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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:03 PM
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I have to tell you something.
Something about you, about me, about us, this place, this country, and most importantly, about the next thirteen days.

Thirteen days. Less than two weeks. An eyeblink in time, to be sure, but at this moment, an absolute and utter eternity.

I have to tell you that I don't know what is going to happen when these thirteen days are over. Neither do you, and neither do any of the so-called smart people on the television or in the papers. There are numbers, yeah, and there are trends, but they have as much force and weight as words written in sand before the rising tide. Ask King Canute about that.

Thirteen days, and then one more, and then we will know.

I think probably the next thirteen days will bring a level of unprecedented mayhem to this board. It was bad on 9/11, it was bad during the 2002 midterms, it was an absolute bloodbath during the 2004 primaries, and after November of 2004...well...it was bad.

I think, maybe, the next thirteen days will be worse. Nobody trusts the vote, for a slew of good reasons, and the ones we oppose have proven beyond doubt that they are capable of anything. Every second that ticks by carries in it the fear that some awful rabbit will be pulled from a hat. 60 seconds in a minute. 60 minutes in an hour. 24 hours in a day. 13 days.

Add to that the stakes, the unbelievable stakes. We needed to win in 2002. We really needed to win in 2004. If we do not win this time, if we do not manage to wrestle some degree of control from the hands of those who have delivered us to this wretched place, then it is quite possibly all over. This is the last line. America can still recover from what has happened, but only if a firewall is thrown up in this last, latest hour.

That is a lot of time for people here to get wound up, worked up, worried, angry, frustrated and frightened. It is going to happen - it is already happening - and there is nothing to stop it or cure it or deflect it.

It is what it is, so here is what I have to tell you.

You are the heart and soul and breath of this nation. You have been right about all of it - the wars, the corruption, the shattering of constitutional protections - and you have been right about all of it for years. Finally, after swinging the hammer and screaming into the noise for all these weeks and months and years, finally finally finally, a vast majority of the country has heard you, and believes what you believe.

Whatever else happens, it was worth every ounce of sweat and every tear and every sleepless night. "Few will have the greatness to bend history itself," said Robert Kennedy, "but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation."

That's you. Just remember that as we pass through this next crucible. Don't ever forget it.

I don't know what is going to happen these next thirteen days.

But I believe.

And for now, that will have to do.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:05 PM
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1. I don't know what will happen.
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 01:05 PM by Bornaginhooligan
But I know there's blood in the water and I'm a hammerhead in a tank full of sharks.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:22 AM
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95. Sic 'em!


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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:05 PM
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2. K&R
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:06 PM
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3. Will
:patriot:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:06 PM
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4. As always, thanks for that perspective, Will.
Never Give Up.


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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:24 PM
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20. Yes, thank you. Many of us have been fighting hard, unsung, but
right about many, many things.

I've converted many Dems this summer into voting for a Democratic local candidate, she was so much better than the GOP candidate, and hope that will help them realize that they need to vote for the office's candidate, not just a party label.

Many have been registering voters, asking questions at church and at work, helping people see and think about what's going on.

All of us have something to do with what happens on Election Day.

If we don't like the result, then we have to go back and work harder and smarter.

Talking to my sister, who felt it was all hopeless, I said "What do you mean? We're Americans! We were born free and we fight to maintain that freedom. We are the "can-do" people. We're not cowards and we don't shy away from a righteous fight. We do not live our lives in fear! Ever!"

After I said it, I realized that I needed to hear it, too.

We do not live our lives in fear! Ever!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:07 PM
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5. I'm confident, but guarded...
...memories of the 2004 election are still fresh (and raw) in my mind.:grr::scared::shrug:
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:07 PM
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6. Now back to the hell of anticipation... - n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:09 PM
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8. Exactly. We return you now to your regularly scheduled hell. (n/t)
:grr:
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:09 PM
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7. Thanks, as always...
...for maintaining a little sanity and hope, as always. Kipling's lines--about keeping your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming you--might have been written for you and your posts here at DU...
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:11 PM
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9. I believe that if we all do everything we CAN do
things will turn out well.

And I believe that Bryan Kennedy is going to knock James Sensenbrenner out of his seat in WI-5. :patriot:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:11 PM
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10. Thank you, Will, for that.
Eloquent as always, you brought tears to my eyes.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:12 PM
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11. I don't know what will happen, but I will guess we will take back some
serious power. That in itself won't be enough. It will be to what end it will be used. Using it well and wisely will be a lot harder and rockier and more politically pit-fallen than I think many seem to be anticipating.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:13 PM
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12. So true ... like that last month of a pregnancy ...

when you're just sooooo tired of being pregnant, just can't wait for it to be over ... uncomfortable and emotional ... excited and scared ...


