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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:34 AM
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Yes, 57 %. No, 84 %. No opinion, 15%.
http://www.omaha.com/#poll6753
This is too perfect.


Apparently they are incorporating some alternative
theories of mathematics.

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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:35 AM
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1. ermm.. those aren't percentages....
.. those are the count of votes.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:31 AM
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10. Alternate theories of mathmatics?
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:36 AM
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2. Those might be the number of people voting instead of percentages.
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:29 AM
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9. I used to work for Omaha.com, and there is a reason for these numbers...
Waaaay back in the day (late 90s), I worked there. I was part of the team that built the site.

I originally wrote the voting/poll software that was used on the site. Not a complicated piece of code, by any means. However, I remember the first date that it went live (sometime in 1998). Within hours, World-Herald brass contacted our team and demanded be remove the poll entirely. World-Herald executive management was paranoid that people would interpret the on-line poll as a scientific study.

Ultimately, we reached a compromise with them. We were forced to change the display of percentages to number of votes tallied. That way, nobody would be able to just rattle off a percentage to a co-worker or friend which was scientifically invalid. Whatever.

The World-Herald executive management are absolutely the most insane group of people you'd ever imagine running a newspaper.

I should write some memoirs about my experiences there... It was a trip.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:44 AM
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13. or the number of people WAITING to vote
you know how it is with e-voting... :evilgrin:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:36 AM
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3. LOL!
I guess those Christian votes count more. :rofl:
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:46 AM
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4. When I was in college we explored all the theories even Gaiea theory
I have no problem with kids questioning anything. I have no problem with exploring any avenue. Science is based on questions... that's how we have some of the great things that we do today. If a child wants to study a theory and test the hypothesis, then do it. Its the problem solving and process of logical thought that is most important in science.

Had we not questioned? Would the world still be flat?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:55 AM
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5. No, High school is NOT the time
for students to question established science using mythology as the starting point.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:06 AM
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7. When is the time to ask questions? When is the time to explore
all ideas and thoughts. Not all children go to college. We turn out young adults polarized on issues without sound logical thought. And mythology is still a topic that is studied within the class rooms. I have no problem with any child learning and exploring. It is not going to mess with them to form a hypothesis and test it. Evolution is still a theory. Big bang is still a theory. These are not LAWS!!!

I am a scientist. It is in the nature of science to question and proceed in a methodical, logical procedure in order to test and examine anything. If I had been squashed by my questioning by my school, I might not have pursued my college career in science. The way that my professor at college approached this was to explain all the theories of how we all began. He did not say one is right or one is wrong. It was put out there as, "these are the theories that have been hypothesized." I would rather my child know there are all types of hypothesis, rather than cut and dry cookie cutter b.s. that schools have become. I would rather them think outside the box, rather than follow the leader blindly. Look where it has gotten us. People not questioning the very nature of their surroundings. Blindly following the leader. Understand this, most high school students will not continue a career in science. The idea of science in its very nature is to question and then test. Usually those tests lead to more questions. Its a never ending cycle.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:55 AM
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14. Pooja, you talk like a mole for the ID crowd.
Suggesting alternative theories is fine, but the discussion must be limited to scientific theories, not mythological or religious ones. The one thing freepers hate is that they have no basis for redefining what constitutes good science. In most cases I have encountered, they have no clue what good science is. They only know that someone told them that evolution is "junk science," when in fact it is one of the most rock solid classes of knowledge out there.

I'm sorry, but the people "blindly following the leader" are all from the religious right, not the secular scientific side. They're the ones asking us to believe a few dozen Bible verses in lieu of 200 years of scientific research and study. That is a religious approach, not a scientific one. Yes, science is about the questions, but it is also about the answers, which must be testable, repeatable, provable, and logically consistant. Once again I see you using the logical fallacy of demoting the term "theory" into the same category as a hypothesis, and a bad hypothesis at that. Saying, "It's only a theory" is a classic use of derogation the religious right has been engaged in for decades. It is the root cause, IMO, of the decline in scientific study and research in America.

In science, questions are about physical processes, evidence, and proofs, not supreme beings and divine intervention. If you want to discuss alternative theories, fine. But offer up an alternative based on scientific research, not Bible verses.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:53 PM
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15. Thank you for proving me exactly right.
It is closed minded people that don't discover new things. It is open minded people who will cure cancer and aids. Looking beyond the normal is what is needed in scientific discovery.

Can you name all the theories regarding the beginning of time? How do you define time? How many dimensions are there? How do you understand these dimensions when you can barely cope with the 3 tangible ones you have?

I am not going to go any further on with this discusion. People laughed at Chris columbo for saying the world was round. It seems rather silly now. I'm not even saying that I believe in the Creationist theory... but I am big enough and smart enough to know what defines me and what defines rational thought.

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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:55 AM
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6. er...um...
that chart does not seem to show percentages...nor does it suggest in any way percentages.

Oh well...would have been funny if it were percentages.

sP
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Dick Diver Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:33 AM
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8. Actually, it still is funny...
perhaps just not in the way the OP intended. "Too perfect."
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:37 AM
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11. Bwahahahahahah .... "Alternate" rather than "Alternative"
So they are just going to alternate theories they teach? One day theach theory A, next day teach theory B, then on day three alternate back to teaching theory A again. Good plan. Bwahahahahahaha ....
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:39 AM
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12. Those are the numbers of votes for each. Not the percentages.
:eyes:
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