. there was a real interesting article in a recent "The Nation"...

...on the shakeup going on in Moon's Washington Times newspaper. Racialism everywhere.

[C_U_L8R]

3. what are the beliefs of the moonies?

i know they are a cult but have no idea what they stand for.
Given they like republicans, they can't be all that good.

[LiberalEsto]

6. They believe Moon is a new Messiah

who is destined to rule the planet.

[happydreams]

9. "One world theocracy"

From original link:

One-World Theocracy
Despite growing disaffection among many longtime followers and other problems, Moon's empire still prospers financially, backed by vast sources of mysterious wealth. "It's a multi-billion-dollar international conglomerate," noted Steve Hassan, a former church leader who has written a book about religious cults, entitled Combatting Cult Mind Control. At his Internet site, Hassan has a 31-page list of organizations connected to the Unification Church, many secretively.

"Here's a man who says he wants to take over the world, where all religions will be abolished except Unificationism, all languages will be abolished except Korean, all governments will be abolished except his one-world theocracy," Hassan said in an interview. "Yet he's wined and dined very powerful people and convinced them that he's benign."

[MissWaverly]

20. I know someone who was briefly a member

that are very in to control and expect complete obedience, it is really like belonging to
them, there seems to be very little choice involved.

[Hoping4Change]

4. Thanks for postinig.

K&R

[happydreams]

10. Your welcome.

:hi:

[Tuesday_Morning]

18. Last week an article came out in Business Week

about Neil Bush's company educational software company Ignite! and his brand-spankin' new "Curriculum on Wheels" or COWs. He's making millions off of "No Child Left Behind" with the help of investors like Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal and onetime junk-bond king Michael R. Milken and purchases from ...you guessed it... the Rev. Moon.

No Bush Left Behind

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_42/b4005059.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_companies

Across the country, some teachers complain that President George W. Bush's makeover of public education promotes "teaching to the test." The President's younger brother Neil takes a different tack: He's selling to the test. The No Child Left Behind Act compels schools to prove students' mastery of certain facts by means of standardized exams. Pressure to perform has energized the $1.9 billion-a-year instructional software industry.

<snip>

The $3,800 purple plug-and-play computer/projectors display lively videos and cartoons: the XYZ Affair of the late 1790s as operetta, the 1828 Tariff of Abominations as horror flick. The device plays songs that are supposed to aid the memorization of the 22 rivers of Texas or other facts that might crop up in state tests of "essential knowledge."

<snip>

[happydreams]

30. More good stuff. Thanks.

:hi:

....The stars haven't always aligned for Bush, but at times financial support has. A foundation linked to the controversial Reverend Sun Myung Moon has donated $1 million for a COWs research project in Washington (D.C.)-area schools. In 2004 a Shanghai chip company agreed to give Bush stock then valued at $2 million for showing up at board meetings. (Bush says he received one-fifth of the shares.) In 1988 a Colorado savings and loan failed while he served on its board, making him a prominent symbol of the S&L scandal. Neil calls himself "the most politically damaged of the brothers."...

[seemslikeadream]

5. Payback

:hi:


http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif115.html

[happydreams]

15. More good stuff from Robert Parry. Thanks.

:hi:

[AntiFascist]

7. What would mainstream Christians think if...

the Bush family turned out to be Moonies?

[WinkyDink]

12. They already ARE Moonies.

[happydreams]

13. See picture of Moon hugging Falwell

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/u01.html

[blm]

25. Christians have been duped for two decades and are ALREADY moonies,

themselves. All of that regimen they have been under for decades now, is from the Moonie playbook, and fostered by Christian leaders who have been trained themselves to accept and impose the regimen. That's why so many fundies find themselves estranged from other family members.

[happydreams]

8. The pro-nazi dictator of Paraquay Alfredo Stroessner and Moon

and Joseph Mengele.

Stroessner just died this past August at the age of 93. He lived in exile since 1989 and avoided continuous efforts at extradition for terrorist activities.