I hope we're all here Nov. 8th ... celebrating a rebirth.


Good work and good luck everyone!







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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:14 PM
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13. We shall see....
:dilemma: :hide: :yoiks:
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:18 PM
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14. Always the Voice Of Reason. Thanks.
Deep in my heart, I believe, we will kick their asses someday.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:56 PM
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30. heh - after watching "Eyes on the Prize" the past 3 weeks on PBS, that song
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 01:57 PM by kath
keeps running through my head:

"Deep in my heearr-arr-art, I do belie-ee-eve, we will kick their arses some day."

(an absolutely *awesome* show, BTW. If you missed it, try borrowing it from your library or video store.)
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:22 PM
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37. Watching it all again -- and that is exactly where I got it.
That series makes me all teary-eyed every time I watch it. The bravery, in the face of such vicious tactics. My God.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:06 AM
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:18 PM
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15. We're all detainees now.
I love how you put that in perspective, Will. I always feel a sense of comfort and belonging when I read your posts. You're somewhere between Cindy Sheehan and Walt Witmann. Whatever the hell that means.

But I don't think you're going to see much fighting coming from the ranks now. We've all been trashed.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:19 PM
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16. I am scared half to death, Will. Kick and Recommend
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:20 PM
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17. I don't know what the outcome will be either, but
if this election is stolen from us we need to take a page out of the French Revolution playbook and storm the bastille, otherwise known as the White House. This old woman is fed up with the lies and illegal activities put forward by this regime.
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:14 PM
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67. Get your knitting needles out
Think Laura will say, "Let them eat cake."
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:22 PM
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18. Remarkably succinct reporting, that
K & R.

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Yoda Yada Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:24 PM
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19. Thank you for words we must never forget.
"You are the heart.....and soul....and breath of this nation".

"...but each of us CAN work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation."


I believe it, too. And for now, those words will inspire me.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:25 PM
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21. I am terrified about what will happen if we lose.
We are on the edge of tyranny and I believe we will go over that edge if we lose. The fascists will take complete control and begin eliminating "trouble makers."

We cannot lose; we cannot.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:28 PM
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22. I'm frightened by what will happen if we don't gain something this time.
I cried and cried from 1:30AM until I went to work at 4:30AM the morning after the 2004 voting. I could not fathom what had occurred....that the 'impossible' had happened. I painted a giant sign, putting my house up for sale, thinking I just could not live in the USA anymore. I've stayed and fought, but if it happens again........
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:34 PM
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23. Something we all can do. . .
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 02:14 PM by stellanoir
In a sleepier forum people were dispairing over the possibility of fraud so I posted this.

Every time you feel the intense sorrow and dread about anticipating yet another inevitable defeat, consider stiffening your spine, focusing your mind and saying aloud or thinking really loudly and firmly. . .

"I'm co creating with spirit that any malicious code implanted or secreted in the vote tally counting software be neutralized in the upcoming elections on November 7th, and that any malfeasance that does occur will be so blatant that it will be exposed and corrected immediately, so that the true will of the electorate will be revealed and true justice can manifest." (feel free to modify, shorten, or augment as you feel is appropriate)

Very simply, if they can rig 'em we can fix 'em. . .with our minds.

I've posted this before and I'm dead serious about it. If there is any aspect of technology that can be effected by group thought it would more than likely be computers. Talk to a techie or two about strangely inexplicable anomolies sometime.

Having approached this issue from every traditional imaginable angle for nearly 4 years, and having written to every pundit, plutocrat, and politician I could think of to virtually no avail, this affirmation may be our only recourse that won't take years of legislative and legal wrangling to ameliorate this most dire situation.

When I was searching for some other writing, I came across something that caught my eye but I've no idea what from what site I cut
it. It was supposedly an interview from a women who had allegedly been
raised, sexually tortured, and initiated by what some refer to as the "Dark Cabal" that has presumably usurped control of our nation. Then she somehow miraculously escaped. Goodness knows if it was true. I had consciously forgotten what she had said but today I saw it as a tremendous affirmation.

She reputedly said, "the only way they will ever be unseated from power is through massive group prayer." It rang as true to me when I first read it as it does to this day.

They have mastered "group think" based on multiple falsehoods for nearly 6 years now. Imagine what we could do by harnassing and focusing relentlessly on one truth that could rebirth the cornerstone of any democracy. . .one person one (accountable) vote.

If anyone thinks this prayer thingy is irrational, I'll be the first to acknowledge that it truly is. However so are they. An exclusively rational approach has repeatedly not succeeded with these who are in no way "reality based."

So there. Let's get creative and stay focused.

