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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:34 PM
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Diebold asks HBO to cancel e-voting documentary — HBO says "NO"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3iu1kJn0r6mbv3%2Fo%2FXp2Eq9A%3D%3D

HBO Vetoes Diebold's Docu Request

HBO rejected a call by Diebold Election Systems to pull the documentary "Hacking Democracy" from its schedule or air company disclaimers questioning the accuracy of film.

In a letter to HBO chairman and CEO Chris Albrecht, Diebold seeks to have 30-second disclaimers before, after and during the docu that is critical of the computerized election systems that are used in most precincts nationwide. The film is scheduled to air Thursday.

HBO spokesman Jeff Cusson said the company "stands by our film and has no intention of withdrawing the film from its schedule."

Diebold contends that previews of the docu contains serious "material errors" that make the film inaccurate.
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GardeningGal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:37 PM
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1. Good for HBO!!!
I don't currently subscribe, but this may prompt me to.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:38 PM
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2. contains serious "material errors" ?????? WTF
pot meet kettle - WTF!!!!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:05 PM
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13. more like "reveals proprietary information", i hope...
watch for a lawsuit, soon. Betcha.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:31 PM
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36. Voting technology should not be proprietary...
"Democracy should not be proprietary" Hey, that sounds like a nice slogan. Hmm....
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:14 PM
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38. You are correct
The vote tabulating method is not a defense secret. The public has the right to know how its votes are counted. Keeping it a secret undermines democracy.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:19 PM
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18. One claim is Diebold was involved with the 2000 election debacle...
...problem is, Diebold entered the election systems business in 2001 when they purchased Global Election Systems, which had been in the business since 1991.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:29 PM
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26. But apparently those dates were taken from another docu, not........
the one they're airing tomorrow night. Diebold is complaining about a different documentary altogether, the one released in the U.K. Leave it to Diebold to screw THAT up as well. The company that can't do anything correctly, except guarantee Republicans victories, that is. :eyes:
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:32 PM
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27. LOL - like Diebold has a right to expect quality control or integrity from others.
Diebold's used to getting what it wants from our government without too many questions. I'm sure they're not familiar with anything getting out of their hands.

I await the day when there's a citizens' lawsuit against Diebold for disenfranchisement.
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:40 PM
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3. Don't you just love HBO
I had to cancel because of money woes but boy do I wish I could see this one. However, millions will see it and that's more important.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:41 PM
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4. You don't think Bev Harris
is going to bleed some of her Crazytown BS in this thing?

The only reason I'd watch it would be for seeing ANDY, a FILM ABOUT HARRIS?

Don't forget WHO this Movie is ABOUT -- the one who MANY feel they were RIPPED OFF.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:02 PM
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59. Despite Bev, Andy was involved in making this movie even after he got sick.
This was after Bev had done all she could to discredit and sabotage his credibility. Andy was very proud to be a part of it. I was told this yesterday by his partner, termite.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:45 PM
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5. Thank God for that! GO HBO! Go Andy S! n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:45 PM
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6. What time tonight? n/t
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:50 PM
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7. I'd like to know too. When are they airing this?
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:51 PM
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9. tomorrow night
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:02 PM
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12. Thanks n/t
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:51 PM
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8. Thursday 9 eastern 8 central
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:52 PM
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10. Here's a link to the schedule..
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 12:55 PM by SoCalDem
It probably depends on your time zone, but I'm sure it will be rerun throughout the week :)

After looking at the schedule, I don;t even see it listed :shrug:

http://www.hbo.com/apps/schedule/ScheduleServlet?ACTION_TODAY=TODAY&ntrack_para1=topnav7
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:02 PM
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11. "Diebold seeks to have 30-second disclaimers before, after and during"
I don't PAY for HBO for disclaimers. Either it is accurate or not. If it is accurate, run it.

If Diebold objects, there are remedies for that too.

HBO isn't CBS.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:08 PM
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14. Diebold bullies
don't want anyone to see it...now I gotta see it.