Stroessner showed definite sympathies to ex-Nazis and ex-Fascists, many of whom were in the approximately 200,000 Germans who came to Paraguay after the World War II, a group that included the infamous Dr. Josef Mengele, whom Stroessner repeatedly denied extradition requests to Israel. After twice denying extradition requests for Mengele, Stroessner was heavily criticized by the world media. Stroessner also used ex-Fascist officers and soldiers in the army of Paraguay, some of whom belonged to the Ustaše like the army officer Baresíc.<1>




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Stroessner

[peace_on_earth]

22. Extradition treaty w/Paraguay - Interesting

The extradition treaty with US and Paraguay:



Article IV incorporates a

political offense exception to the obligation to extradite. Article

IV(1) states generally that extradition shall not be granted for a political

offense. The article expressly excludes from the reach of the

political offense exception several categories of offenses:

(a) a murder or other willful crime against the physical integrity

of the Head of State of one of the Parties, or of a member

of the Head of State’s family;

(b) an offense for which both Parties are obliged pursuant to

a multilateral international agreement to extradite the person

sought or submit the case to their competent authorities for decision

as to prosecution; and

(c) a conspiracy or attempt to commit the offenses described

above, or participation in the commission of such offenses.

Article IV(2) provides that extradition shall not be granted if the

competent authority of the Requested State determines that the request

was politically motivated.

Article IV(3) provides that the Requested State may refuse extradition

for offenses under military law that are not offenses under

ordinary criminal law (for example, desertion).

http://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-usa-pry.pdf page 6

Also check this out - allegedly Jenna Bush goes on secret diplomatic mission (wtf?), military bases right near Bush's alleged new property, etc.:

http://wonkette.com/politics/george-w.-bush/we-hate-to-bring-up-the-nazis-but-they-fled-to-south-america-too-208549.php

[happydreams]

26. Excellent dig on that. Welcome to DU

extradition will not be granted for a political offense

I can see it now: Bush in Paraguay, having been tried and convicted in absentia, says its all about politics.

[happydreams]

11. Orrin Hatch's song to Reverend Moon

On the early Sunday morning of May 18, 2003, the high priests of Rev. Sun Myung Moon, owner of the Washington Times and Religious Right enigma, gathered over a grave near Jerusalem (left) to hold a funeral for the Christian cross. They had been touring the Middle East in the name of peace. They proposed Moon's teachings as the glue for Jews and Muslims, bewildering locals, and they held briefings on Mideast policy for the State Department, or so they claimed. They networked with politicians. And steam gathered for a big, big finale.
They buried the cross because it was Satan's icon, Moon said, cleaving Jew from gentile, Christian from Muslim. Moon demanded a new symbol that everyone could agree on: the Crown of Glory. In February and March, 2004, on Capitol Hill, U.S. politicians would attend two ceremonies celebrating this gospel, the last climaxing with the selfsame Crown Of Glory lowered onto the Times owner's head. (Video here, Washington Post link for those of you new to this story -- and a big welcome for Farkers.)

A surprising figure wrote a song especially for the crown tour, according to the Reverend's flock. That's U.S. senator, Christian recording artist and longtime Moon friend Orrin Hatch (R-Utah).



http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/9/29/03943/6196

[AntiFascist]

14. How blatant can they be? Christians turning anti-Christian....

It sounds like the Wealth TV logo:

http://www.wealthtv.net/

A crown with a big W.

[Karenina]

16. Speaking of crowns...

And an explanation of the above...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04179/337795.stm

[AntiFascist]

17. There is another organization that explains all the fascist connections...

the World Anti-Communist Leaque, through which Moon has also obtained incredible control through his church in Asian countries. This would also explain potential connections to Abramoff, North, and various other Iran-Contra/drug money laundering figures.

[happydreams]

27. Yep. This is the way to work a thread.

[happydreams]

24. I was looking for that. Thanks.

This is beyond bizarro. :crazy:

[Karenina]

31. Spread it far and wide!

Even unenquiring minds respond to pix!

[smoogatz]

19. This whole Bush/Moon/Paraguay thing is too creepy for words.

Although, correct me if I'm wrong, at the moment it appears to be based on rumor rather than fact.

[happydreams]

28. Yea, the original post is speculation on my part, but

the Moon-Bush connection and Stroessner stuff is all fact.

[upi402]

21. Yep, the Bushler has expanded his cult following

The satanists wont fall for it though, I'm sure.

[formercia]

23. I had the same thought

This is their backup where they can hide, safe from extradition and have a BX close by. Hey, that's an idea, get them when they go to the BX.

[happydreams]

29. Related topic. Guardian article. This is getting interesting.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2458394&mesg_id=2458394