I'm hoping for the best.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:14 PM
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53. 26 years
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:03 AM
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108. I already hear
the prayers, the wishes, the pleas for rationality --whatever you want to call the various appeals to the Universe to smile on our cause right now. This isn't a religious thing so much...more like an expression of human spirit that encompasses all beliefs. It is indicative of a growing resistance to a truly destructive impulse in our society, manifesting in our most powerful political entities. The voices of millions of hearts are already rising like a treefrog chorus as these elections approach. Group consciousness is powerful when pulling in the same direction--as even the Fundies have shown.

This is a struggle for the future of our country. These elections are historic exactly because of this fervent desire to correct the disastrous course we are collectively on. If we are thwarted, we will know how hard the road really is. And if we win we will know how hard the road really is. Keep this balance in the midst of the fray.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:41 PM
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24. Will, thanks for reminding us:
"Finally, after swinging the hammer and screaming into the noise for all these weeks and months and years, finally finally finally, a vast majority of the country has heard you, and believes what you believe."

2000 was hell, 2004 was beyond hell, but some of us never stopped fighting and working and you are absolutely right, as much as it feels like we have been beaten, we are finally turning the tide.

Remember when the vast majority of the country BELIEVED Bush? I'm not suggesting we get full credit for that; Bush lied his own lies, but we finally have made some headway.

On to November 7...

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:47 PM
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25. Thanks Will
I really needed to hear that right now. :hug:


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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:49 PM
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26. Let your fears activate you.
All the candidates desperately need your help at this point. In this short two weeks we can still make a difference. Every door knocked, every stamp licked, every phone rang, can turn the tide on another race. Volunteer and give your all.

We can make this the greatest election of a generation, or given the stakes, of history.

Thanks, Will.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:26 PM
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57. My thoughts exactly. A historical day. nt
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:50 PM
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27. I'm not sure I'll survive the anticipation
I'm not counting on winning anything but it is sweet watching all these pundits try to spin how they were against the Iraq war. Yeah, right. We remember when we were the lone voices rising up against this insanity. We remember when Georgey had a 90 percent approval rating and it felt like the sane 10 percent gathered here. Some of us never approved of the man sitting in Al Gore's house.

I'm going to ask this in most of my posts the next two weeks. How many doors have you knocked on and how many phone calls have you made. This is all about turnout and volunteers. We have work to do.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:50 PM
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28. "Remember, remember the 7th of November. . ."
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 01:50 PM by DinahMoeHum
"...we shall give them a 7th of November that shall never ever be forgot!"

(with apologies to "V for Vendetta")

Thanks again, Will.

:kick::patriot::kick:
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:51 PM
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29. made me cry. thank you, again, mr pitt. eom
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:00 PM
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31. My SHTF emergency food cabinet is well stocked with popcorn
Regular popcorn that can be cooked over gas heat in case the power is out and I can't use the microwave oven.

:popcorn:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:01 PM
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32. Here is what one very clued in person thinks may well happen:
http://billmon.org/archives/002880.html

A snip, but the whole thing needs to be read to make sense of it:

My speculations were triggered by this John Fund column, which ran in the Wall Street Journal a couple of days ago, warning (anticipating?) that a number of close races could wind up being decided not at the polls and not even in the courts, but on the floor of the House and Senate -- by majority vote.

Or maybe I should say "majority" vote, since if enough races are challenged, the bodies ultimately doing the voting may represent only a minority of the electorate. Which, for the losers, is the whole point of the exercise.

What am I babbling about here? Well, as Fund points out the Constitution gives each house of Congress the sole authority to determine the qualifications of its members:

So after the inevitable recounts and court cases that will accompany any very close election, there is also the chance that this year's disappointed candidates will take their case to Congress. Both the House and Senate are each legally the final judge of any disputed election. If control of each chamber hinges on a couple of razor-thin races, look for lengthy floor debates to be held over who really won each seat.

Those debates won't be held, however, until after each house has organized itself -- based on the votes of members whose victories, and right to be seated, are uncontested. So it's possible to imagine a scenario in which the Dems appear to have won a narrow majority in, say, the House on November 7, but Republican challengers are contesting a number of close races. When the new Congress convenes, the old GOP majority could then block the Democratic winners from claiming the "disputed" seats, thus retaining control, and then turn around and vote -- by a "majority" -- to seat the GOP challengers. Voila! A Democratic victory is turned into a Democratic defeat.


Read. Weep.....if it comes to that.

