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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:29 AM
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Were the attacks upon the WTC and the Pentagon a declaration of war?
...upon our country? If so, was the invasion of Afghanistan and the overthrow of the Taliban a sufficient response? Or why shouldn't the US have invaded Saudi Arabia and taken over all the oil wells since the hijackers that attacked us were mostly Saudis? Why did we invade Iraq?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:31 AM
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1. We invaded Iraq and not Saudi Arabia because
Saddam Hussein embarassed Pappy and the Junta was burning for revenge. Saudi Arabia pretty much owns the Junta, which is why we grounded all air traffice over the US immediately after 9/11, so that the Saudi royal family had a clear shot (pardon the expression) at fleeing US justice.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:31 AM
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2. 1. No. 19 men with boxcutters don't a war declare.
2. Invasion of Afghanistan was the wrong response and totlaly ineffective. No, not "ineffective", it was counter-productive.

3. Invasion is not the answer to a crime. It IS a crime in and of itelf.

4. We invaded Iraq coz bush planned to invade Iraq since the 1990s. He said so himself.
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Grillydad Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:22 AM
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10. I agree
No individual can declare war. Only official action from a country declares war. It's what makes the "war on Terror" stupid-- you fight wars with countries, not a gand of thugs. You use police forces on thugs.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:32 AM
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3. Oil
Because Iraq has more and better oil. That's what bush wanted for his oil companies. And they are signing the deal soon so they will have it. He now has to move on to another country with Oil...Iran maybe.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:36 AM
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4. We already have the Saudies under control and doing our bidding
so there was no reason to go there.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:45 AM
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5. We invaded Iraq because
Saddam was 'thinking' bad thoughts about America and Poppy, whom he didn't like very much, which was embarrassing.... and Saddam couldn't match us in weaponry at the time (according to the inspectors) and Iraq's infrastructure was weak because of the years of sanctions, so the timing was perfect..oh, and W had already 'avenged 9/11 in bad Afghanistan, besides, Iraq has all that yummy oil.. who else could Bush attack but Iraq?

:evilgrin:
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:49 AM
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6. Remind me again who was responsible for (or could have prevented) the attacks?
And tell me what interests had been seeking an invasion of Iraq and a "remaking" of the Middle East at the expense of the U.S. national interest.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:50 AM
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7. No. It was a crminal act and should have been treated as one just as in
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 09:55 AM by higher class
the first bombing of the WTC. Trials, juries, lawyers ... it all worked under the reign of Clinton and a semi-sound legal system - the guilty are in jail.

This was a convenient excuse for corporations to have their war and for the profit for a few.

If this had been treated as a criminal act, some of our kids would be here now. Some of our kids would not have destroyed their limbs, organs, immune systems, minds, careers, families, future children, dreams.

This regime is attempting to ruin our legal system - they hold contempt for juries (in particular - a minority is making the law - no way).

Watch their words. They despise juries and certain lawyers and the laws that our founders and previous lawmakers have given us. They are very obvious. What do I think the Federalist Society is doing - figuring out how to dismantle it. Orin Hatch and many more.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:06 AM
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8. "declaration of war" is the FRAME put out by Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda
to inflate themselves importance-wise. Unfortunately, Bush stepped right into it.

It should have been treated as a CRIMINAL MATTER, a "crime against humanity". That would have taken the frame away from OBL and AQ and denigrated their status and self-importance.

Bottom line: Fighting terrorism is a job for cops, spies, and diplomats - NOT the military.

:smoke:
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:19 AM
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9. I believe that they were an attack on BIG OIL and their lap dog
the *ss. Poppy had angered fundamentalist muslims by placing our troops in Saudi Arabia and invading a muslim country. When *ss was elected they responded. It is BIG OIL that was systematically raping their area of the world by steeling the oil and threatening their culture. They hit the WTC and Pentagon as a symbol of the economic and military hold that BIG OIL now controlled through *ss & Co.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:33 AM
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11. Declarations of War are Statist propaganda
If we didn't have the Trillions of fleeced funds invested into the MIC, a huge standing military, bases across the entire globe, floating armadas of weapons,s upplies and men maybe we wouldn't have to worry about 19 men from far away lands...
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