Ok du'ers I NEED YOUR ADVICE

[az chela]

I wrote a few comments on a book on amazon.com supporting Cindy Sheehan and about 8 days ago I started getting vicious email from someone who calls her self Julia hill.She is connected with the group Move America Forward and Melanie Morgan is the head of the group.
Some how this person got my email address ,full name and home address.
She sent me emails saying that my son was lucky to be dead rather than have a pathetic waste of human flesh like me for a mother.She also said Cindy and I should be deported.
She then put an email that Cindy wrote back in april on a site www.nuke.cxs2info/index.php which is a site that is a militia group that hates blacks,jews and muslims.She signed my name on the email that Cindy had written and also my email address and said she is reporting me to the fbi for posting alledged classified information.
She says she hates Cindy and would kill her if she gets the chance.
She has to be hacking into Cindy's email and then she sends it to me and changes the words.She said all muslims should be killed and bush needs to kill more muslims.She said it is better to kill the iraqi's than injure them.
I have printed out all her emails but cant find out who she is,I only know that when I mentioned the Move America Forward group on amazon she started emailing me.
I think I should contact the FBI but since they are part of the government and these people love bush I am not sure how to proceed with this.
If anyone knows who these people are or know what I should do PLEASE
let me know.
On the nuke site there is a picture of a man with a black ski mask and it says star of david and he is wearing a black vest and holding an AK47

[EFerrari]

1. Don't call the FBI, call the ACLU.

Maybe they can point you in the right direction.

These people are evil AND crazy.

:mad:

[radwriter0555]

2. You need to contact your local FBI office about this person. She's mentally

ill, clearly, and poses a menace to society.

Be careful, and also keep track of all the things going on here.

She's not hacking Sheehan's emails, the woman is fabricating emails and claiming they're sheehan's, so don't be fooled. Mrs. Sheehan isn't capable of such horrific actions.

Be careful.

[az chela]

9. She changes the emails that Cindy sent me moths ago and adds

her comments about killing al these people and the signs Cindy's name to it.The lady is a supporter of Melanie Morgan and Melanie wrote a book about Cindy that is filled with vicious lies

[SeattleGirl]

3. Good Lord! That is one sick woman.

Maybe you should contact your states' Attorney General's office, and talk to someone there. If they aren't the right place to contact, they might be able to steer you in the right direction. Hope you can get this taken care of.

[evlbstrd]

4. Yes, report it to the FBI.

It's a threat from out of your state, correct? Report it to your local police and every prosecutor you can, from city to county to state to federal. This is a serious crime.

[az chela]

11. I have no idea who this person is,might even be a man because of

the vicious language that is used.They got my email off of amazon,com when I wrote several comments saying to find out the truth about Melanie Morgan go to Move America Forward and I pissed off this group.They are all connected cause the names that are on the nuke site are on Melanies site.
I have no idea how they got my home address

[SaveOurDemocracy]

5. Contact the FBI

I would not ignore this.

What a twisted, hateful person ... I'll bet she considers herself a 'good Christian' too.

[az chela]

14. She loves bush and is a radical christian who hates the jews,muslims

iraqis,iranians

[SaveOurDemocracy]

18. how very Christ-like of her

:sarcasm:

[babylonsister]

6. az!

:hug:

[az chela]

21. Sorry I was not going to get DU involved but this is out of control

[Kali]

change your e-mail, notify Cindy and report it to police. DO NOT REPLY.

I would not even notify Cindy but I seem to recal that you actually know each other?

[az chela]

15. I have talked to Cindy about it for 2 days

She is suing Melanie Morgan about the book.She knows everything the emails say

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[seriousstan]

8. I call B. S.. This is WAY too trackable (is that a word?)

Nothing you have stated is credible for no other reason than being incredible. Who would give you this much evidence. B.S.

[EFerrari]

13. A stupid freeper. The same kind that gave me the info I needed

to track him and his three buddies to their front doors during the freeps' stalking Andy.

[seriousstan]

17. A sample of one does not prove a pattern.

Connect the dot.

I stay with the call of B.S..

