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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:48 PM
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BREAKING NOW! Sen. Reid blasts Rep. Boehner for blaming Iraq ills on generals!!!!
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:36 PM by originalpckelly
"Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has blasted House Majority Leader John Boehner for asserting that troubles in Iraq are the fault of military leadership, according to a press release by Reid's office.

On today's edition of CNN's The Situation Room, Boehner and host Wolf Blitzer had the following exchange:

Boehner: ...et's not blame what's happening in Iraq on Rumsfeld.

Blitzer: But he's in charge of the military.

Boehner: But the fact is the generals on the ground are in charge and he works closely with them and the president.

"John Boehner ought to be ashamed," says Reid, according to the release. "He's blaming our troops for failures in Iraq. If he wants to cast blame, he can start by looking in the mirror because he and his Congressional Republican colleagues have rubberstamped the Bush Administration's failed policy for nearly four years."

The Boehner brouhaha comes a day after Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) defiantly refused to apologize for what he called "a bungled joke" that seemed to knock the education level of soldiers in Iraq, as reported earlier at RAW STORY. Kerry capitulated today, apologizing to troops if any offense was taken. The Bush administration has attempted to capitalize on Kerry's gaffe, with cutting statements from both President Bush and (soon) Vice President Cheney. Democrats are shrugging off the episode, eager to return the focus back to the war itself.

"Our troops in Iraq have performed bravely," continues Reid in the statement. "It's political leaders like Congressman Boehner and Donald Rumsfeld who have failed.

"I expect President Bush and Congressional Republicans, who demanded John Kerry apologize, hold their own party’s majority leader to a much higher standard. There's no spinning his disparaging comments. He made them. He needs to apologize.""

UPDATE: Story is breaking, Steny Hoyer is also calling for Boehner to apologize!!!!

UPDATE 2: Story is now on Yahoo:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20061101/pl_usnw/reid__boehner_blames_the_military306_xml

UPDATE 3: BOEHNER COMMENT BREAKING ON CNN AFTER COMMERCIAL!!!!

UPDATE 4: HOWARD DEAN NOW ASKING BOEHNER TO APOLOGIZE!!!!

JUST GOT A BREAK IN ON CNN SITUATION ROOM!!!!!!!!!!!

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:50 PM
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1. This BETTER BE AS BIG A FUCKING STORY AS KERRY!!!!!
Fucking "A" better be...:mad:
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:52 PM
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8. Yeah! And let's see McCain defend the honor of our generals!
Fuckin A indeed!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:01 PM
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18. Don't bet on it.
:nuke:
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:05 PM
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27. I'll bet you $50 it won't even be mentioned on MSNBC...
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:06 PM by KAZ
...let alone the enabling networks.

Edit: In the next 24 hours. Hey, I'm cheap.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:37 PM
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68. I lose. Leslie just did a "breaking" on the issue.
Sound effects and all. I'm posting this quickly since we didn't shake pinkies yet on the bet. :)
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 09:49 AM
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98. We'll let you off the hook...
if you take the $50 and donate it to the Democratic Candidate of your choice :toast:
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:05 PM
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104. Done. Except is was to the DSCC.
They called, again, today, and at first I told them that I was tapped out. But then I remembered your post, so my wife is just going to have to understand. Oh well, she might be too busy raising her eyebrows on my Jim Davis contribution to notice this one. :)
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #27
78. You have a lot less faith in Keith than I do
Let's see who's right
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:13 PM
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36. I know you're not serious.
You've been around the block a few times, as have I. I would be surprised if it is even mentioned.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:50 PM
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2. I'm waiting for the MSM to talk about Reid's statement.
I'm not holding my breath.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:16 PM
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41. I certainly am not. Not the corporate owned media, no way!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:50 PM
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3. Go Harry, Go Harry.......
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:50 PM
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4. Here's the press release...
Reid: Boehner Blames the Military

11/1/2006 6:04:00 PM


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To: National Desk

Contact: Jim Manley or Rebecca Kirszner, 202-224-2939, both of the Office of Harry Reid

WASHINGTON, Nov. 1 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid released the following statement on House Majority Leader John Boehner's decision to blame the troops for Republican failures in Iraq.

