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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 06:52 AM
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Sibel Edmonds Vindicated? FBI Investigation Continues!
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 07:10 AM by lukery
John Stanton has a new article which is being published in a number of places this morning about Sibel Edmonds' case entitled:

Sibel Edmonds Vindicated?
FBI Reveals Investigation Continues


Stanton was able to get an FBI spokesperson on the record saying :
"After the (Inspector General's) initial classified report, the FBI conducted further investigation into Ms. Edmonds' allegations. That investigation is continuing.""

That's great news!

From Stanton's article:

On October 10, 2006, FBI spokesman Bill Carter confirmed that matters raised by Sibel Edmonds and shielded form public view by the invocation of the US States Secret privilege were still under internal investigation by the Bureau.

"...The Inspector General's report concluded that the FBI did not adequately investigate allegations Ms. Edmonds made regarding a co-worker. After the OIG's initial classified report, the FBI conducted further investigation into Ms. Edmonds' allegations. That investigation is continuing."

Back in March of 2002, Edmonds was released from the FBI over her discovery of an array of espionage activities. Looking back, and with the benefit of new information from the FBI and elsewhere, it appears that the government of Turkey was spectacularly successfully in compromising FBI, CIA, DEA, DIA and (State Department) operations, and was also able to mount other espionage programs that allowed Turkish interests to obtain assorted military and WMD technology know-how, and garner US and Israeli military support for its bloody internal struggle against its significant and much maligned Kurdish population/opposition.

The Turks: Masters of Espionage

The Turks would not have been successful in staging what may be recorded as one of history's finest intelligence coups had it not been for many sympathetic US military personnel, bureaucrats and politicians who, whatever their egotistical reasons, believed themselves to be acting in the USA's best interests. Certainly, no one can accuse them of not effectively representing their powerful Turkish clients whether in defeating US Congressional action recognizing the Armenian Genocide or ensuring that US corporations close lucrative deals in Turkey.

The sympathizers names are now overly familiar: Douglas Feith, Brent Scowcroft, William Cohen, Richard Perle, Michael Leeden, Bob Livingston, Marc Grossman, Paul Wolfowitz, Eric Edelman, Richard Armitage, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Dennis Hastert, et al.


Stanton goes on to argue that Turkey's famed heroin industry, which supplies 95% of Europe's heroin and 15% of the heroin on US streets, is used to finance the procurement of WMD components, US defense technology and US politicians. As I outlined in this post earlier in the week, Daniel Ellsberg said that Sibel Edmonds claims that Hastert received "suitcases of cash" delivered to his home, "knowing that a lot of that is drug money."

Stanton then gives some background on Air Force LT. Col. Douglas and Melek Can Dickerson - the people who tried to recruit Sibel into the American Turkish Council espionage ring (background here or here).

(Doug) Dickerson was recently deployed to the Iraqi theater of operations where he heads up logistics matters for an element of the USAF. His handlers in the intelligence community apparently are happy about that and so must be the public affairs personnel who don't want anything to do with him.

In 2002, Dickerson and his spouse Melek Can left the country for Belgium and a quiet post with NATO after Edmonds' exposed them as Turkish operatives or, perhaps, US counterintelligence operatives. Dickerson and his wife's activities remain a mystery. According to various reports, they were once stationed in Ankara, Turkey in the 1990s, and had contact with Douglas Feith and Marc Grossman. Another report indicated that: in 1995, while in Turkey, Dickerson was the subject of investigation for accepting money from foreign agents, whereupon he was abruptly transferred to Germany. In 1999, Major Douglas Dickerson returned to the United States. His wife, Melek Can Dickerson, started to work for American Turkish Council (atc.org) and related Turkish American business groups.

