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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:41 PM
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Fire damages Fort Meade office building ('sensitive' materials)
Oh, goodness. I certainly hope there was nothing too seriously damaged. Maybe a simple case of Bush Lightning.

BRIAN WITTE
Associated Press
FORT MEADE, Md. - A fire at the Army base that houses the National Security Agency heavily damaged a building containing "sensitive" materials Friday afternoon, base officials said.

There were no serious injuries, officials at Fort Meade said.

The six-alarm fire at Fort Meade started shortly before 4 p.m. in a building whose contents are "sensitive in nature," said Fort Meade spokeswoman Jennifer Downing.

The building contains the 902nd Military Intelligence Group Command, the Army's largest counter-espionage unit, according to the group's Web site.


http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/breaking_news/15811725.htm
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:44 PM
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1. everything is 'sensitive' or not-for-the-public or downright Secret
under this administration.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:45 PM
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2. Gotta start covering their tracks .... the dems are comming
fire proof files ????
computer back ups stored off sight ?????
sprinklers ????????????

National Security Agency heavily damaged a building containing "sensitive" materials =
spying on Kerry in 04
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:10 PM
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3. There Was A Thread on This Yesterday As It Was Breaking Live
Edited on Sat Oct-21-06 10:11 PM by Beetwasher
It was a huge fire, and, IMO, it's a very interesting occurrence in what must obviously be such a high security structure containing very sensitive material dealing w/ NatSec.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2444463
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:15 PM
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4. Look what anthrax did for the offices of the National Enquirer
What pictures of naked, drunken, fuckstick stoopid George W Bush dancing on tables?
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Peregrine Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:37 PM
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6. It was a building built in the early 50's
with early 50's fire suppression and made secure by blocking in windows. Hell, they are still working to get the asbestos out. Not every intelligence office is like what you see on TV. The wiring is over 50 years old, the walls probably have more than 50 layers of paint, some areas actually used shredded paper for insulation. The two months when my office was in the basement, we actually named the rats that showd no fear of us.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 09:31 AM
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13. Any Event That Destroys Sensitive Doucuments
At this point in time is an interesting occurrence.

As for your other claims, I take anything said by anonymous posters on the internet w/ a grain of salt. You say you worked there? Ok, but don't expect me to just take your word for it.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:25 PM
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15. "Nothing to see here. Move along, people". (see post #14)
Just a bunch of regular joes.
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Peregrine Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:26 PM
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5. That is where my office used to be
On the first floor. And not a single minute of my time was spent covering up for an administration, I know it is a shock, but Military Intelligence actually has a real and important job in the defense of the country. I know many of you think we spend most of our time tortuing POWs, but we only do that on weekends for fun. On weekdays we analyzed information that was taken from someone trying to sell weapons information to another government (friendly, unfriendly, and axis of evil) to try to find out where the information came from.

Sometimes we are tracking down a couple drunk NCO's who claim to be planning to bomb a military target. Other times I was crawling around in a dumpster (in a suit) because some numb nuts threw away the operations manual to a secure communications system.

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:50 PM
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7. Intel Agency hiring once went through Fort Meade - and there was an
underground complex that was amazing.

If that is still operating I just hope that the elevator/etc was not damaged.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 10:53 PM
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8. Agent Mike... you shouldn't have :-)
and just in case...the world thanks you
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dubykc Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 11:26 PM
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9. Anybody wanna bet that any NSA documents...
the new democratic congress may subpeona were mysteriously in that building?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 12:08 AM
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11. I would pretty much bet my house on it. nt
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:56 PM
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21. i'll put the deed up right now!!!...you bet!!..n/t
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 12:08 AM
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10. Raygun and Nixon shredded their papers, *ss is just burning all
of them.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:24 AM
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12. Paraguay, Ft. Meade...Do they see the writing on the wall? EOM
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:06 PM
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14. Well well. Did their website pages catch fire, too? A few now missing.
They were available the day of the fire. See the thread of that day, post #22, that had the link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2444463



Googling around, many other sites around the internet had linked and sourced information at their website as well. Eg Raw Story had an active working link within their story at the time to another page of overview.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Blog_Sixalarm_fire_at_Maryland_building_1020.html

That page, too, was apparantly consumed by the fire.


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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:29 AM
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16. kicking nt
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:49 PM
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17. Double-kick. n/t
PB
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:54 PM
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20. Good catch, chill.
.
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Keepontruking Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:53 PM
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18. OK people
Just Fess up and we will go easy on you ....Chuckles and
Giggles ...think they set it themselves to get rid of
incriminating evidence...H<MMMMMMMMMMMMM????????  Circus
Girl
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 04:53 PM
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19. ahhh yes burning all the election info from the 2004 election and * spying on kerry!!
and all the other congress dems!!

gotta burn it all now dontcha little lord pissy pants..tooo much to shred so just burn it all down right pissy pants and kkk karl???

they are very worried!!

sweating balls ....nasty sweating balls!!!!!!!!

all over in the repub party!!

hiding all their blackmail stuff...and 9/11 stuff...yep i can see it all now...

fly
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:35 AM
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23. Agree with every word, flyarm.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:00 PM
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22. Back To The Old Stand-by Nazi/PNAC Playbook...
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 06:12 PM
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24. 902nd MI is a Counterintelligence Command
Counterintelligence people do three things: catch spies, make sure classified items remain safe, and do security investigations.

They also drill their way into people's safes when the dipshits change the combination on the lock then shut the door without checking their work.

The 902nd MI is THE most widely dispersed MI unit in the Army. There is a 902nd MI Field Office on every Army base in the United States. There are a handful of special agents, led by a Special Agent in Charge, working at each one of these places. And, for even more entertainment, the 902nd MI also has special agents at each of the 65 Military Entrance and Processing Stations in America, to begin processing recruits' security clearances. And ALL of those people's work eventually ends up at Fort Meade.

The building that caught fire? It's probably got enough room in it for a year's worth of the 902nd MI's work. There's everything from Agent Reports on temporarily-lost sensitive items (if the item is "sensitive" enough, like a crypto device or something, and someone loses control of one for any length of time, you've got to report it to the CI folks, and they generate an Agent Report...in triplicate...) to investigation working papers to just normal Army bullshit. This is the wrong command to have anything on the Bushies. The building's also not secure enough to handle anything from the NSA--not to mention the fact that "need to know" precludes a CI guy from ever seeing communications intelligence.

Now! Why'd the building catch fire? Guys, this is a 50-year-old building owned by an MI unit (MI units are the low man on the totem pole when it comes to getting anything out of the Facilities Engineers--the Laundry and Bath platoon can get its whole barracks replaced three times before the MI can get a light bulb changed, and this is from personal experience) that's full of 50-year-old electrical equipment and which contains about 30 tons of paper. If there's anything a CI puke knows how to do, it's generating paper by the fucking bushel...and we're discussing a command that contains most of the CI pukes in the Continental US. Paper fires are extremely hot. It is not out of the realm of possibility to think...umm, maybe an arcing electrical device caught some of that paper on fire?
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