:thumbsup: HBO
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:03 PM
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15. I think a "hell no" is in order.
Hi NYCGirl!
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Old Smokey Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:04 PM
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16. Way to go HBO
that a way to stand up to those election rigging assholes
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:07 PM
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17. HA! FINALLY someone's standing up to DIEBOLD!
If the film is inaccurate...sue HBO AND PROVE IT, rat bastartds.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:39 PM
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19. Ironic how Diebold has an issue with "material errors" when
it couldn't care less about the material errors associated with its crooked machines. :eyes:
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:45 PM
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20. This is one reason why I broke down and got satellite
HBO has been doing tremendous work in its own programming, stuff you can't see anywhere else. The NERVE of Diebold to demand this shit. Kick their asses, HBO. I'll be watching tomorrow along with millions of others. You rock...and you might consider allowing a second showing to be free for cable and sat subscribers who don't get HBO. They did a free weekend last week; another free weekend just before the elections would be incredible and very, very patriotic.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:10 PM
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21. Now THIS is hilarious...
Diebold also writes that the film is "directed by the directors of 'VoterGate' and contains much of the same material. 'VoterGate' was produced with special thanks to Susan Sarandon and the Streisand Foundation."

First of all dummies, it is NOT directed by the same directors:

IMDb also lists "VoterGate" as "Hacking Democracy's" working title in the U.K.

The original "VoterGate" is a different movie, different directors. Diebold is obviously confused. Or being misleading (imagine that).

But Diebold's implication that "produced with special thanks to Susan Sarandon and the Streisand Foundation" automatically renders it suspect, is just, well, laughable.

So Diebold, here's a big :rofl: for you, and your idiot lawyers, and your lame attempt to muzzle free speech.


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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:17 PM
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22. Sorry Diebold, fuck you very much.
The truth hurts.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:22 PM
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23. Oh sure, NOW they're concerned about accuracy.
If it's just a trivial thing like your constitutional right to vote, ballpark is good enough.

"You want a recount? Here's the same damn number again. Now piss off."
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:39 AM
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52. They make ATM machines and we know banks don't except errors
Banks would have already lost and misplaced billions if Diebolds ATM's were as inaccurate their voting machines. There is no possible explanation or excuse other than Republican operatives running Diebold were looking to cheat people out of their vote
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:27 PM
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24. Ooh I'm shocked... SHOCKED!
:rofl:

Those people are SCUM!

A big :thumbsup: for HBO. :)
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:27 PM
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25. HBO Thank Jesus is one of the few propaganda free zones
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 03:28 PM by Generator
Bill Maher..Wanda Sykes..Rosanne Barr...great documentries-you don't have to agree with them but DAMN here's a myth that it's in my craw-the troops have not made us more free. My liberty is diminishing every damn day thanks to this war. I'm so tired of the myth of America. FREEDOM not only isn't free it's only holding on due to cash-(you gotta pay for HBO)

But you can have a whole national tragedy made a mockery of for free! ABC.
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volstork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 04:02 PM
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28. I plan to subscribe now
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:25 PM
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29. KICK
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:25 PM
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30. Good!
:bounce:
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:26 PM
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31. Diebold needs to be brought under federal investigation..
They all of a sudden have too my power over the voting process.
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:27 PM
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32. You know...
It makes me just a little warm and fuzzy inside to know that it is my years-long, ongoing cable subscription to HBO that helped make this possible.

No need to thank me.

Oh, and HBO? Yes, let me just say that :yourock:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:32 PM
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43. Oh yes there is--and thank me too!
I'm rather proud to support a pay TV enterprise that is willing to air risky, challenging programming like this and "When the Levees Broke."