Some DU researchers may want to get a jump on it. I have unconditional faith in them.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:02 PM
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33. k&r
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:03 PM
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34. K&R
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:04 PM
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35. Thanks, Will
Thanks especially, for the quote from Robert Kennedy. Here's hoping for a positive outcome on November 7.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:10 PM
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36. Thanks Will. I would like to add just a small addendum to lurking
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 02:11 PM by Raster
"freepers" and others that identify themselves of the right wing persuasion. I come in peace. And I come asking you to consider the possibility that this election will NOT reflect the true and lawful will of the people of the United States through various methods of electoral chicanery. If all of us, Republican and Democrat, Left and Right--all of us--cannot wake up on Wednesday, November 8 with the belief that the election was fair and square--no matter its outcome--than our precious democracy has been lost. And that my friends, is the absolute worst thing that could happen to any and all of us. If the election results are allowed to be illegally slanted to one side or the other, all of us lose. Consider that this election cycle the results could tilt one way, but that the next election cycle's results could shift another. The illegal winner today could well be the illegal loser tomorrow. The ends do not justify the means.
:kick:22!
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cautiouslywaiting Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:32 PM
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38. I believe too!
And I'm so glad you're here. I don't know what we'd do without you.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:59 PM
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74. Welcome to DU, cautiouslywaiting.
We live in interesting times; this is a good place to be.
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cautiouslywaiting Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:03 PM
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75. Definitely!
It's a great place to be. I'm so glad I finally found DU. I think this election is gonna be good.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:08 PM
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114. Welcome to DU, cautiouslywaiting!
I'm glad you found us... :hi:

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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:40 PM
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39. Will, I hope for the best,
but I fear the worst

As always you said just the right things , at the right time:loveya:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:44 PM
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40. William Pitt, you made me cry. Thank-you.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:49 PM
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41. I believe! Where's Bleever to help us with the bleevin? Our Candidate
for Congress finally helped me have hope again, I didn't think I was going to see hope again so soon after the '04 election.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 02:58 PM
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42. k&r
:kick:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:04 PM
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43. Good little pep talk Will
Sincerely, we needed that. Might have to give us one every day for the next 12.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:13 PM
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44. Will, I'm 57 years old, and I've never been so concerned about
our country.

I have two grown sons and a daughter-in-law, and I worry daily about the quality of their lives and the lives of their children if our Congress doesn't do something to put the brakes on this administration.

Thank you for all the hard work you do, and I sincerely mean that.






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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:15 PM
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45. Good post and I can tell you what's likely to happen after the elections
There will be widespread election tampering and Americans will be outraged. Shortly after that, the neo-cons will attack Iran and most likely Syria. The new "war" will deflect attention away from the rigged elections and as usual, anyone who talks about removing the illegally "elected" neo-con frauds will be called a traitor or be told "we'll look into it later, we're at war now".

The stock market will continue to be propped up, the gov't economic numbers will continue to be lies and the widespread looting of the American taxpayer will go on. Spying on Americans will increase. Torture will go unchecked. Prices on necessary goods will skyrocket as fascist American corporations create false shortages of goods. Fear and hatred will be so thick that we'll probably put Middle Easterners in camps like the WWII Japanese.

Or, Americans will finally grow some balls and revolt, most likely peacefully and economically. The sht's about to hit the fan.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:50 PM
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46. it was bad after the last election?
Why, because that was when I rejoined?

Maybe I was two weeks late, but I do no remember it being particularly bad.

Was it worse than this time?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=196554#197873
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:54 PM
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48. "Why, because that was when I rejoined?"
Yup. This whole post was about your timeline and re-entry.

After 2004, it was as bad as I can recall.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:32 AM
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96. Very bad times (then) and thanks, Mr. Pitt for another
GREAT POST.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:51 PM
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47. #48 freaked me out
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 04:13 PM by omega minimo
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:06 PM
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49. Hope for the best, plan for the worst. After Nov 7 hubby and I
will have a good indication whether our retirement house that we're building in Panama---yes, Panama, the country--will be a full-time retirement house, or maybe just a vacation rental for the 40,000
construction workers expected to be employed building the $5.2 billion expansion of the Panama Canal approved last Sunday in a referendum by Panamanian voters.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:10 PM
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50. Okay
I'm inspired now :D
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:10 PM
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51. Oh I know what's going to happen, the Dems are going to destroy
the Reps in the House and Senate. We are seeing the replaying of political events around the turn of the 20th century. Say goodbye to Repuke control for another 80 years.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:08 AM
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94. let me shorten that a bit
"Say goodbye to Repuke control."
I've made it my personal mission to see that they never return.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:12 PM
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52. Thank you, Will. God Bless! I think we all need to hear this and remind
ourselves of this. Because otherwise, everything seems so damned futile (spoken on a day when, frankly, I'm a little spooked by kkkarl rove). My nerves are a mess, as are my fingernails - and that's not all I'm eating! This helps a little. But yes, it seems like an eternity before those 13 days are behind us.

Thank you for bucking me back up a little. It's not as good as vindication at the polling precincts, but it'll have to do for now.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:18 PM
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54. Thanks Will!
It is so hard to believe but I'll keep trying. :patriot:
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:19 PM
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55. The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Victory Itself.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 04:20 PM
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56. Great post.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

It sure is going to be a crazy 13 days but I am excited, worried, confident, nervous....every emotion known to mankind.