In 2001, Dickerson was apparently given a position in the weapons systems acquisition arena with the Pentagon and US Department of State. Dickerson's areas of responsibility supposedly included Turkey, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan. He also had dealings with Edelman, formerly US Ambassador to Turkey, and now with the Pentagon's Policy Organization. Dickerson was also active with ATC and Scowcroft. He and his wife associated with several Turkish and American individuals from the Turkish Embassy and the ATC. Many of these folks were targeted by FBI counterintelligence for criminal activity. But thanks to the Turkish government's penetration of the highest echelons of the US political-military-intelligence-corporate apparatus, the Pentagon and US State Department forced the FBI to back off any criminal investigations that may expose criminal activity, and untidy and covert operations.


According to Sibel, Stanton's claim that the Dickerson were "perhaps, US counterintelligence operatives" has already been debunked. Senators Grassley and Leahy ruled it out after they met with the FBI & DOJ. It has been "100% confirmed that Dickersons' activities were related to the 'target foreign entities' not the US government."

FTR, Stanton continues:
Finally, there's the perplexing case of Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson. According to dozens of media reports, Valerie Plame was introduced to Joe Wilson by Brent Scowcroft at an ATC function. Shortly thereafter, the pair was invited to a Turkish Embassy function. Quickly after that, Plame's CIA WMD operation (Brewster Jennings) was exposed by then Under Secretary of State, Richard Armitage. Coincidently, Dickerson was in close proximity to Plame & Wilson in the 1999-2002 timeframe and the Pentagon and US State Department. It seems likely that only a Turkish operative located somewhere in the US government/intelligence community would have uncovered that information and disclosed it to the Turks and their US sympathizers. Was it Wilson? Dickerson? Armitage?

I'm not exactly sure what he is saying/alluding to here - or whether he is being coy, or something else - but I've included it here for the record.

And Stanton ends by dangling this:
More fallout is to come from the Edmonds' matter and the word in Washington, DC-Metro is that it will involve some individuals named in this piece.

I can only imagine/hope that he is pulling his punches here - and that he has something up his sleeve that he couldn't quite confirm. He mentioned many names in his article, most of whom we already knew were involved. Let's hope that he has something up his sleeve.

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Sidebar:
Those of you who have been paying attention to this story will know that The Cohen Group (former SecDef William Cohen) is a key player in the American Turkish Council and that Marc Grossman is a Vice Chairman at Cohen. Another Cohen Group Vice Chairman is General Joseph Ralston - Stanton notes that Ralston was appointed by G.W. Bush last month to be the Special Envoy in Turkey in 'dealing' with the Kurds.

Perhaps coincidentally, earlier this month Congress agreed to sell 30 F-16 fighter jets to Turkey worth $3 Billion. Perhaps coincidentally, Ralston is a board member of Lockheed Martin, which makes the F-16 - leading many to wonder why Ralston was chosen, and to wonder about the real nature of his real mission. Turkey has long been criticisedfor using fighter jets and attack helicopters to 'repress' the Kurds.

(Mizgîn at Rastibini has been doing great work following Joe Ralston's efforts in Turkey)
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 06:57 AM
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1. k&r
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:29 AM
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2. Those officials who helped Turkey,did they benefit from that assistance?
If yes, they should be tried for treason. It wasn't some obscure patriotism to America that drove them.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:42 AM
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7. treason
yep. sibel has often said that they should be tried for treason.

and yep - they are all getting kickbacks. cold hard cash - delivered in suitcases.
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:50 AM
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10. Maybe Not Treason...
...because I think there is a high standard for "treason". In fact, I think very few prosecutions for treason have ever occurred in the United States.

However, there are several other charges just short of treason these people could be tried on related to giving classified info to foreign nationals.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:18 AM
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21. clearly treason
i think that it's clearly treason, at least in layman's terms - you may be correct that it isn't prosecutable for one reason or other - but it's more than 'giving classified info to foreign nationals.'
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:02 AM
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12. Didn't I read that Hastert was one of the recipients?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:10 AM
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16. (my recollection, as well)
Clearly he was too busy with this to pay attention to any piddly, no-bucks, Foley concerns...
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:29 AM
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22. hastert got suitcases full
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:31 AM
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3. dkos version
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:36 AM
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4. Connection to Susan Ralston?
For Immediate Release
August 28, 2006
Contact: Jill Kosch (202) 689-7895







General Joseph W. Ralston (USAF, Ret.) Appointed by the U.S. State Department as
Special Envoy for Countering the PKK

Washington, DC -- The U.S. State Department announced today the appointment of General Joseph W. Ralston as a Special Envoy for countering the Kurdistan Worker’s Party (PKK). General Ralston is a Vice Chairman of the The Cohen Group, an international strategic business advisory firm based in Washington, DC.

