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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:53 AM
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Three vote fraud questions
1. Where did the 18181 vote totals take place? Was it Texas?

2. Is there a good link to expound upon the 15 point swing between the polls and the vote when Cleland lost in 2002?

3. What is the number to call if you're getting screwed at the polls?

Thanks.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:55 AM
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1. especially #3. kick
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:57 AM
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2. Will, it was Texas that had the 18,181 numbers.
Winning vote totals uncanny - everyone gets 18,181 votes
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By Roger Croteau
San Antonio Express-News
www.mysanantonio.com/spec...xlc=860675

Web Posted : 11/08/2002 12:00 AM

NEW BRAUNFELS — What are the odds?
Let's just say it's the proverbial "astronomical."

Comal County elections officials noticed an extreme oddity after the final votes were tallied in Tuesday's general election.

County Judge Danny Scheel received 18,181 votes in his victory over Lois Duggan.

Republican state Sen. Jeff Wentworth also got 18,181 votes in Comal County in his win over Democrat Joseph Sullivan and Libertarian Rex Black.

To make matters even stranger, Comal County also gave Republican Carter Casteel exactly 18,181 votes in her victory over Democrat Virgil Yanta in the race for District 73 state representative.

"Isn't that the weirdest thing?" County Clerk Joy Streater asked. "We noticed it right away, but it is just a big coincidence. I checked the precincts and the numbers are all different in every precinct for each of them. They just coincidentally all add up to 18,181."

Scheel hadn't noticed the anomaly.

"I'll be darned," he said when it was pointed out to him. "Look at that. That's weird."

Maybe it's not as weird as the daily Pick 3 lottery drawing in New York coming up 911 on the anniversary of Sept. 11, 2001.

And it's not as odd as 202 people showing up to vote in alphabetical order at Box 13 in Jim Wells County in 1948, and all voting for Lyndon Baines Johnson, giving him an 89-vote margin of victory in the U.S. Senate race against Coke Stephenson.

But since some of those "voters" were dead or later testified at hearings that they did not, in fact, vote, some people don't consider that incident a coincidence as much as a fraud.

In Comal County, it's just the weirdest thing.

rcroteau@express-news.net

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Much more here at http://pub103.ezboard.com/fsoldiervoicefrm49.showMessage?topicID=12.topic
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:58 AM
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3. More 18,181 links.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:01 AM
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4. #3 - might depend on the state
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 09:03 AM by FLDem5
In Florida 1- 877-868-3737.

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/fraud/index.shtml

California it is a statewide Voter Fraud Hotline (1-800-345-VOTE)

http://vote96.ss.ca.gov/Vote96/html/voter/fraud.htm

In Kentucky it appears to be 1-800-328-VOTE

http://www.kentucky.gov/Newsroom/sos/article46.htm
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:01 AM
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5. ahhh those magical GA Diebold machines.....
http://www.alternet.org/story/16474

USA Today reported on Nov. 3, 2002, "In Georgia, an Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll shows Democratic Sen. Max Cleland with a 49%-to-44% lead over Republican Rep. Saxby Chambliss." Cox News Service, based in Atlanta, reported just after the election (Nov. 7) that, "Pollsters may have goofed" because "Republican Rep. Saxby Chambliss defeated incumbent Democratic Sen. Max Cleland by a margin of 53 to 46 percent. The Hotline, a political news service, recalled a series of polls Wednesday showing that Chambliss had been ahead in none of them."

Just as amazing was the Georgia governor's race. "Similarly," the Zogby polling organization reported on Nov. 7, "no polls predicted the upset victory in Georgia of Republican Sonny Perdue over incumbent Democratic Gov. Roy Barnes. Perdue won by a margin of 52 to 45 percent. The most recent Mason Dixon Poll had shown Barnes ahead 48 to 39 percent last month with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 points."
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:03 AM
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6. The number to call for help is 1-888-DEM-VOTE
http://www.dnc.org/a/national/election_reform/voting_rights/vri/



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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 09:05 AM
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7. Somewhat decent link trying to explain Cleland's "loss."
It doesn't talk about Cleland with a 15-point lead previously; more like a 2 to 5 point lead. It's a start, but not a be-all, end-all.

http://votergate.blogspot.com/2004/11/voting-irregularities-are-similar-to.html
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