But I love it! :bounce:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:01 PM
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58. It was "all over"
when the Supreme Court of the United States put George W Bush in the White House in 2000.

It was doubly "all over" on 9/12/01 when we let the murder of 3,000 of our fellow citizens be obfuscated and covered up by government, military and media alike.

As others have said here, one doesn't stage a bloodless coup d'état using vote fraud, then commit mass murder and treason via a staged "terrorist attacks" if you don't mean business. They have gotten everything they wanted, including away with it. Everything is now in place. All they need is one more "catalyzing event," one more provocation, to achieve their ultimate aim: The total overthrow of the American Republic.

Does this mean I've given up hope? No. Does this mean I won't vote. NO! But it does mean I'm not blind to what is really going on and the PATHETIC response to all this from people of conscience, Democrats and Republicans alike.

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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:11 PM
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59. Thanks For The Post... I Tried Very Hard To Stiffen Our Support
and determination in an alternative way last night! Got some WooHoots about my strategy, but one thing is CLEAR TO ME!

We MUST NOT LET THEM DO IT AGAIN! It has already begun, your math, their math, our math.... El-Smirkle-Roy happy as a lark and Red Rover grinning ear to ear! THEY have stratified themselves and think they have another "fix" in! We MUST NOT LET IT HAPPEN!

Polls are showing Democrats winning and if we lose... it IS TIME to take to the streets! Until then, keep the pressure on and keep digging for anything that looks suspicious!!

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:16 PM
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60. Aw Dammit Will... Ya Made Me Cry...
Beautifully said dude. I believe too.

K & R !!!

:kick:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:23 PM
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61. Unnecessary to wait until 11/07 - voter irregularities have already started
-snip-

Subject: Early Voting Started Today and It Is Just Like 2000, 2004. HELP!

I live in Palm Beach County Florida where we started early voting today. My wife and I arrived at one of 10 voting venues to vote at 11:30 am. When we arrived there were 10 people sitting alongside a wall waiting to vote. It was a narrow hallway, thus they were sitting. We were told immediately that it would take 45 minutes to 1 hour to vote. I tried to contain my temper and asked, "but there are only 10 people here how can it take that long?" To which I was answered: "The computers aren't working right." This started a yelling and screaming match from the people who were politely sitting. I said I do not want to wait that long, it defeats the purpose of early voting and how can the machines be down already? I called my local congressman here in Florida and within minutes they were on the phone to the polling station and quickly they announced that, if we wanted we, could vote on an optical scanning paper ballot that was also the absentee ballot form. My wife and I chose that method and so we were first on line.

First on line, First on Line, emphasis with first on line. The people behind the counter and I counted 16 women and 3 men did not know which end was up. One lady asked for our drivers license, one said it wasn't necessary, finally they took our drivers license and our registration card and asked us to wait. The people next to me had drivers licenses but no registration cards. They were never asked for registration cards and they got to vote. After 10 minutes the lady who took our licenses came back to us and said ok, now you have to go outside and wait on line to vote on the machine, as in ONE machine.

We said no no no, we want the paper ballot. She said, we don't have paper ballots. Another person behind the counter said, "Yes Mary, we are going to give them the absentee ballots which they can either take home or fill out here and give them to us." It then took another 15 minutes and we were given the absentee ballot.

Getting the absentee ballot was very scary because I watched as the women looked at our pct # and then went over to a huge file that had more than 200 little "cubby holes." She began to select one from many many of these cubbies that supposedly match my pct. How do I tell if it is right, and they simply said, "it is right."

We received the ballots with a combination of Spanish and English on every page. Quite annoying to find what the heck we were to do. On our ballot we saw a few people who were running unopposed with a line below that said write in. However, my congressman is running unopposed and his name is not listed at all and I immediately asked why is that? There was not a single person who could answer the question.

Once again I picked up the phone and called my congressman who told me that because he is unopposed and there are no right ins, he is not listed. Does that make sense to you? Why are there no right ins for him while there are for other unopposed people? By that time the people at the polling place had called someone on their own and they told me the same thing. I asked them why some write ins and some not?

By then they were exasperated with me and said they just don't know. We filled out our ballots sealed them and kissed them goodbye, hoping that they are counted.

This is only voting day minus 16 and already there is trouble.

Barry Sinrod

-snip-
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:51 PM
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62. Thanks, Will
I needed that. Alot. :patriot:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 05:57 PM
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63. Very nice article. True and a soothing message to a turbulent soul
Thanks, Sir William.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:24 PM
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87. Glad ta see ya in this thread, lad
Glad for the chance to say to you and all of DU:
Good job people! When the media failed America, you became the media. You held up light in dark rooms full of vermin.