"John Boehner ought to be ashamed. He's blaming our troops for failures in Iraq. If he wants to cast blame, he can start by looking in the mirror because he and his Congressional Republican colleagues have rubberstamped the Bush Administration's failed policy for nearly four years. Our troops in Iraq have performed bravely. It's political leaders like Congressman Boehner and Donald Rumsfeld, who have failed. I expect President Bush and Congressional Republicans, who demanded John Kerry apologize, hold their own party's majority leader to a much higher standard. There's no spinning his disparaging comments. He made them. He needs to apologize."

---

House Majority Leader John Boehner: Wolf, I understand that, but let's not blame what's happening in Iraq on Rumsfeld.

Wolf Blitzer: But he's in charge of the military.

House Majority Leader John Boehner: But the fact is the generals on the ground are in charge and he works closely with them and the president.

CNN, 11/1/06

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=75542
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:25 PM
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53. Good luck on getting ANY MSM coverage!
that's our problem... that damn Liberal Media!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:30 PM
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59. It's going to be on CNN in a little bit.
:woohoo:

Mr. Shit meet Mr. Fan, Mr. Fan meet Mr. Shit, now boys don't start hitting each other!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:50 PM
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5. Boehner needs to APOLOGIZE TO THE TROOPS!!! NT
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. I know how could he blame them and not that asshole Rumsfeld!
:grr:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:52 PM
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7. Why is Boehner blaming our troops for the failures in Iraq?
I'm outraged.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #7
15. why do the troops hate america? n/t
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:54 PM
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9. this won't be a story for two reasons:
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 06:55 PM by Gabi Hayes
One) dems are too fricking disorganized to mount a one-voiced assault, with talking points ala pugville, so that it's heard over and over and over in the media

two) as in 2004, when Kerry responded strongly on several occasions to the myriad lies told about him, the media will IGNORE this story completely

you won't hear a WORD about this, much less a firestorm

just watch
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. I agree. DEMS will be too frightened to go on TV shows and bring it up.
Same as it ever was.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:12 PM
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33. NOT ONE dem supporter has mentioned this since I've been frantically
flipping from CNN to MSNBC for the last two hours

NOT ONE, and I've seen Shrum, Ford, some talk show guy from Mass, that weasly guy on CNN (gray haired dem strategist), Hillary, Murtha, just off the top of my head

NOT ONE! what the FUCK is WRONG with these miserable amateurs

WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO LEARN how to play the game of politics?

I can't STAND IT!!!!!

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:13 PM
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37. Yet you & I will be attacked as trolls & "DEM bashers" -just watch. n/t
n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:55 PM
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10. Sounds like Kerry and Reid did a little choreography themselves.
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 06:55 PM by blm
Ah well.... LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:56 PM
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11. "Blasts" how? With web text on an obscure website? Is he on a TV show or what?
On what television show that swing-voters might watch is Reid "blasting" anyone?

Or is this just more "for donors eyes only" web text?

WTF is a "release"? Seriously- is that just another word for "web only text?"

What about that new invention called the TV?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. Doesn't Harry Reid send his press releases to the press?
Oh, wait.

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. He needs to send his ASS on those TV interview shows.
That is the only way he can gurantee airtime.

You would think Reid knows, like every DUer knows, that the media ignores press conferences & "releases."

Newsflash: He DOES know this.

I think he is wasting our time trying to fool us into thinking he is fighting back.