[EFerrari]

19. Okay. n/t

[BuyingThyme]

10. I'm so sorry. It sounds like a crazy person, but also

like a coward. So hopefully s/he won't act out beyond the keyboard. That, of course doesn't make the threats any less serious.

I would also guess that it's not actually a woman you're dealing with, but a cowardly little man.

I wish you the best. I've dealt with crazies on the internet and know how it feels to get threats like this.

[Union Thug]

16. Agreed. They are keyboard warriors... Try this..

Pass along the headers of the email you receive, or just find someone who knows how to use net tools to trace the origin. Then, send the whole mess to their ISP and get them cut off.

[az chela]

20. they all belong to yahoo,melonie,move america forwardthe nuke site

and cant find any info on this person!!!!even checked the isp address.She made my daughter mad and my daughter emailed her because she said that ny son and Cindy's son were so lucky to be dead and so my daughter emailed her,I had told her not too but she got an email tonight calling her an illeterate fucking nigger and my daughter flipped out and really told her off and i asked not to please do not answer her again

[EFerrari]

22. Yahoo! has a Terms of Service agreement. This alleged person

has broken that contract. Contact Yahoo! abuse -- it's probably [e-mail]

[BuyingThyme]

24. Yes, if you figure out how to complain, they'll kill the account for sure.

I know, because I've had accounts closed just because I used the F-word and such. (That's against their rules.)

But that just means the nutjob will use another account.

[EFerrari]

25. Not at yahoo! And if "she" gets bumped enough

she'll have a harder time finding anyone to send her sh!t.

[BuyingThyme]

28. "Not at Yahoo" as in he won't be able to get another Yahoo account?

Anybody can get another Yahoo account.

[EFerrari]

30. Really? Even after some as egregious as this?

I've had disruptors tossed out of my group and they weren't able to come back. Maybe that was a different deal.

:crazy:

[BuyingThyme]

32. Unless one uses his or her real name, Yahoo generally

has no way of keeping track. I never use my real name because there's really no reason to do so.

[Union Thug]

26. They are connecting to yahoo from somewhere... and everything

on the internet is stamped with unique identifiers. Yahoo should be able to quickly establish her isp, and her isp can quickly positively ID her. I'm sure that what she is doing to you is WAY more than enough to have an account shut down...

[radwriter0555]

12. Interesting that the MAF website is identical to freerepublic.com?

http://www.moveamericaforward.org/

Same format.

Same amount of drivel and lies...

[Generic Other]

23. Can you block the person's email? Or put all the email in a file unread

Avoid the stress.

There must be some computer saavy DUers who can help you find the perpetrator. There are some tech wizards around here.

I am so sorry you are being targeted by this kind of hate trying to rattle you. Cowards. You are stronger though. Don't let the creeps know they can get to you.

Report them to their ISPs.

Finally, if there are threats, notify authorities.

[JeffR]

27. Kaloogian, who is one of the powers behind this site

Is the asshole who posted a picture of Ankara on his campaign website and tried to pass it off as Baghdad, if I'm not mistaken. If anyone remembers this better than I do, please correct my recollection.

[az chela]

29. Yes yes yes his name in all ove the move america forward site

who is he????

[JeffR]

34. A failed Republican candidate and a nutbag

Don't know much more than that.

[EFerrari]

37. Sloppy nutbag, don't forget sloppy.

lol

[JeffR]

38. Ewww... good point

;(

[BuyingThyme]

31. Yes, same guy. But if the crazy says s/he's linked to him,

s/he's probably not.

[az chela]

33. no he is on the move america forward site that malanie morgan runs

and thats who this person is part of

[Keepontruking]

35. Look

We can't run amok!  Paranoia is not our style, not all FBI
agents are the bad guys...go to the FBI and report it .  You
have yourself to worked up over this.  Calm down and meditate
on it.  It is scary ..YES...I would hate it..but it is written
word nobody is physically stalking you right now before they
get the chance to get to that point let the authorities do
their job .  You attny General is worthless!!  Forget Him!! 
Circus Girl

[Keepontruking]

36. P.S. If...

That doesn't work call in the mafia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EFerrari]

40. The mafia is probably more competent.

I seriously doubt the FBI is going to leap to help Cindy (against whom the threats were made).