DUers held the feet of the junta to the fire despite all the lies and threats they threw at us. DUers kept the heat on until some in media finally joined the fight and did their jobs.

America woke up and that was worth all the angst.

tom, lad, maybe, just maybe the Republic will stand. :toast:
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 06:01 PM
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64. Every once in awhile
this old Dem gets blogged down and needs a little shot in the ass like you posted. Thank You Mr. Pitt.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 06:25 PM
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65. I believe, too.
And I hope.

And I'm scared to death that this one may be stolen, as well.

Thank you, Will, for the calm, reasoned encouragement.

We'll all wait together for the outcome.

:patriot:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 06:29 PM
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66. This:
".....each of us can work to change a small portion of events....."

is why I keep up with the snarky comments and mini-rants and minor-league cheerleading. You just never know who might read, and think, and change their mind with that one little thing you said............
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:17 PM
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68. glad I am not the only one who is on pins and needles
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:25 PM
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69. You give me WAY too much credit
I'm right, I'm wrong, I'm gonna vote and let the chips fall where they may.

Newsprism
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:32 PM
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70. Let's all work together in the next 13 days....
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 07:56 PM by femrap
especially those in VA, MO, PA, TN, NJ, and OH for our Democratic Senatorial Candidates.

And there are Democratic Congressional Candidates that need our help.

Please phone bank, do a lit drop, or canvass.

Or just stand in lines at banks, grocery stores, or fast food places and pretend to talk on your cell phones about the great Democratic candidates. And why not mention the lies, corruption, and incompetence of the current administration....a vote for a repugnant in '06 is a vote for *.

Thanks.

Edited to add: CT! Ned Lamont in CT!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:32 PM
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71. Thanks Will. And I love Robert Kennedy quotes.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:46 PM
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72. I believe too.
And thanks for putting the big picture into these humbling, and inspiring, terms.

:thumbsup:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:50 PM
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73. Peace William Pitt and Hairy Bastid!
:hi:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:08 PM
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76. Thanks, Will
You brought tears to my eyes.

I feel like all of us here are in one big, virtual group hug and we can't let go, shouldn't let go until November 8. But we have to let go to do our canvassing, phone calling, getting out the vote, voting, talking up our candidates to anyone who will listen. Then on November 8, after we've done all we can do and it's out of our hands, we can come back together and hopefully have a big victory hug.

We must start to win back our country with this election -- if we don't, I'm not sure what will happen to us here or to our nation as a whole.
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Uncle Roy Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:13 PM
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77. "But I believe." You can always tell who's a RedSox fan!
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 09:14 PM by Uncle Roy
This will be the year....
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:42 PM
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78. Will Pitt ....I always love your posts
I'm lucky if I can put two decent sounding sentences together.

:kick: and rec
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 09:54 PM
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79. I think it's over - Rethugs lose
I think the Repukes lost when Limbaugh attacked Michael J. Fox. Now the swing voters see what kind of ugly soul the Repukes have. If they didn't know before, they know now.

And to think that the Repukes will lose congress because of Limbaugh. Amazing.
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:23 PM
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80. I believe in all you say...
:thumbsup:
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:26 PM
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81. i just hope the democrats do better
than the Red Sox did this year.

:P

good post Will.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:26 PM
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82. Thank you. And remember, it's your turn to bring donuts to the staff meeting
Don't be late. - TIA
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:32 PM
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83. It is going to get sooooo ugly.
The likes of which this country's never seen before. Count on it.

It's pretty much the only thing I'm sure of at this point.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:32 PM
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84. For 6 long years
Will Pitt, I have looked to you for inspiration. You have yet to let me down.

Jenn
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:42 PM
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85. kick!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 10:54 PM
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86. sure, but it's entering the phase where nothing is funny any more...
even while finding ways, remaining optimistic, whimsical yes while still finding ways to 'keep it real' while taking the whole kit & caboodle to the streets in spite of the fact that they hate it when we do

but even while you mention and i think rightly so; this 'blink of an eye' scenario of yours, it is a methodical plodding crunch time, if easier to think it so, then a slow-motion prototypical parachute test film semblances of what worked before in design form & functions yes...nylon & tethers, and rip cord perhaps (i think i see a rip cord there i hope someone didn't forget that component), the same ole aspersions as to viability survivability but you're right it's coming regardless along with a similar design flaw here & there

do we have faith in our model? i do. looks good from here so far...at least imo

though here bare in mind this while balancing all else: the other side does not show up to merely play...they show the hell up to WIN!

how much do we want it (that is not a selfish question far, far below us; or more to that point IF you think it is then internalize the virtue of selfishness for the sake of the country & get past it), how important do we think it truly is cause i say very much so

my hope is that i don't have to come here to kick ass & take names :patriot:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 11:44 PM
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88. K&R I believe, too. n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:13 AM
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89. Quietly optimistic here
I feel like holding my breath at times - but I really think the nation has started to wake up - if not just a little bit.
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Ezekiel in Exile Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:15 AM
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90. My prediction: you will not know November 8--or January 3
Here's why: The Next Katharina Harris?

