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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:45 PM
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BUSH THE BIGOT: "There's Some Kind of Reward During Ramadan for Violence"
Thursday, October 26, 2006

Bush: "There's some kind of reward during Ramadan for violence"
by John in DC - 10/26/2006 07:39:00 PM

What's the reward for being a bigot? Interview needs to be read to be believed.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/10/bush-theres-some-kind-of-reward-during.html

Then he goes on: "I believe when you get attacked and somebody declares war on you, you fight back. And that's what we're doing." Of course, this ignores the fact that Iraq did not declare war on us -- but it's been so long now, maybe he's just forgotten.

A critical moment arrives when Bush announces, "And I'm trying to figure out a matrix that says things are getting better. I think that one way to measure is less violence than before, I guess. We'll have to see what happens here after Ramadan. I believe these people -- oh, I was going to tell you Abizaid believes Ramadan, no question, caused them to be more violent because he says there's some kind of reward during Ramadan for violence."

Memo to the president: Ramadan ended three days ago and the number of Americans killed continues to surge, with at least five killed in the past day alone.

more at:
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003315514
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:53 PM
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1. It would not surprize me at all if money was exchanging hands for killings.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:10 PM
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2. "If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoon."
One of them thinks that would be a good slogan.

(snip)

Sometimes the columnists offered Bush suggestions on how to sell the war on terror. This happened after the president described the enemy, bizarrely, in the broadest terms: "We will press and press and press to protect ourselves. And this stuff about how Iraq is causing the enemy -- whatever excuse they need, they have made up their mind to attack, and they grab on to things to kind of justify. But if it's not Iraq, it's Israel. If it's not Israel, it's the Crusades. If it's not the Crusades, it is the cartoon. I'm not kidding you. I'm not kidding you."

This provokes "laughter," according to the transcript. But Bush presses on. "They are cold-blooded killers."

"If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoon -- that's a good slogan," one of his guests suggests.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:11 PM
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3. Well Ramadan is over
and four soldiers and a sailor were killed today. So what is this about now?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:44 PM
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4. There are such that believe this.
http://www.freemuslims.org/news/article.php?article=189
"Jihad fighters everywhere! This month of Jihad has come with all its blessings and with the double reward in its course. Come closer to Allah through the blood of infidels, do not relent in spilling , and through wipe out humiliation and disgrace from among your Muslim nation! Make this month like the month of the Battle of Badr,(2) the conquest of Mecca,(3) of Shaqhab,(4) and other Islamic victories."

The loons believing this are, appropriately, AQ. Salafists. Odd, that * should have heard of this philosophy. (Or that Salafists are so bigoted against Islam :-)

Apparently this is an extension of an older idea, "Particularly deserving martyrs are even eligible for double the standard reward, some hadith report" (citing some journal ... see the link for the scant details there). http://bahai-library.org/theses/dying/dying4.islam.html#fn16 Presumably dying during Ramadhan makes you particularly deserving.

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The fatalities continue unabated, however. This is the highest death toll in one month since last October (i.e., the beginning Ramadan), which ended Monday, Tuesday, or even Wednesday (parts of Pakistan, that last one). Spill over, perhaps; or a real intensification of the conflict caused by Iraqis, or an intensification caused by Americans. We'll be able to rule out the first next week, perhaps over the weekend. The other two will be harder to tease apart, I fear.
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