"We all had the same (war) intelligence".. a counter spin to it

[SoCalDem]

NO we DIDN'T..

For YEARS, the republican controlled congress ROUTINELY EXCLUDED democrats from meetings and briefings..

HOW MANY TIMES were "only republicans" invited to the white house??


The whole war run up was collusion and fraud.. not a "little white lie' or "bad information". It was a calculated PLAN...a method to funnel money into the bank accounts of the "rent-a-soldier" corporations, Halluiburton, KB&R, Bechtel, and others. It was a PLAN to keep the "little people" scared enough to hold a republican majority.

and of course democrats did not
have/receive the same intelligence. To do that would be to raise questions about the plan.

Democrats were probably only given worst-case scenarios, so they WOULD support a war..and in doing so, provide "cover" for the underhanded, money-grubbing, pseudo-patriots who were in it for political and monetary gain

[keta11]

1. Poland had the same intelligence, too!!

[RC]

2. I knew before bu$h's war that there were no WMD in Iraq.

Not think, not believe, but KNEW, as did hundreds of thousands of people around the world. Anyone who had paid any attention to Iraq during the bu$h I & Clinton administrations knew Saddam was a paper tiger.

[Agit8dChop]

3. Proof.. what proof!

What a lie.

They lied and the dont even have to backup there claims?

Think about this...

They made months, and months and months of statements saying they had un-deniable PROOF of saddams WMD Programmes, of the stockpiles, of the link with alqaeda....

WE went to war on this.

When it turns out they had NO WMD's, they had NO STOCK PILES and there was NO LINK..

it begs the question..

exactly what evidence COULD YOU OF POSSIBLEY had in your hand, that suggested what you stated?

I mean.. for there to be 'undeniable EVIDENCE ' there has to be something to have evidence of...

This goes hand in hand with John Howard that snivvling litte leader who has no decency about him.

He spouted the same rhetoricas the bush admin..
'' saddam must be stopped ''
'' saddams wmds ''
rah rah rah..........

So my howard, wat possible evidence DID YOU HAVE?
You must of had evidence, being you sent your own troops into this war zone to protect us..

surely... you didnt send in troops, and follow the usa simply because they told YOU they had proof too?

I mean that would be pretty damn stupid of a leader, not to demand proof of such a drastic statement.
You'd think he'd atleast need evidence of the claims that mean his troop go to war..

but unfortunaetly not.

John Howard followed the USA in simply because he felt like a little man.
And he was.

He saw the opportunity to have his photo taken side by side with the US President.
HE was goign to get to sit in the whitehouse, and discuss world affairs with the world leader..
man that must of been exhilerating.. no one else gets that chance after all.

all he had to do, was condem his country into a illegial war.

Well im glad howard feels special on the world stage..
Im glad he got his kodak moment with GWbush...

because unforunately thats all he got.
That free trade bush promised us if we followed..

he renegged...

So we lost the incentive to follow,
we lost world credability when we followed,
we lost our innocence on the world stage,
and now.. we are losing men and money.

All because John howard wanted his photo taken with GWBush.

What have we become?

[greenman3610]

4. great thread on this topic

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3394174