Forwarned is forearmed.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:25 AM
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91. k&r and maintain our cool. Got it.
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 12:26 AM by oasis
:thumbsup: :yourock:
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:36 AM
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92. All I can do, Will
is what I've been doing all along. I'm going to vote, and send e-mails, and donations, and talk to everybody I know, urging them to get out and vote for Dems. I'm going to be talking much more in these last days, trying to convince some people I know that their vote does count, and we can do something to change the direction our country has been placed on by the corruption and arrogance of the neocons, and those who refuse to think for themselves.

It's all I can do, but I can at least do that. You're right, it's going to be quite a roller coaster ride till all of the votes are counted. Thanks for your encouragement.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:00 AM
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93. Will, no matter what happens thanks
for keeping us informed. Thanks also for at least trying to keep us sane the last 6 years. You will never know how much your words have ment. :yourock:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:54 AM
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97. what's the old cliche
"We will hang together or most assuredly, we will hang separately"

That's pretty much it for me w/ this election. This might be our last chance; we need everybody on our side to help us get Congress back. Everybody.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:04 AM
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98. I believe too.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:06 AM
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99. Spoken like a bard of the Restoration era.
There's fire and cooling water in those words. Oh, the fire, this time.

Thank you, Will.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:09 AM
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100. The future is easy to predict based upon existing variables.
You don't have to be psychic to know that the power-grabbers will not let go easily, if at all, and that they will go to lengths to maintain their grab, as well as create future opportunities both overt and covert. Imagine how they could prosper in the event of another terrorist attack. How much money could be shuffled out of sight, how much control could be taken, how much they could establish practices that would further divide and conquer the nation...

Will they simply give up what they've grabbed through massive orchestration? No. Will they change their minds and play nice? No. Will they become more obviously, disgustingly what they are as they take off their masks as they go after what they want? Yes. They are what they are, and we have to fully accept it and deal with it. However, we certainly can, just as we stared them down regarding the potential theft of Social Security. It's our country when we say so.

"Just what we need, another asshole who can see the future." -Nightwatch
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:44 AM
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101. Thanks
Kicked and Recommended.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:13 PM
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116. ditto that
:dem:
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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:47 AM
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102. Thanks, well said!
:thumbsup:
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:56 AM
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103. Time for us ALL to bring it on
time to hit the bush junta with everything we have
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:06 AM
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104. Is it possible to overcome the culture of fear
that exists in this country thanks to the Repugs? Santorum has just caught a second wind with the gay marriage issue thrust into the faces of Pennsylvania voters - Harold Ford Jr. is now being judged on the merits of a repugnant TV ad versus his ideas and vision for America......in other words, we are moving back into the Rovian world of politics with bogeymen and lies replacing facts and character......I for one am afraid, very afraid of what will happen in just a few short weeks.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely and this Administration will do ANYTHING to perpetuate their stranglehold on Washington.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:15 AM
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105. Thanks, Will. I needed to read this today.
:patriot:
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:30 AM
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107. I Have To Tell You Something
What a Reminder!! My own feeling is that all of this, Iraq, morals, economy, tax breaks for the rich and on and on, become the back burner. If we can't be assured that our vote will count in this country then everything else doesn't even matter! We as people of this country can do nothing about these problems if we can't vote in the people to change it. I am extremely concerned about the voting machines and the part Diebold plays. No paper trail is only a way to failure. If we can't prove how people voted then it is all useless. We know we have the most dishonest government that we have ever had. Why would we even begin to think that they would not do everything they could to be re-elected. This is a very scarey thing to me. It is the most important thing that is before this country at this point in time. As voting people in this country we should be demanding that our vote have a trail that can absolutely prove election results.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:43 AM
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110. Agreed, and welcome
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:41 AM
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109. Words we needed to hear. Thanks!! n/t
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:53 AM
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111. Yes indeedy!!! Anticipation, dread and 6 fucking years of gut-wrenching
agony lumped into (what I also believe to be) the last chance we have as a society to pull out of this free-fall into the Abyss. My greatest fear is the apparent inability of (still too many) to pull their heads from their asses...

Indeed in 12 days now we'll know what the future may hold.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:24 PM
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112. Thanks, Will, I do feel powerless to do more, but do believe
also that we have been right all along about so many things, about just about everything that has gone down in the past years since Clinton.