I hope to be wrong. The past 6 years indicates that I am not.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:05 PM
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25. Here's the video from CNN:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #25
42. I cant open it. Is it an interview with Reid or a clip from his press conference?
???
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:01 PM
Original message
He's "blasting" Boehner like Kerry is "shutting down" Bush with his press releases
And how he "shut down" the Swiftboat liars in 2004 with nothing put a flurry of press releases!:sarcasm:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:04 PM
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24. And how Clinton stopped himself from impeachment.
.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:07 PM
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29. Honey, why do I think you are NOT a Democrat? just a gut feeling
sorta like your president...
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:19 PM
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44. What are you talking about?
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:20 PM by Ignacio Upton
"your President"? I'm criticizing Kerry, even though I AGREE with what he intended to say, and I AGREE that the media is spinning this against him to paint him in the worst possible light. However, given how little time we have left before Election Day, we have no little choice but to work within the framework of the media's status quo. Kerry and some supporters online think that this story is over once Kerry sends out a press release that looks good on paper but will get NO AIRPLAY beyond one or two sentences at best. I remember reading all sorts of press releases he put out in 2004 after the Swiftboat liars attacked him (he didn't wait a week to respond...he just didn't respond aggressively enough!) and yet some were saying that the Swiftboat bullshit was done now that Kerry did a press release. Same thing goes with statements by Pelosi or Reid, as we think that CNN or MSNBC (of not Faux) will pick up what they are saying. But the truth is that they won't, because they carry the GOP's water, both intentionallity and unintentionally. The only way to put an end to the MSM's lies to through breaking up corporate media monopolies.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #44
69. This next week is a particularly TACTLESS time to attack ANY
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:38 PM by kestrel91316
Dem who is working to effect change.

But I think you know that.

Shame on you.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #29
45. He is right one way or the other. DEM "Releases" are only seen by the netroots.
The only way you can gurantee airtime is to bite the bullet and go on those TV interview & debate shows.

Will Reid do this???? I kind of doubt it- but I hope to be wrong.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:04 PM
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23. On CNN. Link to video:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #23
58. I cant open it. Is it an interview with Reid or a clip from his press conference?
???
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #11
26. Dr Fate, why do you show up only at election time? AND with a negative
message? Just askin? PS...bush has the bully pulpit and EVEN his political fund raisers get on national TeeVee...sorry..if you think the corporate media does not have an agenda!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:12 PM
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35. Show up only at election time? I post daily. Do you disagree or what?
If you are going to attack me, dont start with an untrue statement- I have posted almost every day for 3 years.

Are you saying that Reid should not be on every news show that will have him shouting this from the Roof-tops?

I know the corporate media has an agenda- I also know that Reid can get on those TV shows- I have seen him on before. If he cant, he needs to say so.

If he does go on all the TV shows and hammers this home, then I am wrong and we all win.

I would have no problem being wrong about this. I'd be happy as a lark.

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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:40 PM
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71. Touche..I just have not seen the skull for seems like ages... I am WRONG
You are a prolific poster..and I was WRONG...but when Democrats can do a news conference and no one shows...it is not their fault the news is not broadcast.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. I disagree- they should know by now that no one shows.
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:47 PM by Dr Fate
I have known since '04 that the media often refuses to air our press conferences- and when they do, it is only 20 seconds and they dont repeat it again after that. You would think Reid knows this too.

The only way to gurantee airtime is to get your butt on those TV interview & "debate" shows.

In any event- here is more from CNN:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2544088&mesg_id=2544088

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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #74
81. Problem is ..those shows are by invitation only..and the better the message
the less likely you are to get on those shows. How many times has the Independent...the ONLY INDEPENDENT IN THE HOUSE Bernie Sanders been on talk shows? NEVER..cause his message is TOO attractive to the listeners..and too anti corporate..
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #81
84. Wrong-- Senators & top names can have their PR people get them on.
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 08:15 PM by Dr Fate
Top name Democrats and Senators can invite themselves- they can have their PR people call the programmer and ask to be on.

Sitting around and waiting to be invited does not sound like a good strategy to me- you have your PR people call and ask to be invited. If you are refused access, then you call them out on their censorship until you are given access.

Can you show me where a single top-name Democrat has claimed that he was denied a slot on a TV interview show when he asked to be on?

If top name Democrats like Obama, Reid, Hillary, Kerry, Dean, etc are being denied equal access to these interview shows, I've never heard them say so even once.
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:57 PM
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12. Boehner is up for reelection himself.
Send Kerry to his district to call for his apology!

If they want to keep Iraq on the front page we should oblige them.

Apologize now! Stop scapegoating our troops for the failures of * and Rummy
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:58 PM
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14. ::: VIDEO :::
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:01 PM
Original message
That stupid ass!
Boehner is such a horrible man!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. ...
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:02 PM by Dr Fate
...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. Who is accountable for the Iraq Fiasco?
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:03 PM by Disturbed
Hmmmm.... Who refused three times to fire Rumsfailed?
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PrimeRibGuy Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #14
67. That's it?
Why does the video stop, what else did he say?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #67
83. Here it is:
Joining us now, the number two Republican in the House, the majority leader, John Boehner.