The PKK is designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, Turkey and the European Union. The group has long terrorized Turkey. General Ralston’s role will be to work with Turkish and Iraqi leaders in creating an effective response to the PKK that will aim for the removal of this group as a threat to stability in Turkey and Iraq. This is a part time assignment, and he will remain in his role as Vice Chairman of The Cohen Group.

“I am honored to be selected to serve in this role,” General Ralston said. “This will be a challenging assignment and I look forward to working with Turkish and Iraqi leaders to resolve this problem.”

The Cohen Group Chairman and CEO, former Defense Secretary William Cohen said “I am pleased that General Ralston has been selected for this assignment that is very important to our nation as well as to the stability of Turkey, Iraq and the region. The Cohen Group is pleased that he has chosen to serve his country in this way.”

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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:44 AM
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8. i dont think so n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 06:04 PM
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30. No. Susan Ralston is married to a guy who works at the Keller Grad School
Susan is the eldest of four children of Teotimo D. Bonzon, originally from Rizal province in the Philippines, and Purificacion Lagman Bonzon of Quezon City. She’s married to Troy Alan Ralston, Regional Director of Operations for Keller Graduate School of Management." <6> (http://www.asianfortune.com/aug04/Articles/PROFILE%20Susan%20RALSTON.htm)
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:37 AM
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5. thank you...
for keeping us all updated on the Sibel saga. I look forward to seeing the movie. I have e-mailed my local Arts theatre, but was thinking of trying the local colleges for a one-off showing. Would that be possible? Are there promotional materials we can download/print out?

read all of the interview bits...

thanks again for taking the time to keep us informed.

YOU ARE THE MEDIA!

K & an enthusiastic R!



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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:42 AM
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6. Dickersons
Thank you Lukery.

Here is another significant angle:

FBI goes on the record and confirms its investigation of Dickersons on 'Espionage' activities (Because that's what the IG stated: that the bureau did not investigate these espionage related activities...).

Now, based on DOD regulations, you cannot maintain your security clearance and access to sensitive military secrets while either you or your spouse is under active investigation...

How come Douglas Dickerson still maintains that access/clearance?
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:46 AM
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9. 'Maintains' His Clearance Seems to Be the Wrong Word
Dickerson got a promotion so I assume he actually has more access than ever before.

Of course, the argument a lot of people make is, "Well, you know, the Turks are our NATO allies. What's the bid deal about a little 'friendly espionage'?

What these people don't realize is that the Cold War is over- and Turkey may be giving these secrets to some of the worst enemies of the United States.
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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:58 AM
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11. Larry Franklin
Friendly spies? Let's not for get Franklin. Feith happened to be his direct boss!
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:02 AM
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13. What I Mean Is...
...that people do not have the same reaction to espionage from 'allies' that they do with espionage from 'rivals' or 'enemies'. What most people don't realize is that this type of so-called 'friendly' espionage can be just as insidious and damaging as Russian or Chinese espionage- because once these nuclear secrets are out in the open, there is no telling who will eventually get their hands on them.
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:23 AM
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17. Here's A Question For You
After espionage and bribery like this is covered up, would someone from the U.S. intelligence agencies reproach the Turks and Israelis and warn them that though they were getting a free pass out of jail this time, to continue such operations would have "serious consequences".

