The embryos are regularly thrown in the trash...

[boolean]

Can we PLEASE not forget that aspect of the argument? These people have nothing against in vitro, even though embryos are thrown out.

Here's another: The woman's body naturally expels embryos all the time if she's not in the right part of the cycle. (Note: I'm not exactly an expert at all this, so feel free to correct any bullshit I might type here...But I'm pretty sure about the above...)

Another: They freely ADMIT that cures for certain diseases are up to 15 years away. They fucking SAY it in that "rebuttal" commercial. So tell me, Mr. Warner, why a 15 year wait is unacceptable.

Mrs. Heaton: You have a problem with people donating eggs (NOT embryos!). WHAT THE FUCK FOR? I didn't know EGGS were humans.

[Hav]

1. .

They are ignorant and want everybody else following their ideology. It doesn't have to make sense. For them it equals killing babies.

[bunkerbuster1]

2. This is the same mind-set that things IUDs and birth control pills are murder

While most people think of pregnancy beginning with the implantation of a fertilized egg, some extremists believe that the moment an egg is fertilized, it's a human being. You know, with a soul, headed for heaven or hell or whatever.

So according to this twisted logic, any sexually active woman (including happily married Republican soccer moms, I guess) who prevents that egg from implanting, and instead warshes that sucka away with the monthly cycle, is "committing murder."

They really do believe this. They have worked to give pharmacists the "right" to refuse to fill birth control prescriptions on account of this.

So no, I'm not especially surprised by this opposition, by this element, to stem cell research.

It is, however, a rather miniscule sliver of the population who take such an extreme stance, and a total loser of an issue for the GOPee.

[gratuitous]

3. And of course, the ultimate squelch

You, Mr. or Ms. "Pro Lifer", are in a fertilization laboratory taking a little tour. There are other people along, of course. Included in the group is a couple that have had three kids thanks to the clinic's efforts. You're looking at a room with several canisters of sealed embryos, each one containing hundreds of fertilized eggs. Suddenly, the fire alarm sounds! Everybody out, and I mean now! The couple with their children can't scoop up all three, and they ask you to grab their little girl, a toddler, lest she be trampled in the rush to get out.

So, what do you do? Do you snatch up the three-year-old, or do you save one of the canisters of fertilized eggs? You only have a second to decide.

[focusfan]

9. I save the 3 year old no thought needed

[gratuitous]

11. And so would most folks

And the "embryo is a person" crowd will probably acknowledge the same thing. But why would they save just one person, the little girl, and sacrifice those hundreds of persons in the canister? Why wouldn't they save the most people they could? Unless, of course, they're just posturing about those fertilized eggs being persons. But we know that's not the case. Imagine playing on people's emotions just for political gain!

[mmonk]

4. You're applying logic. I think they apply emotion.

[SheilaT]

5. A woman's body does NOT

expel embryos all the time. She doesn't even expel an unfertilized egg since the egg disintegrates and its detritus is simply part of the menstrual flow.

Let's review: egg, fertilized egg, blastocyte, embryo, fetus, baby. I may have missed a named step or two, but to say that the woman's body expels embryos all the time if she's not in the right part of the cycle shows a major ignorance of the cycle.

[Arkansas Granny]

6. I think in your second sentence you are referring to what is

medically known as a spontaneous abortion.

"Spontaneous abortion is a very common experience for women. It is estimated that between 25-50% of conceptions spontaneously abort. Researchers do not have an exact figure due to the fact that when this occurs very early on, many women do not know that they were ever pregnant."

More here: http://www.estronaut.com/a/spontaneous_abortion_common.htm

[originalpckelly]

7. The thing is, most of these conservative purposefully confuse a fetus...

and an embryo. They also purposefully obfuscate the fact you posted. They don't have the guts to stand up to in vitro fertilization which creates the unused embryos, because it is such a widely accepted practice.

[AllegroRondo]

8. How do you think they would react

to a law that requires people seeking in vitro fertilization to carry EVERY embryo to term?

[NYCGirl]

10. Here's a picture of what is used in stem cell research: