This is the machine we actually STILL USE where I vote.

[Atman]

No kidding. I trust its accuracy far more than that of any of the people I've cast votes for on it.



Amazing, huh? Iron clad, lots of redundant security features. I'm so sorry for all of you stuck with e-machines. There is nothing as satisfying as the sound of that mechanical clunk of your vote actually being recorded!

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[Captain Hilts]

1. When maintained, they're really accurate and reliable. I read that NYState

stopped using them only because they couldn't get parts for them.

[Atman]

2. We have extras...they cannibalize repair parts from them.

There is a town machinist that is responsible for making repairs, and parts they can't cannibalize.

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[Stephanie]

6. We still use them in NY

That's what I vote on. It's fun! You get to pull this big lever, twice!

[Jack Rabbit]

3. I used one of those to cast my vote in my first general election

I lived in San Francisco at the time.

[Wilms]

4. Here's a Lever Movie from back in the day.

Behind the Freedom Curtain (1957)

http://www.archive.org/details/Behindth1957

[ashling]

5. I liked that machine

Something abou stepping inside the curtain. Pull the lever and the curtain closes and its just you with the whole ballot right there in front of you. and you physically push down the lever for your candidate ... then pull that lever and get the feeling that you are really part of something!

[buddysmellgood]

7. These also can be tampered with, but it's much, much, much harder to do so

and have an impact on the election. Think of it. You'd have to screw with each machine physically. It's not like you can just log on.

[FogerRox]

8. AVM Printomatic still has parts available for it

Look at the graphic, Jamestown... google AVM jamestown... and then Google Liberty voting, thats the DRE they sell.

The only lever still supported by an ongoing supplier.

[FogerRox]

11. Here

http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/7659/9945.html?1160420554


Distributed in New York by:
Voting Machine Service Center.-- (This is the company that sells Serices the AVM Printmatic Lever voting machine, which is at least 50 years old and still viable.)
PO Box 261
Gerry NY, 14740
716-387-2090
Ext 202= President Dale Marshall
Ext 205= Cust. Service, Mike Caruso

Liberty Election Systems:
11 Sand Creek Road, Suite 100
Albany, NY 12205
518-489-4573


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=HPID%2CHPID%3A2006-33%2CHPID%3Aen&q=AVM+NY+voting

Witco is backed by one of the most experienced election machine repairmen in the U.S. Dale Marshall, who runs Voting Machine Service Center Inc., near Jamestown. Marshall's company is Liberty's technical support partner. It's at his plant that the Liberty machines would be assembled.


http://www.votersunite.org/article.asp?id=6168

[Atman]

12. Cool! I'll see if the town knows about this

I imagine they do, but you never know. They might just be choosing the "cannibalization" route because we have excess machines anyway.

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[spuddonna]

9. That's the one I voted on the first time!

I think they finally replaced them in my hometown with touch screen crap... :( What a fiasco...

[Bozita]

10. I remember buying four of those circa 1982

Used. Paid $800 each.

We used them for our union elections and rented them out to municipalities, school districts, and anyone who had need.

We quickly learned that any money earned through rental was similar to the costs of moving these steel behemoths. IIRC, they weighed in over 300 pounds. Each.

Bad investment.