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Sun Oct-22-06 11:21 AM
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Somebody here said he smokes. That's the Kiss of Death at DU. The guy's career is finished. Case closed. :popcorn:
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:22 AM
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1. LOL! You got that right. |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:23 AM
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2. That's why he's so short. |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:27 AM
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7. Yeah, they say it 'stunts your growth'. |
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I prolly would have been 7'8" instead of my puny 6'3". ;-)
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:25 AM
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3. It just means that he is ... |
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... morally reprehensible and should die.
Actually I think the guy quit ... but, if he doesn't find other smokers to be the scum of the earth ...
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:26 AM
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:31 AM
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13. I haven't been reading much compassion toward addicts here lately |
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Especially those addicted to tobacco products
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:51 AM
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36. Ohhhhhhhhh I smoke, therefore I sin. |
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I could be lookin to become a faith-based entity to beat the tax man so will that get me dispensation for my sin of self gratification?
:dilemma:
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:47 AM
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32. Most of us who have (knock on wood) QUIT have disappointing "relapses" |
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Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 11:47 AM by ShortnFiery
during times of stress.
Dammit, it sucks but nicotine eases anxiety. However, no one who cherishes their health continues to smoke.
Like with other drug addictions (alcohol is a drug), RELAPSES are a part of the recovery process.
To all you former smokers: you have not truly QUIT but "working your program" of recovery.
All of us so called ex-smokers are tempted from time to time. Come on, look within and be honest - once in a while, you are tempted?
I fault no one who has a relapse. If he has started again, I have faith in Jon's intelligence that he will make a dedicated effort to stop and continue recovery. :hi:
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:57 AM
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37. Actually I'm a former smoker, too |
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I guess I should have included the :sarcasm: thingy in my reply.
What you say is true ... recovery from addiction is a lifelong process. I've had more than my share of slip-ups ... I'm not sure that one's ability to quit is linked to intelligence.
As a former smoker I just can't muster sanctimony (actually I don't want to) I am NOT suggesting that you are sanctimonious ... addiction is a horrible thing (be it heroin, cig's, alcohol...) I feel compassion and would want to offer support.
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:22 PM
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41. I completely understand and agree ... |
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Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 12:24 PM by ShortnFiery
We're all of like, and compassionate minds. :hi:
I'm certified in Addiction Counseling but feel humbled to assist people who are doing their best to recover from addiction. I think that I'm a better counselor because I am a recovering Nicotine addict. What I have learned is that Alcoholism has a definite genetic component. Don't get me wrong, if you're dedicated, you can drink yourself into alcoholism - but it does run in families.
My best friend will not drink at all out of fear that she will be like many members of her immediate family, i.e., alcoholic.
I'm off topic but just wanted to convey - like many of us who can NOT ever have one cigarette again without the danger of immediate relapse - many people can't have one drink without relapsing. What is difficult - is the process of discerning the difference between Alcoholism and Problem Drinking in our young people. :shrug:
Addiction is horrid! I've encourage young people to NOT EVER start smoking in order to forgo the pain of dedicating oneself to a lifetime recovery program.
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:39 PM
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46. I know that the tendency for alcoholism is familial ... |
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... I wonder if the tendency for chemical addiction is the actual familial tendency?
I come from a long line of alcoholics ... I was aware of this from a very early age and believe I "convinced" myself that the sensation one feels when drinking alcohol are unpleasant ... I have raised my children to believe that we come from a long line of addicts and that addiction to "something" is very likely if they are not aware...
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:26 AM
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4. I could swear he's mentioned being a fomer smoker |
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Did he start again?
Or is this post just flame bait? I've been avoiding all the smoking threads because I am a former smoker.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:31 AM
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12. Bait de Flambe'? Moi? |
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Mais, NON!
But I do plead guilty to 'ribbing'. *hangs head in shame*
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:27 AM
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6. OMFG! This is hUGH!!11! |
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Next we'll find out that this one time, he had a drink and exceeded the speed limit in his SUV while eating a fast-food burger with fries made from genetically engineered potatoes.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:28 AM
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11. OK. Now THAT'S piling on. |
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Jeez. Kick a guy when he's down. ;-)
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:33 AM
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just wait until the report comes out showing that not only did he fail to recycle his beer cans, he flicked a cigarette butt out the window while on his way to a NASCAR event.
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:39 PM
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45. You forgot he did that while..... |
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talking on his cell phone
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:28 AM
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9. Well, if you want to consider the fact that he's probably going to die |
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from cancer, its not good. On the other hand, he isn't a member of my family so I don't see why I am supposed to criticize him about it.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:28 AM
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Just because some of us won't defend smoking, or abide by defenses of the habit, doesn't mean we hate smokers.
I'm capable of loving a smoker. In fact, in college, we had a saying - "If she smokes, she..." er, nevermind. :eyes:
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:32 AM
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14. People he quit smoking in 2000! |
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Stop with the bullshit already.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:32 AM
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16. Right, he mentioned it on the show. n/t |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:32 AM
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17. Well I read it HERE, and I believe it! |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:33 AM
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:25 PM
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43. OK, who did it? WHO DID IT? |
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Put 'em up! I'll moiduh thuh bum!
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:43 PM
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Sun Oct-22-06 01:18 PM
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52. Oh jeez. Did I forget that pesky *sarcasm* sign again? |
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Oh pooh. It was right around here somewhere. Oh...THERE it is... :sarcasm:
Did you know the word "gullible" is not in the dictionary? Now if we only had a smiley for :housefallingonsomeone: ;-)
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Sun Oct-22-06 01:19 PM
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53. I don't think the sarcasm sign would have helped |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:42 AM
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25. I don't think that is really pertinent to the OP .... |
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My take on the OP (op'er correct me if I'm wrong) was that it was ridiculous to vilify a person soley related to whether they are addicted to cig's.