Go to Yahoo!, go to their ISPs and then have Cindy turn this stuff over to her lawyers.

In the meantime, be sure you're not messing up her case. If you get into a back and forth with this nutcase, it will look like you are as much to blame as s/he is.

Really, these people are all bad typing and no cattle most of the time.

[az chela]

45. they dont even know I have told Cindy any of this

[EFerrari]

48. They do now. n/t

[az chela]

50. I doubt they are on Du

[EFerrari]

53. Think again.

It looks like someone wants a reaction from you and they're getting one. And more, if you post information to a public board that you don't want the public to have.

Been through this once myself, so word to the wise.

[az chela]

56. I never mentioned Du or even that I am a democrat and it is late and

I doubt they would be on this site at least they will know that they are going to be reported to the fbi and they better back off

[EFerrari]

64. The people harassing you likely monitor this site. Just

try not to post anything you don't want them to have.

Get some rest and good luck with this. If you need any help in the a.m., please feel free to pm me.

[BuyingThyme]

57. Yes, sfexpat2000 is right. And if you posted that Cindy letter

here, that's probably how they got it.

[az chela]

58. No I did not post any thing from Cindy they got the info from

amazon.com because I wrote several comments about the vicious lies that Melanie told about Cindy and I had my real name on Amazon,it has been for several years.I have now changed it

[BuyingThyme]

63. I reread your OP.

The crazy seems to have convinced you that s/he's hacking into Cindy's email. That's really not likely. It's more likely that the crazy is just sending you emails with a fake return address and or false headers.

[JeffR]

41. Just read your profile!

Thank you for everything you have done to make this damn country decent.:patriot:

[az chela]

46. I have a profile ???Where????

[JeffR]

51. Damn, I replied to the wrong post, az chela!!!!

My sincere apoligies. Given what you're going through, this was probably pretty unwelcome. My bad!

ON EDIT: This was supposed to be directed to keepontruking!

On 2nd edit: Wait a sec. I did direct it where I intended it. You replied to the wrong post.

:P

[az chela]

59. Well I am old and tired and fed up with this shit so forgive me

[JeffR]

62. Same for me, friend

and I ain't even the one going through this shit. Cheers!:toast:

[az chela]

44. I have it all printed out to take it to the fbi,That is what i have been

Planning,just wanted to see if anyone knew who these people are

[Warren DeMontague]

55. Only thing I can say for sure is, it's NOT Julia Butterfly Hill.

The real one is a beautiful person, and about about as far from a psycho right-winger as one can get.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Butterfly_Hill

[az chela]

60. I read that and that pig stole her identity

[BuyingThyme]

39. But how do you know that? Did they say so?

If they said so, it's probably not true.

[EFerrari]

42. You're probably right. This nutcase is probably not connected to

those other nutcases except in her/his desire to upset az chela and Cindy.

[Warren DeMontague]

43. Unless I'm mistaken, It is a felony to threaten people over the internet.

Particularly death threats. Contact the FBI.

[az chela]

47. I plan on doing that tomorrow

Anyone who knows who I am on here knows that my son died just before Casey Sheehan and I have adopted Cindy as my child.I would do anything for her and I would protect her with my life.She knows that!!!
When people attack her it destroys me.I just cant deal wirh it

[Warren DeMontague]

52. I may have missed the backstory. I'm so, so very sorry for your loss.

Contact the authorities ASAP and hang in there. You've got millions of people on your side.

:grouphug:

[az chela]

61. Thank you so much,that is why I turned to DU cause I love you guys

[Keepontruking]

49. Right

You can't threaten a persons life in any way shape or form
without it being taken serious now a day...look at all the
school shootings and random shootings...they don't mess with
these people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Circus Girl

[az chela]

54. Thats good to know and I dont know how seriously the fbi will

be about this but I feel I need to let them know.
I have blocked the senders emails and will never answer her again.That was where I made my mistake.When she attacked me and Cindy and said such evil things about it being good our sons were dead,i just lost it