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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:04 PM
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Pat Buchanan: The Bush doctrine IS DEAD
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:10 PM
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1. Bu$h is a loser
a MISERABLE FAILURE. :beer:
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:12 PM
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2. Perhaps, but the Bush legacy...
...will be the devastating damage done to our nation that will
take generations to heal. 
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:44 PM
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6. Should hereafter be referred to as the Bush "lameacy"
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:12 PM
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3. Surprisingly good read -- with one really stupid idea in it
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 06:15 PM by Bucky
"Neoconservatives celebrated this bellicosity as neo-Churchillian. Yet all it accomplished was to fracture the U.S. and foreign coalitions that had united behind Bush. As some of us wrote at the time, to call Iran and Iraq, mortal enemies in the eight-year war of the '80s that took a million lives, an "axis" was absurd.

Bush's speech was a blunder of the first magnitude. First, he had no authority to attack any of those nations, as Congress had not authorized war. Second, he had neither the plans nor forces in place to do so. Yet he had put all three on notice this was what he had in mind."


Buchanan is a motard and an antisemite, but he at least knows his constitution. He's a real conservative, which means this intellectual honesty is only on-call so long as he doesn't hold political office. Were they not in power right now, 90% of conservatives would probably agree with this.

Until he gets to this crap:

"We should engage in direct negotiations with the North, warning them that any export of a nuclear device to a hostile regime risks an attack by the United States, and any nuclear weapon used against Americans, anywhere, traceable to North Korea will bring certain and massive nuclear retaliation.

However, in return for ironclad assurances they have opened up all nuclear programs to inspection and given up further development of nuclear weapons, we should offer the North Koreans diplomatic ties, economic aid and a security pact sealed with a U.S. withdrawal of forces from the Korean peninsula."


Removing our forces from South Korea would be pretty damn stupid, frankly.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:14 PM
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4. A tasty morsel from Pats diatribe:
Is the Bush Doctrine dead?
World Net Daily ^ | 17 Oct 2006 | patrick j. buchanan


Posted on 11/01/2006 2:49:37 PM PST by CWOJackson


Between Sept. 11, 2001, and his State of the Union Address in 2002, George W. Bush had America in the palm of his hand.

But in that speech, Bush blew it. Singling out Iran, Iraq and North Korea as state sponsors of terror seeking weapons of mass destruction, Bush yoked them together in an "axis of evil" and issued this ultimatum: "I will not wait on events while dangers gather. I will not stand by as peril draws closer and closer. The United States of America will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons."

Neoconservatives celebrated this bellicosity as neo-Churchillian. Yet all it accomplished was to fracture the U.S. and foreign coalitions that had united behind Bush. As some of us wrote at the time, to call Iran and Iraq, mortal enemies in the eight-year war of the '80s that took a million lives, an "axis" was absurd.

Bush's speech was a blunder of the first magnitude. First, he had no authority to attack any of those nations, as Congress had not authorized war. Second, he had neither the plans nor forces in place to do so. Yet he had put all three on notice this was what he had in mind.

When the United States invaded Iraq, North Korea and Iran got the message. Both accelerated their nuclear programs
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:16 PM
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5. Maybe Pat Buchanan can explain what the Bush Doctrine actually is
...now that he claims it is dead.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:45 PM
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7. And to think these idiots were going to jump from Iraq to Iran, then Syria
than Saudi Arabia, then.....so goes their deluded crack-pipe dream of establishing a New American Century. We had a unique opportunity to lead the world and rid it of criminal terrorists in pursuit of world peace. Instead, they have single-handedly exposed and exacerbated our weaknesses. They should have been investing in home grown energy to make us independent of ME politics (and priming our domestic economy in the process); instead, they've burned through a trillion+ dollars, tens of thousands of American lives and casualties, 100's of thousands of innocent Iraqi's, created a real problem with ME radicalism, and isolated us as a pariah in the world community....heckufva job Bushie.
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