:kick:

DemEx
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 01:54 PM
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113. Anything could happen, and already did. eom
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:28 PM
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115. What does that mean?
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:20 PM
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117. We are an amazing group of people. We've been in political
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 06:22 PM by Ms. November
darkness for almost six years and have survived the disappointments and frustration and heartbreak. The light is coming and it might hurt our eyes but we will all continue to band together because we know our path is correct: truth, goodness, justice, fairness, hope. Congratulations everyone.

and where will the national celebration bash be held Nov. 8? :party:

:dem:

"Let's Landslide!"
:bounce:

***4 days 'till Mike Malloy****

:crazy:


"disappointments"
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:01 AM
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118. I'm going to kick this until 11/7
so bear with me.
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:54 AM
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119. Thanks Will
I'll keep kicking it too. We are in times not seen.
"Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living" Mother Jones
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:48 AM
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120. What I see
from ground level is people dutifully doing the traditional things, not the tidal wave commensurate with the wrongs done to our country but large in comparison to the past. Fortunately i also see the inevitable and timely meltdown of the GOP image fraud and the price of failure and foolery. That means good can win even though good is not totally in action. That means drama more than inevitability.

Nor are voters- or systems- prepared to deal with denial of their vote. A tidal wave to disable theft is there but maybe not enough for all the races that in fact, if not the counting, we will win. Vote suppression and MSM goodwill efforts for the GOP are not working. October surprise windows are shrinking into ANY headline the last few days will become the last flag of distraction.

Drama- where there should be inevitability. This is the realm of the crisis, like the Cuban Missile crisis or any other brink of ill preparation and violent confrontation of old.

The world is saved by those who do their duty. Until tomorrow, and that is why followthrough would do well to reduce future insane risks like the one we unjustly face election Tuesday.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:18 AM
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121. Yup, another kick
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:34 PM
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122. Kick-a-roo
For all you evilDUers DU!

:patriot:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:58 PM
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123. Andy would be bouncing all over DU rallying us to GOTV
If we see a total rout of the GOP, it will be a culmination of work Andy and so many others began so long ago and have fought every day since.

I am feeling enormous optimism. I refuse to let anyone put a damper on my spirits.

If ever I make it to Boston, I want a sip out of the Andy cup. Like the Holy Grail.

If you haven't seen it yet, here's a link to my new flash video. I dedicate it to all who have worked so tirelessly to GOTV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-nV1x8bkQ8
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:33 PM
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125. I choose to believe he IS. We run on electricity. Where does that energy go
when we shut down? I choose to believe energy cannot be destroyed, especially such a fine energy as Andy had. Who knows, could still be doing his good work in ways we just don't understand.

I like to think he is with us still. Many here work hard with him in mind.

to Andy :toast: to all the tireless patriots :toast:

Onward...
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:16 PM
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124. I thought I 'd feel vindicated when people quit saying, "Oh, Micki! That can't be true!"
I remember telling people that we were going to attack Iraq back in the spring of 2002,when I first joined DU. I was told that I was just being a 'sore loser'. There were so many people who laughed at me, and now they just say nothing.

I fear that many of the elections will again be stolen. The Republicans control too much, especially the media. I hate being negative, but even with the reports that made it into the MSM by Robert Kennedy Jr. and a few others, it is a non-issue with most of the public. Let's hope I am wrong.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 12:03 AM
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126. Pitt Kick.n/t

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 07:48 PM
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128. Kick Pitt?
:evilgrin:
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:29 PM
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130. Chuckle...
To take a moment -- William Pitt's words are always something I look forward to... on topic, timely, well honed. His brush seldom disapoints. His words inspire (like this post), create debate, even piss some people off ...and while not perfect he is honest. We are short on honesty these days.

Why.... he's.... a regular Gurney Halek.


To Will: Here's a pin for your big head ...and many thanks
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 12:48 PM
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132. Yep. Don't always agree with him ( I don't drink enough LOL)
But he ALWAYS gives something for the brain to work on and with.

Lots of other DUers do likewise. Guess that is why we are here kicking this tread...

To DU :toast: (and it's cidar;) )
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:01 AM
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139. yup
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:02 AM
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127. .
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-28-06 09:20 PM
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129. up you go!
:kick:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:36 AM
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131. .
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:13 PM
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133. My dad just emailed this to me
Great piece Will ...

:loveya:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 01:26 PM
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134. Really?
Wow. Thanks! :)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:49 PM
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135. Yes , really
:loveya:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:14 AM
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136. GOOOOOOD morning DU!
Take your vitamins and do some GOTV work along with all the truth you get out there for America!

And think kind thoughts for the DUers who have gone on beyond this life. I choose to hope they are with us in spirit. They and us are all part of the lifeline that works to save America in these stormy times.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 01:34 PM
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137. Thump
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 06:20 PM
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138. .
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:26 AM
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140. Kerry kick
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