Has anyone else seen the "Evolution is a Fairy Tale for Grownups"

[KansDem]

...billboards?

One went up recently going into Kansas from Missouri on I-35. A website address is included on the billboard:

www.scienceprovesit.com

I'm usually a bit slow on the uptake, but even I could see misinformation in this website!

[Lorien]

1. We're not the ones with talking snakes. n/t

[Marnieworld]

2. or the virgin births

I'm just saying.

[joefree1]

15. Or torture fetishes, apocalypse yearning

Seven headed beast, valleys of blood, eternal damnation, etc.

Yecch.

[longship]

8. To say nothing of the magic apples.

Talk about fairy tales...

I think I'll listen to Mozart's "Magic Flute" today. It has snakes and magic flutes and all sorts of stuff like that in it. Far more enjoyable than the bible--it doesn't have page after page of "begats"--and you can sing along with it. The only begatting it has goes something like this:

Pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-gena. Pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-geno.

[BlueEyedSon]

3. Clearly written by peeps who understand neither entropy nor evolution.

Ignorant, dishonest shit-for-brains.
I guess they are proof that Homo Sapiens descended from something much dumber.

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

4. right, but its perfectly logical to think a magic man way up in the sky

went "zap" and there were pigs and bears and other things.....and those seketal remains of everything else that doesnt exist anymore are...um...are...well just BS. they never really existed :eyes:

[BlueEyedSon]

5. "God is Santa Claus for adults" would be my rejoinder.... nt

[JuniperLea]

6. The fairy tales I know never left evidence

But I guess God put all those bones on Earth to test your faith.

And what about all those viruses that change so quickly? And all the bacteria that changes to avoid our anti-bacterial stuff?

When did science prove God's existence? I must have missed that one.

[Occulus]

13. I've never, ever understood that one

"Worship my God! He's a liar!!"

Utter bullshit.

[WCGreen]

7. A virus mutates....

That is how you can see evolution at the base level...

The Virus mutates and adapts to it's surrounding...

The power of life, the drive to survive, trumps entrophy....

[JuniperLea]

20. Human beings have changed in recorded history as well

And it's due to that same adaptation to our surroundings.

We are bigger than people were 200 years ago, and we live longer.

[RaleighNCDUer]

30. A still on-going process. 30 years ago I was one inch shorter than

the average -- today, I feel like I am surrounded by giants.

How do they explain horses and donkeys? Closely enough related to interbreed, but distant enough that they only produce mules? If that isn't an example of speciation, I don't know what is.

[maxsolomon]

9. the billboard company would censor an equivalent message

from a liberal group. they do it all the time out here in the NW. too "incendiary".

just like commercial stations refuse to show Adbuster's Buy Nothing Day spots.

[wicket]

10. Anyone who doesn't believe in evolution shouldn't be allowed a flu shot

Since it's based on the fact that the virus EVOLVES every year. God these people make me sick.

[Beetwasher]

11. LOL! So Funny, Evolution: Fairy Tale. Ressurrections, Virgin Births, Gods

Miracles etc.: Reality. :rofl:

[Avalux]

12. What a joke - and an insult to real science.

These bozos are very clearly using misinformation and pseudoscience. Creation Science?????? :rofl:

[porphyrian]

14. Funny, that's what I've heard said about religion. - n/t

[joefree1]

19. Naw, organized religion is a drug

Fantasys and fairy tales would portend some mental ability. Religion is meant to numb you out and make you a good worker/consumer.

[RaleighNCDUer]

31. My personal feeling is that religion is a communicable mental

disorder, usually benign but which on occassion explodes into a virulent form called 'fundamentalism' - like most virulent viruses, it will burn itself out after killing it's host.

[JuniperLea]

35. Religion is the knot at the end of your rope

When people are so down they need something to hold onto.

[RaleighNCDUer]

38. I prefer to hold onto reason than the hope that some ghost in the

sky is going to make things all better.

[JuniperLea]

40. Me too

Just saying

[BrendaStarr]

39. Yes, but like any virulent disease.

It can kill a lot of other people too before it's done.

BTW, Money for supporting the correct party is the thing behind the faith based charities. It makes a lot of jobs for people in the church (though, of course, not at the level of the golden 10% that a pastor rakes in.)

You pass these taxpayer paid jobs out like the old time political machines used to and you have a willing little troop of workers who won't oppose you. It's all out in the open this time. The FB charities are even allowed to hire only their own kind.

Robertson's Operation Blessing got over 14 million in the last year alone.

http://brst.livejournal.com/

[johnnie]

16. Why are these folks so friggin' worried?

Why can't they just be happy that they are going to heaven and the rest of us are going to rot in hell? They sure show a deep lack of faith by trying to make people believe in what they believe.

If there is an afterlife, there are going to be a lot of people *really* pissed off that they blew cash on billboards.

[baby_mouse]

17. Monkey see, Monkey do.

This is the criticism most often laid at the door of Christianity. They've just copied it. They think extracting theory from available fact is a sort of game that they're supposed to try and win.

