And I thought the N.J. gay marriage flame wars of last week were bad! . . .

[cboy4]

:eyes:

We sure like to eat our own, don't we?

[SammyWinstonJack]

1. It would seem so.

[Taxloss]

2. DU needs a "Shiny Thing!" forum. n/t

[MercutioATC]

7. Best idea I've heard in a long time!

:toast:

[TahitiNut]

22. Over 250 threads on the "Kerry/troops" mini-gaffe ... what total bullshit.

The right-wing calls the tune and DU argues about tempo. Fucking insane.

[Taxloss]

26. 250? Really?

I knew that I was having to hide a lot of threads, but 250 is incredible! And there's the evening to come ...

[TahitiNut]

32. That's 272 in GD and 84 in GD:P -- over 350 threads!

That's by looking for the word 'Kerry' in the Subject Line of the Original Message ... so it doesn't count the threads that sidestep the direct mention of 'Kerry' in the subject line (like this one, for example).

It doesn't count LBN, either.

It's outrageous overkill and self-centered arrogance on the part of many of those original posters - as though what they started a new thread about was so fuckling 'unique' or important that it wasn't already said countless times ... if they'd even bothered to read what others posted (which we don't).

The rudeness and disrespect being shown to others on DU is appalling, imho.

[cboy4]

37. It was outrageous last week, and it's just as outrageous this

week!! :(

[jobycom]

3. Well, either that, or some people who aren't our own dress up

in our skins and eat ours.

[bryant69]

4. Ah yes the secret freepers

Because obviosly no real member of DU would express opinion X.



Bryant
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[Taxloss]

6. It's reached the "witchhunt" phase of fad so soon?

Normally it takes about 48 hours.

[jobycom]

8. Not all that secret

And yes, there are certain opinions no real Democrat would express.

[bryant69]

9. And in this case, what would those be?

What opinion am I not allowed to have and remain a real Democrat?

For clarity's sake, I do think that Republicans are twisting Kerry's words and his response yesterday was very well done. On the other hand, if he had just gotten it right in the first place, that would probably have been better.

Bryant

[jobycom]

13. If you have to ask, you've already answered.

And glad you feel that way about Kerry. I'd disagree and say that Kerry did get it right in the first place, and the Repubs are furious because they are terrified that America will understand him. THAT's the real reason behind this over-reaction. It's a typical Republican response--redirect the argument so that the truth is considered a terrible thing to say, so people are afraid to speak it.

Kerry's comments exposed a painful truth about the invasion, the economy, and the educational system, and there are just too many people out there for whom that truth means something. The Republicans have to make that subject off limits as quickly and as completely as possible, before the victims of that truth wake up.

Shame on ANYONE agreeing with the Republicans over this.

[bryant69]

17. Laughs

I applaud your efficiency. You should run the secret freeper ferret squad.

Bryant

[Mabus]

5. You think this is bad

wait until we take power and the various Democratic factions disagree about something.

[Redneck Socialist]

10. And if you think that's bad...

wait until '08 and we get to fight the primary wars all over again. :scared:

[Mabus]

11. over again?

some people are still fighting over 2004.

But I know what you mean and that's exactly what I'm talking about.

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. LOL...DU Primaries are BRUTAL!

:scared: Plan on leaving here bloody EVERYDAY! It doesn't hurt to don the flme retardant suit before logging on either.;)

[cboy4]

16. You mean like repealing the ban on gays in the military and adding

gay marriage rights to the Democratic platform? :shrug:

That outta generate some:

[Mabus]

31. Those issues might ruffle some feathers

but I think they needed to be added to the Democratic platform asap. People are people. I was born with brown skin and I'll die with brown skin. Why? Because that's who I am. Some people were born gay and they will die gay. Why? Because that's who they are. My brown skin doesn't make me any less human although there are some ignorant people who believe it does. Being born gay doesn't make a person any less human although there are some ignorant people who believe it does. I deserve the same rights and privileges accorded every other citizen of my country. GLBT people deserve the same rights and privileges accorded to every other citizen too. If I want to adopt a child, buy a house or allow my life partner the right to determine if I should be resuscitated I have that right without fear that it will be denied to me based on something I had absolutely no control over like the color of my skin. GLBT people should have the right to adopt a child, buy a house and allow their life partners the right to determine whether to resuscitate them without fear that they will be denied based on something they have absolutely no control over like their sexual orientation. I have the right not to be discriminated against by my own government if I choose to enlist in the military. GLBT people should have the right not to be discriminated against by their own government should they choose to enlist in the military. I have the right to marry, so should every citizen of the United States.

I want what was expressed in the Declaration of Independence, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness," for everyone.

[cboy4]

33. I hope you know

you're a good person!! :pals:

And thank you.

[Mabus]

34. Thank you.

It's what I believe and my beliefs explain why I'm a Democrat. :patriot:


fwiw, I'm in Kansas and I'm not lone voice here. From what I can tell, all the local Kansas and Missouri DU'ers I have met would say the same thing.

:hug: and :grouphug: because we're all on this wild ride together.

[NMMNG]

12. Well,

If Kerry hadn't made that joke about the NJ decision while IMing Foley about the nuke testing in Korea none of this would have happened. :shrug:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

14. ...

:spray:

Jesus Christ, now I've got Diet Pepsi Twist all over my iBook screen.

[NMMNG]

21. What can I say?

I'm just full of snark lately. :shrug:

[cboy4]

18. You're too much Buff. ;)

[NMMNG]

23. All of the women say that.

;-)

[cboy4]

27. Nice!

NOT!

;)

[Taxloss]

20. LOL

I like your sig line as well, I haven't seen it before.

[NMMNG]

24. I saw it online somehwere

It put into words what I'd been thinking for a long time.

[EFerrari]

25. LOL!

We don't seem to have many meditators here, do we. :)

[NMMNG]

28. I need to get into that someday

I keep telling myself to try it out, but I never get around to it.

[EFerrari]

29. Maybe thinking about it counts.

:evilgrin:

[NMMNG]

30. Yes...I'm meditating about meditating

How very Zen. :rofl:

[LeftCoast]

15. What'd I miss?

Hmm...Maybe I don't wanna know. :)

[wholetruth00]

19. Just show you how desperate the Republicans are. They have to make MAJOR

issue out of anything that is NOT Iraq or what is happening to the middle class in this country.

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. YUP...BREAKFAST, LUNCH, AND DINNER!

:(