Mr. Leader, thanks very much for coming in.

REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R-OH), MAJORITY LEADER: Wolf, nice to be here.

BLITZER: You said this on -- the other day, and I want to play it for our viewers. Listen to what you said.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BOEHNER: Donald Rumsfeld is the best thing that's happened to the Pentagon in 25 years.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: You said "he's the best thing that's happened to the Pentagon in 25 years." You know, a lot of people strongly disagree with you, including an increasing chorus of fellow Republicans.

BOEHNER: Well, there are a lot of people who want to blame what is happening in Iraq on Donald Rumsfeld, but when you look at the transformation that our military has been through, it's nothing short of remarkable.

And I think there's only one person in America who could have brought about that transformation, and that is Donald Rumsfeld. He's smart, he's been through the Pentagon, knows how it works. And now we have a lighter, more flexible force, a quicker force. It would not have happened without him.

BLITZER: But, you know, General Zinni, who used to be the commander, Anthony Zinni of the Central Command, he says that Rumsfeld threw out 10 years of planning for Iraq, 10 years of strategy with 500,000 troops that would be needed, not to necessarily topple Saddam Hussein, but to win the peace quickly. He just threw that out because he wanted that lighter force and, as a result, the U.S. is paying the price right now.

BOEHNER: Well, Wolf, you have to understand that the generals who have been in charge of the Pentagon have been very resistant to change. It's the younger generals who understand this new force structure that we need to be -- to have the military of the 21st century. And so I think Rumsfeld is the right guy for the job, and I know the president supports him and I'm glad he does.

BLITZER: Let me read to you what a few of your fellow Republicans have said in recent days. "I don't like the guy. I simply don't think he has measured up on running the war on Iraq. Would I vote for a no confidence resolution on Secretary Rumsfeld? Yes." Chris Shays, Republican of Connecticut.

"If I had my way, he wouldn't be secretary of defense now. I would have accepted his resignation after Abu Ghraib. I have lost confidence in him." That's the Republican candidate for the Senate from Washington state, Mike McGavick.

And Congresswoman Jo Ann Davis, Republican of Virginia: "It's probably the only thing in my life I've ever agreed with Hillary Clinton about. He's probably a nice guy, but I don't think he's a great secretary of defense."

BOEHNER: Wolf, I understand that, but let's not blame what's happening in Iraq on Rumsfeld.

BLITZER: But he's in charge of the military.

BOEHNER: But the fact is, the generals on the ground are in charge, and he works closely with them and the president. We've seen this run up in violence as we get closer to the election, as we get closer to Ramadan, same thing we've seen over the last couple of years.

As we enter into Ramadan, we see this big spike in violence and there's no question, in my mind, that the terrorists, very smart people, are also trying to increase the violence as we get closer to the U.S. elections.


That is the end of the anti-generals remark.

BLITZER: Well, I want to move on and get to some other important issues, but a quick question. Were you satisfied in the planning that the Pentagon did, specifically the defense secretary, not necessarily for getting rid of Saddam Hussein's regime, but for the post-war? Because it's been three-and-a-half years and $300 billion, $400 billion, 3,000 almost U.S. deaths ...

BOEHNER: Wolf, there's no question that there have been mistakes along the way. We're fighting an enemy that's unconventional, and we're -- and this has become the central front in our war with al Qaeda. Al Qaeda continues to bring people into Iraq to let off these bombs, to stir up sectarian violence and we're always have to adapt on the ground.

But the fact is, is that Republicans want to win. Democrats want to give up and pull out the troops. I don't think that's what the American people want.

BLITZER: Well, Democrats will disagree with you.

But let me move on to speak about this flap involving Senator Kerry. He has now apologized in this statement that he has just put out. I'll read it to you and see if you accept that as an apology. "I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended." Is this over with now that he's apologized?

BOEHNER: I think he has apologized. It sounds good enough. But when you led into this, Wolf, you said the Republicans were attacking John Kerry for his remarks. Nobody attacked John Kerry. We asked him to apologize to the troops that we believe he offended and I believe that he has.

