Why don't WE say it? If Republicans win, it's a victory for al Quaeda

[Poiuyt]

After all, the NIE has shown that the Iraq War is making terrorism worse. It's clear to me that if a Republican candidate wins, the terrorists win. They will come and rape our womenfolk, eat our babies, and murder us in our sleep. We need to vote for the Democratic candidates who will protect our borders instead of making terrorism worse.

A vote for a Republican is a vote for a terrorist.

[MirrorAshes]

1. I don't think you come out and say it like that

but you certainly drive the point home. we've got facts and the truth on our side, and thats scary enough. if we meet them with rhetoric like that it could backfire.

[onenote]

2. as tempting as it is, its just not our way to be as stupid as the repubs

being stupid comes naturally to them, while we're just not good at making it sound sincere like they are.

[Doctor_J]

5. Which is why we'll be in the minority forever

until this ridiculous mindset changes.

[Nolo_Contendre]

3. Al-Qaeda recruiting poster

[Doctor_J]

4. We never say the dirty truth

The GOP just keep piling the shit up higher and higher, like the Limpballs quote, the racist ad in TN, the swift boating. Our team never really plays rough enough. 15 days from now will be too late. I would just like to see an ad that says "George Bush is a liar and a coward. He ran away from trouble during Viet Nam, and whil ethe country was under attack on 9/11/01. He played his guitar while NOLA washed away. Let's rein him in with a Dem Congress".

[StraightDope]

6. Because we shouldn't stoop to their level..

My $.02

[sandnsea]

7. Because we don't really believe that

At least the part where they'll come get us in our sleep if we don't get 'em over there. The reason they win is they say stupid shit their voters believe.

I think we believe in ratcheting up covert operations along with changes in diplomatic relations including demands that things like the madrases are halted. Much like policing in our own country, as long as people want retribution instead of real security, we're going to have a tough time getting the knuckle-draggers to believe that pure muscle alone never won a secure anything. It's always the diplomacy after a war that brings real peace.

[Hippo_Tron]

8. You pretty much summed up how I feel about it

Fighting terrorism involves a combination of diplomacy and covert police actions. Unfortunately the GOP strategy of "We will shake their resolve by showing America's willingness to stay the course in Iraq" or "We will fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here" makes for a much better slogan.

Of course it takes a moron like the one we have in the White House to believe that people who strap bombs to their chests are going to be intimidated into stopping because America continues to demonstrate its might in Iraq. Attempting to intimidate the terrorists isn't going to stop them, especially when we're doing a pretty shitty job of it. The only way to stop them is to systematically capture or kill their leaders. On that note it's a damn good thing that we got Osama Bin Laden dead or alive. Oh wait...

[BlooInBloo]

9. It only works if the media is on your side.

[The Count]

10. THE STEALING OF THE 2000 ELECTION WAS ALQUEDA'S FIRST VICTORY

as W removed all the anti-terrorism measures Clinton put in place and ignored the warnings as Poppy was in business with the Bin Ladens through Carlyle.

[dapper]

11. Better yet, "Victory For Terrorists!"

I think that sounds better.

Dap

[Canuckistanian]

12. Got a point there

What was OBL's greatest grievance against the US before 9/11? Oh, yeah, the infidel had his troops in the holy land, Saudi Arabia.

That little problem was solved with the withdrawal in 2003:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2984547.stm

Then, he was allowed to escape to freedom in Tora Bora.

Then, one of his most hated enemies, Saddam Hussein (a secular Arab leader) was targeted, ousted and jailed.

Then, in an inadvertent public relations coup for OBL, the US brutally raped the country of Iraq and it's population, making the US almost an international pariah.

And, of course, OBL's followers and sympathizers ballooned to record proportions. Al Qaeda is NOW a force to be reckoned with in Iraq, the Taliban are gaining the upper hand in most of Afghanistan and Muslims worldwide have never been so anti-American.

Heckuva job, Chucklenuts.

[formercia]

16. OBL stated publicly that he hoped to provoke the US

into invading a Muslim country and initiating a Jihad. Fearless Leader did exactly what he wanted and it had the desired result.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/02/05/binladen.transcript/index.html

BIN LADEN: "This battle is not between al Qaeda and the U.S. This is a battle of Muslims against the global crusaders. In the past when al Qaeda fought with the mujahedeen, we were told, "Wow, can you defeat the Soviet Union?" The Soviet Union scared the whole world then. NATO used to tremble of fear of the Soviet Union. Where is that power now? We barely remember it. It broke down into many small states and Russia remained.

God, who provided us with his support and kept us steadfast until the Soviet Union was defeated, is able to provide us once more with his support to defeat America on the same land and with the same people. We believe that the defeat of America is possible, with the help of God, and is even easier for us, God permitting, than the defeat of the Soviet Union was before. "

[Fovea]

13. While your threat assessment is over the top

al qaeda and hezbullah learned from the Mujahedeen/Soviet war in Afghanistan.
Keep the enemy in the field, spending money, losing lives, pissing off the locals,
and dispiriting the home front.

It is the George Bush Sr. playbook, and Jr. is playing the wrong side of the scenario.
Little Bushie and his gang are doing *exactly* what the terrorists want. When we leave Iraq, if they
get their way, we will lack the resources to come back for at least a generation.

And we will be in the place Russia was in after the USSR collapsed.

[Poiuyt]

14. I was being a little sarcastic with my threat assessment

What's a little drama among friends? :)

Your analysis on the Soviets in Afghanistan is dead on. I think that had a lot more to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union than Reagan telling Gorbachev to "tear down this wall." Now Bush is playing right into theirs hands.

[smoogatz]

15. Oh come on now.

We all know that Republican incompetence, cluelessness, corruption and pedophilia are keeping us SAFE from terrorists--except when the terrorists attack us, and then it's Clinton's fault. Stop spreading these loony conspiracy theories. Why are you so angry and irrational and shrill?

[Sugar Smack]

17. "MAKE NO MISTAKE"

:rofl:

[Orsino]

18. Because it's not (much).

Republican rule is bad for everyone in the long run, and in the short run benefits only the very rich and al-Qaeda recruiters.