I think we all know cigarette smoking is very deleterious to your health (and those around you) ... does that mean smokers are stupid or evil? I come down on the side that indicates that they are addicts that made a poor choice in their youth (I don't know anyone that started smoking later in life), when they felt invincible and now pay the consequences with a very strong addiction.
There seems to be very little affordable help for cig addicts and my understanding tis that nicotine is extremely addictive.
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:24 PM
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:32 AM
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and a smoker. I am taking the newest anti-smoking prescription drug - Chantix. It's only been 4 days on this med, but I am hopeful that I will quit. It is $120 a month for about 2 to 3 months, but very much worth it.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:40 AM
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22. Sorry, you haven't quit at all |
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You said, "only been 4 days on this med, but I am hopeful that I will quit". You can't be hopeful that it will just happen TO you. You have to take control. It has to come from inside. You have to KNOW! Don't even bother quitting yet. Seriously, just enjoy every puff right now till it's time. You will know. I smoked for many years, heavily. Quit many many times. One day I looked at a full pack and said, that's it, I will never smoke again for the rest of my life, and threw them in the garbage. No will power involved.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:46 AM
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30. Don't Be So Naive And Arrogant To Think That What Worked For You Will |
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work for everyone. Quitting is an extremely personal event that changes dramatically from person to person. Just because you had some certain calling one morning doesn't mean someone else will. Someone else might need medication or otherwise to assist them, no matter how mentally strong they are trying to be. I think it was completely wrong for you to tell that poster that they can't be hopeful. Of course they can be. Some will try patch after patch and pill after pill and none were good enough in combination with their will power to kick the habit. So with each new med comes new hope that this time, combined with whatever will power the person has, it will be enough to kick the habit. Don't be so quick to dismiss somebody else's attempts at quitting because they don't align with how YOU kicked the habit.
Fact is, all any of us should ever be is 100% supportive of anyone trying, and encourage them as much as we can to keep it up. Anything else only hurts, not helps.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:57 AM
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38. The med works on the nicotine receptors |
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in your brain, so it is suppose to make smoking taste bad. I am a nurse who has spoken with the drug reps selling this drug and they have had success with this drug. I have quit before as well, many times and for long periods. This med is suppose to kick in after one week. I am very willing to stop smoking or I wouldn't have made a trip to the doctor to get the prescription, so I am confident that I am in a place in my life where I want to quit. Thanks for your concern and words of wisdom.
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:02 PM
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Most of the time I spent as a smoker, I also worked as a "Hospice Nurse"
Did you ever try Wellbutrin?
Keep us posted on how the drug helps ....
Good luck!
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Sun Oct-22-06 01:11 PM
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51. Yes, Wellbutrin worked great |
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but then I would get stressed out and tell myself that I needed a vice and I would start smoking again. I tried Wellbutrin a few times, and each time it was less effective. Chantix is newest anti-smoking drug in 10 years. This time I think that I can do it because I am older and more sure of myself. Plus I'm tired of being tired, so I think health is a good motivating factor. Also, I'm dating again and most guys don't want to date a smoker according to the profiles that I have been looking at on the dating sites.
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Sun Oct-22-06 01:26 PM
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Good luck (dating and quitting smoking) ... both are experiences I have had (beginning at age 40, now 44) Both will be good for you!
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Sun Oct-22-06 05:57 PM
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I'm 43 and hoping to quit smoking and get laid by a sexy liberal man.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:48 AM
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Over a very short period, you'll be able to recover your losses by not buying tobacco products.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:49 AM
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Hang in there. I know how hard it must be for you but it sounds like you're off to a great start! Best of luck to ya and congrats on taking this difficult step!
:toast:
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:29 PM
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44. I wish you luck - work your own program ... |
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If or when you give in and have a smoke, please know that all is not lost - you can return to recovery - it's never too late!
I know it's very difficult and everyone must overcome and continue to recover in their own way. :hug:
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:33 AM
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The guy's not the hero everyone thought he was.
Time to boycott. Maybe deport him?
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:36 AM
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21. Now yer talkin'! Get the pitchforks. |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:41 AM
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looks like my'zealotry' obscured reality. I was so sure he was a Canadian. Turns out we're both from New Jersey. Which explains it all.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:47 AM
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33. Clearly he just isn't *good* enough to be one of us. |
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I hear that he is also guilty of being a heterosexual male. And that means he is addicted to the the evil demon drug TESTOSTERONE!!!
Off with his genitals!!!
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:41 AM
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:43 AM
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28. Not to mention UNCLEAN!!!! |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:42 AM
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26. yeah if you read Obama's autobiog he admits he did cocaine |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:42 AM
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27. Cute! I don't think so. :P n/t |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:46 AM
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29. Nah, they'll rationalize watching him still. |
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:46 AM
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31. Nah, it would only be the Kiss of Death if he were to use his show |
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as a platform to whine about how oppressed he is as a nicotine addict.
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Sun Oct-22-06 11:59 AM
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39. How do you drive John Stewart crazy? |
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Hide his car keys on top of the refrigerator.
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:40 PM
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47. As I stated on another thread........... |
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Jon Stewart quit smoking. Here is a link stating this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829537/bioBiography for Jon Stewart <snip> Trivia Decided to quit smoking on Dec. 28, 2000, after being encouraged by the CGL Foundation.
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:45 PM
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49. A nice Rye, no doubt. . . . . . . n/t |
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Sun Oct-22-06 12:54 PM
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Maybe I'll see him in the unemployment line?
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