BLITZER: So this story is over with as far as you're concerned?

BOEHNER: It is.

BLITZER: Let's talk a little bit about the elections, because it's, obviously, according to the polls, potentially a change, a turning point. You could be the majority leader. On the other hand, you could be the minority leader or nothing if the Democrats take control. What is your bottom line assessment right now? How does it look? Do you believe the Republicans will be in the majority after next Tuesday?

BOEHNER: If we're able to mobilize all of our resources to mobilize all of our voters on Election Day, I think we're going to do fine. We probably have got a handful of seats that are very, very difficult, maybe impossible.

And then there are two dozen seats where we're up in the margin of error or down within the margin of error. And so over the next six days, we've got to mobilize our voters. And if we're able to do that, I think we're going to do fine on Election Day.

BLITZER: Here is what Congressman Jeff Flake, Republican of Arizona, a man you know, said. "You can't blame the Democrats, but we certainly gave them a reason to do what they did. We simply didn't have an Ethics Committee process that worked at a time when we needed it. I feel badly that I didn't say anything and neither did other members. It's a pox on all of us."

Remind our viewers -- this whole Mark Foley scandal, you were told that there was a problem there. You went to the speaker. He doesn't seem to remember what you told him. Is that right?

BOEHNER: He's not sure that I talked to him. I feel like I did. But that's not what the American people are wanting to talk about. They want to know who is going to keep their taxes low and keep the economy going. Who is going to secure our borders and who's going to provide the president the tools to take on the terrorists?

The Ethics Committee is working in a bipartisan manner dealing with this issue of Foley. But when you look back over the last two years, as there were a need for the Ethics Committee to operate, it was Nancy Pelosi and liberal Democrats who prevented the committee from operating and takes -- it's even numbers of Democrats and Republicans on the committee. I'm glad they're working together now.

BLITZER: We have time for one final question. I'll read from Bill Kristol. He's a conservative editor of the "Weekly Standard." He recently wrote this or said this. He said, "If they lose the House" -- referring to Republicans -- "it might be time for a change in leadership for obvious reasons. Fresh faces, fresh blood. All three would go -- Hastert, Boehner, Blunt," Roy Blunt, who is the majority whip.

And he's not a liberal, he's a conservative, Bill Kristol. What happens to you, do you think, if the Democrats become the majority?

BOEHNER: Well, I feel good about our chances on Election Day, and I'm going to do everything I can just like I have over the nine months that I've been the majority leader to help keep us in the majority. And if we mobilize our voters, we're going to be fine on Election Day.

But the American people have a choice to make on Election Day, a choice between candidates, a choice between the two parties. And if you want bigger government, higher taxes and a weak border, continue to vote for the Democrats. BLITZER: John Boehner, we're going to leave it right there.

BOEHNER: Wolf, nice to see you.

BLITZER: Thanks very much for coming in. Busy time.

And up next, we'll have more on the John Kerry controversy. Will the continued war of words have an impact on next week's election? We'll check that out in today's "Strategy Session."

But did the president steal the spotlight and give Kerry a bit of a reprieve? I'll ask two political experts, James Carville and Terry Jeffrey.

We're at CNN election headquarters in New York and you're in THE SITUATION ROOM.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
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PrimeRibGuy Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:14 PM
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85. Thank you
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:03 PM
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20. Play this clip on the DNC campaign ads. Boehner's remarks are more
anti-troop than Kerry's.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. I know, blame them not Rumsfeld and the President...
just another bit from the party of (no) personal responsibility.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:05 PM
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28. Boehner is the most abrasive, dismissive SOB on the hill.
Fuck you boehner.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:07 PM
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30. RAW STORY HAS UPDATED THEIR STORY!!!!
OMG!!! OMG!!! OMG!!!

He who laughs last, laughs best.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #30
43. I'm ready to see this story on CNN, MSNBC, etc.
And to see some Dems come out and back up Reid's call for an apology.

That's what I'm waiting for.

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #43
89. Well it was on CNN a little while ago.
So let's see how it works.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:08 PM
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31. Kerry fumbled but they only scored a field goal. Now Boehner threw
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:18 PM by Quixote1818
an interception on the ten yard line.