Because I can see that as their excuse, as to why they didn't investigate. "Oh we handled it diplomatically"

The problem is that a slap on the wrist doesn't usually stop the behaviour.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:59 AM
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23. one problem with that scenario
is that by the time they get to that stage, there's an entire 'network' - and AFAIK it gets beyond national boundaries

sibel has said that it all boils down to money - so it gets to a point where it's beyond the capacity of national interests to shut it down
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:07 AM
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14. they all got jobs despite...
their security problems.

feith, perle, bryen...
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:14 PM
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27. That amazes me, your reference to the
security problems Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle et al had already had in the past, yet sailed into top security positions in the Bush administration and basically formulated the disastrous policy of the past six years. You might almost think enemies of the US had taken it over from within, if you were to let your mind go there.

When I first came across the info on Wolfowitz and Feith I was shocked but now, I expect the worst from anyone remotely connected to this administration.

I think I read that Abramoff was the contact between Hastert and the Turks, probably through his Israeli contacts.

Fascinating story, thanks Lukery for the updates, I'm glad the FBI is still investigating.
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wholetruth00 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:09 AM
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15. Damn!!! We need flood the talk shows with e-mails about this.
Firing one off to Lou, Keith, and Wolf.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:33 AM
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18. thnk u thnk u
it feels like we are close to the top of the levees...

one more push!
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:50 AM
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19. Interview: Sibel Edmonds Manifesto
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 08:50 AM by Wilber_Stool
This is Part One of my extended interview with Mathieu Verboud, co-director of Kill The Messenger - The story of whistle-blower Sibel Edmonds. Luke Ryland.

This is a must read:

http://sibeledmonds.blogspot.com/2006/10/interview-sibel-edmonds-manifesto.html
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:58 AM
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20. thnx!
am glad you liked the interview
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:24 AM
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24. The FBI continually covers for the Bush crime family
Didn't the FBI threaten Sibel when she wanted to go public with the information she had? What good is it to have them "investigate" Sibel's allegations when they've been key players in covering it up?
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:22 PM
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25. Thanks so much for posting the article and for your very
intriguing analysis. :popcorn:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:00 PM
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26. I've said it before, and I'll say it again....
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 02:01 PM by file83
...I believe that Sibel Edmond's reports about what was going on inside the Arabic translation department of the FBI is tied to DIRECTLY to the attacks of 9/11.

I have no idea (duh - what do I know?) if it was a corruption case that lead to intelligence mistakes, or if it was part of an espionage plot to allow the highjacker's to commit 9/11, or if it was some other variation on a US government plant by rogue elements to protect the 9/11 highjackers without their knowledge (part of a 9/11 LIHOP theory).

Who knows, and that's why an investigation needs to be completed - but having the FBI say they are "continuing" an investigation on themselves is not very encouraging. It could mean something, or it could mean it's just a delay tactic until... martial law? Who knows.

All I believe is that Sibel's claims are DIRECTLY tied to the events of 9/11.
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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:46 PM
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28. Good Point
We have all the reasons, good ones, for not trusting the bureau
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:16 PM
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32. let's hope
that someone, somewhere, in the FBI has the ability and the desire to move it forward.

i guess hope is about all we've got - unless we can get some external pressure from the media.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:46 PM
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29. kicking for sibel
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:25 PM
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31. Thanks for the heads up on Sibel's case! n/t
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:37 PM
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33. Love Sibel. Not much in the post about what the FBI is doing, though...
...the FBI says the investigation is continuing, but that could be investigation of her unfair termination, or of her allegations that the translating department was mismanaged, or of the mysterious translator who might have been a foreign agent....

...the investigation may not pertain to the heart of the issue, the reasons she's gagged (Turkey, Pakistan, Hastert, 9/11, money, nucs maybe). The Stanton story gives some good background, but not much on what the FBI investigation is. What is the liklihood that Negroponte would OK a deep investigation of nefarious backroom dealings?
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:02 PM
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34. true, but...
we can hopefully take some solace in Stanton's last sentence - that the investigation may include some of the dealings of the people 'named in the article'
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