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:47 PM
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33. Kick! Pass this story on!
:thumbsup:
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:10 PM
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34. I wonder if HBO will crack under "pressure"......kinda like JK has done
over his "joke". I didn't think he should have apologized. :kick:
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 10:35 AM
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53. He didn't apologize
He offered his understanding to people that were too ignorant to know they were taken for a ride by msm.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:29 PM
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35. This is HUGE! - Olberman needs to comment on this one bigtime!!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:55 PM
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44. Diebold was the "Worst Person in the World" tonight for this. NT
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:40 PM
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37. Letting voting machines count the votes...
...it's like letting a stranger count the votes all by himself in a locked room. :banghead:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 01:04 AM
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51. That's no stranger. Diebold is well known for installing illegal
software patches in its machines in Georgia in 2002 before the stunning Republican upset
victory, and for installing illegal software in its machines in California and lying
about it. Not to mention attempting to bribe election officials in Ohio with
contributions.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:37 PM
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39. "It appears the film Diebold is responding to is not the film HBO is airing,"
Seems they used their machines to decide which film to whine about.

But more importantly:

Diebold also writes that the film is "directed by the directors of 'VoterGate' and contains much of the same material. 'VoterGate' was produced with special thanks to Susan Sarandon and the Streisand Foundation."


Oh? Is this not a complaint that could only come from a Republican Company ?!?

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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:46 PM
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40. I wonder how HBO's freshly grown set of balls
will last before de-materializing?
I just hope it's after tomorrow night1
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:58 PM
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41. Thank you HBO...my tivo is set nm
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:02 PM
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42. Diebold does need serious investigation, this sh*t's gotta stop! freedom in
america? - and we can't get a legit election, this is how much the USA has gone the toilet since Bushco came into office!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:58 PM
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45. I just rewarded HBO for this...
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 09:59 PM by Eric J in MN
...by switching from Cinemax to HBO.
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:01 PM
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46. HBO BRAVO! nt
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:50 PM
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56. In my household we call cinemax, sleezeamax
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:03 PM
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47. I called comcast this afternoon... I'm getting HBO this Sunday!
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angry_chuck Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:11 AM
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48. Please don't blow down our house of cards...
We really love the pile of money in which we sleep at night on which we dream sweet dreams of avarice and secret un-democratic subversion.

Love, DIEBOLD

PS - Bend over and get ready for Nov. 7 America; DIEBOLD can't get enough of your love...or money.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:16 AM
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49. Welcome to DU
:toast:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:22 AM
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50. Ahh the joys of pay TV
HBO is beholden to no one but their viewers. They have, time and time again, done some of the best docs on TV. I have no doubt that this will be explosive..
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softwarevotingtrail Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 11:26 AM
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54. Computerworld e-voting package
Computerworld does a great job on e-voting this week.

E-voting state by state: What you need to know

Angela Gunn


November 01, 2006 (Computerworld) -- Many Americans will head to the polls for November's midterm elections with less certainty than ever about how -- or whether -- their votes will be counted.

Two years after the controversy-plagued 2004 elections, four years after HAVA (the Help America Vote Act) was passed, and six years after the Supreme Court and America romanced the hanging chad, experts are bracing for yet another wave of challenges to regional vote-counting systems.

One-third of us will use voting machines that have never before served in a general election. Legal challenges to paperless DRE (direct-recording electronic) voting technologies are proliferating across the country, and as computer scientists demonstrated earlier this year, hacking challenges to many of these machines can bear fruit even faster than demands for recounts.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleCoverage&articleId=9004591&intsrc=hm_cc_head

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what now toons Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:40 PM
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55. Shine the light on these cockroaches!
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss..............Go HBO, GO. Don't cave in to these monsters among us. The entertainment industry has felt the strong arm of corprate control for years now. HBO has been one of the bright spots on the media landscape, were real film art can be created. And free speach can be expressed. The lockdown mentality of the corporate masters is keeping this voting machine issue off most of the media, keeping many in the dark on this most important topic. I have devoted cartoons to this topic myself, here's one to look at,
http://www.whatnowtoons.com/#063
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:54 PM
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57. And Diebold's machines contain serious material errors that
make elections inaccurate.

Haven't seen them doing anything about that though.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:55 PM
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58. Yippee!!!!!
:D
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