No, christians. It's not a game. The world's bigger and more real than you think.

Where are the fairies in evolution? Where are the magic powers? Hm? Where is the wicked Queen, the handsome prince, Cinderella? Not in my textbooks.

Science Fiction, now THAT's fairy tales for grown-ups.

[johnaries]

18. They are MISQUOTING the Law of Entropy AGAIN!

Entropy only applies to CLOSED SYSTEMS! The Earth is not a closed system. It is constantly bombarded by massive amounts of radiation and energy, as well as matter.

Under such conditions, the logical conclusion would be the reverse of entropy in a closed system. Therefore, you would expect systems to become more organized, not less organized.

They've ben using this same baseless argument for 40 years, and it has been debunked and refuted repeatedly for 40 years.

Jeebus!

[Coexist]

25. but there is an entire generation of people who have never heard it

...or so they are banking on.

[mwb970]

29. How does the bombarding of radiation and energy produce order?

If I stand out in the sun, will I become more complex? Will the wind blowing on a really, really hot, sunny beach eventually blow the sand into a replica of the Taj Mahal?

Just asking.

[johnaries]

33. You're thinking on a macular level. It occurs on the micro level.

As the energy level is increased, simpler molecules tend to interact more and become more complex molecules. The increasing complexity begins there.

Also, radiation tends to create mutations, as everyone knows.

Remember, Evolution is not a theory. It has been observed many times. In fact, every time there's a new virus it's a product of evolution.

It's Darwin's idea of Natural Selection that is a theory.

[mwb970]

37. I'm sorry, I still don't get it.

As the energy level is increased, wouldn't the molecules tend to break apart rather than falling into a more orderly pattern? Why would simpler molecules become more complex just because there is extra energy? If you had LOTS of extra energy, the atoms themselves would split apart, no?

As for radiation-created mutations, wouldn't 99.999% of random mutations be detrimental to the organism? Why would only helpful ones occur randomly?

And you're right, I have no problem with evolution per se, but the idea of it being driven by randomness just doesn't light up my sense-o-meter.

No offense, but your incorrect use of "macular" (I think you meant macro) leads me to ask whether you are a scientist (or science student or science buff), or just someone with an opinion? Nothing wrong with that, but this is a technical subject.

[johnaries]

41. Thanks for correcting me, I did mean macro. I don't know why

my fingers typed macular.

I'm just a science buff, not an expert by any means. But I have read much on this and related topics. Much of it is High School science. For instance, when you raise the energy levels, the atoms and molecules tend to move around more which makes them interact more. Also, when the energy level within an atom raises enough to bump the outer electrons to the highest energy level within their electron shell. This makes it easier for the electron to fly off, turning the atom into an ion looking for a molecular bond with all the other atoms that it is now bouncing off of. And since it is a high energy level, it's not as picky with the type of bond it will make. This creates more complex molecules.

AS far as the mutations are concerned, this is where Natural Selection comes in.

99.999% is way off. The probabillity is closer to 50/50 that it will be detrimental. Although that may go up as the complexity increases. However, if the mutation is detrimental, then the critter with that mutation will die or get eaten before it can reproduce and pass on the mutated genes. If the mutation is an advantage, then the mutated critter will reproduce like crazy, passing on those genes.

Is that a little clearer?

[SidDithers]

34. It doesn't...

but the energy added to the system allows for growth and development. Like putting gas in your car allows it to go.

Sid

[bullimiami]

21. ok, they believe in magic. it explains everything. poof, its a man.

[China_cat]

28. See my sig line.

[sui generis]

22. ha ha hahahaha "atheistic religion"

Yes. If there is any proof in the world that demonstrates we evolved from apes at varying rates and through punctuated equilibria it would be that some of them apparently are still evolving and have just now learned to write web pages.

They should be all caught up with the rest of us in an epoch or two, if we can stand their poop flinging ways.

[leeroysphitz]

23. We are seeing the powerful thrashing of an outdated

institution in it's "death throes" The religious right is desperately trying to hold on to the last vestiges of power and authority taken from them by Mr. Darwin and 2000 years of rational human thought.

Science keeps the lights on, food on the table, trucks on the road, planes in the sky and doctors in the hospital. Religion is fighting pretty hard and has made significant gains recently but these are temporary. Science can't lose because at the end of the day when you've come down with pneumonia you may PRAY for a speedy recovery but you still go to see the DOCTOR.

[insane_cratic_gal]

24. Or women made from Ribs nm the incest

[Shortyfuse]

26. Does intelligent design include.....Aliens

I guess they have to cover every thing under this fable.

[jonnyblitz]

27. and the DUMBING down of America by religionists continues..

we will be much easier to control once everybody lose all semblance of rational thought and just become followers of our religious/political leaders.

[sarcasmo]

32. A God is the biggest fairy tale ever created by human kind.

[mmonk]

36. If it's a fairy tale,

couldn't science have come up with a more exciting one?