The Next War

[Pharaoh]

By Daniel Ellsberg.

10/22/06 "Harpers" -- -- A hidden crisis is under way. Many government insiders are aware of serious plans for war with Iran, but Congress and the public remain largely in the dark. The current situation is very like that of 1964, the year preceding our overt, open-ended escalation of the Vietnam War, and 2002, the year leading up to the U.S. invasion of Iraq

http://harpers.org/TheNextWar.html

[lcordero2]

1. !!!!

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HJ19Ad01.html

It's not good to push our luck with Russia or China.

Kind of doubt that it will happen.

Putin already told Olmert to go screw himself and the jails will be overflowing with draft resisters.

Sad thing is that all of these draft resisters will be completely right since the choice would be in between poverty or being killed or maimed with more severe poverty coming afterwards.

[Pharaoh]

2. Yes of course

it is all quite insane, but that's what were up against.:shrug:

[lcordero2]

4. I found part 2 of the article

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HJ20Ad01.html

[AntiFascist]

3. K & R ...

every neocon should read this Asia Times article. The US needs to fear the China-Russia-Iran axis.

[Bucky]

5. It's sad, because Iran naturally should be OUR ally.

In fact, in wiser years we've managed to keep Russia and China more worried about each other than chummed up to work against us. I still don't think there's a Moscow-Beijing-Tehran axis, as such. But they definitely have their interested dovetailed right now due to Bush & Cheney's bumbling. The long term consequences of all these relationships the neocons has squandered are hard to imagine. Rightly managed, the American "virtual empire" could have remained supreme and unmatchable in world power for two or three generations.

Empires fall because (among other reasons) the allow their competitors to gang up on them. Empires that endure in history are those that play their rivals off against each other. I don't think this country is close to falling. But by failing to work with allies to secure a balanced world order, we've ensured that others see it in their interests to resist us at every step along our way. The cost of that error will be measured in human lives.