NOW IT'S FIRST AND GOAL FOR THE DEMS!!!!! GO TEAM!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. Just when you think no one could possibly fuck it up more than Kerry..
along comes Boehner and blames the troops in Iraq instead of Rumsfeld, for war failure!

Boehner just keeps on giving. And this wasn't a botched joke either, Boehner knew full well what he was saying!
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #32
38. Kerry made a mistake telling a joke.
It's the RW noise machine selling the idea he insulted anyone.

Thanks and good day.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #32
40. problem is, and I pray I'm wrong about this, is that this HUGH story
will not be heard outside DU, unless Reid, etal, start INSISTING at every opportunity that this gets discussed

EVERY SINGLE DEM that goes on TV for the next few days should shift the conversation from whatever they're discussing to FORCE the media to deal with this. that's the way the PUGS play it, but the dems NEVER speak with one voice like that

I can't stand it
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #40
46. It is on yahoo now...
and if we put out enough buzz it will stick. It is breaking all over the left, it will soon be brought up elsewhere.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #46
50. Elected Democrats with media access need to help us out this time.
By going on those TV shows and steering the discussions to be about this.

And of course, demanding an apology.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #40
56. Dem's should ask him to Apologize. It's all about the apology game!
You keep pressuring him until he does it!
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. Jerome Bettis fumbled in the AFC Championship last year
and it looked like the Steelers were cooked. Funny, few of us remember that play...seems the Steelers won.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:15 PM
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39. BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! nt
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:20 PM
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47. where is this breaking?
which news sources?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. Now on yahoo...
was breaking on Raw Story earlier, this thing is spreading like a bad infection.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:21 PM
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49. I hope this goes on for 3 so called news cycles.
But I doubt it.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. It will unless elected DEMS are too frightened to talk about it on TV shows.
n/t
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #51
60. .
After what was done to Kerry, the Dems should raise hell about this one. They'd be stupid if they let this chance pass.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:33 PM
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63. If history repeats itself, we can be sure DEMS will give Boehner a free pass.
Oh- there will be plenty of web-only stuff with them fighting- but nothing on TV for everyone to see.

The excuse will be "we are not allowed on those shows" (even though they have been on many times before) or some other crap.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:24 PM
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52. Dobbs has been blaming the generals as opposed to the admin. for months!
Anyone who does that has OBVIOUSLY never served!!!!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:25 PM
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54. A Boner shoots off his mouth?
Are the Boner's comments bad enough to cause an inser - erection among the military? Or was he
just going off half cocked? Was his turgid defense of rummy needed? Will boner keep supporting
Rummy from the rear? And was the Boner blaming the problems on Rummy's staff?


I could keep going but no need to be a dick about things.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #54
57. Boehner is crooked...
:rofl:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #54
62. will the MSM prick up their ears?
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:33 PM by dweller
or have they blown their wad over Kerry's blunder?

dp
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. Well, the dems are doing it well...
Just give the MSM 30 minutes, they'll be ready to do it again!
:rofl:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #62
65. Will DEMS with media access talk about on TV interview shows?
Are we saying we should just sit around and wait for Republican media people to bring it up as a topic?
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:28 PM
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55. .
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:28 PM by Hav
Ok, just saw Update 3.
It's pretty much prime time now, right? The best time it could get aired from the MSM. Let's hope that more stations follow.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:31 PM
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61. Well, CNN is the one where this story came from...
So we'll have to see. But if they talk about it, it might keep going.

We still have to worry for a little while.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:34 PM
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66. Funny... Where are all the Kerry Bashers Now...
pay attention
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:38 PM
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70. I hope to eat my hat- more from CNN:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #70
73. Would you like a beverage
to wash it down? Red or white?



Shocking, truly shocking.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #73
77. LOL. I'm a simple man w/ simple tastes. Make it a PBR. On Ice. n/t
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 07:46 PM by Dr Fate
n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #73
100. I think I was right afterall. DEMS are going to give them a free pass as usual.
Nothing but web only attacks.

For donors eyes only.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:42 PM
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72. What a dick that Boehnhead is!!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #72
75. I think he's stuck up...
as to what I don't know.
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grmamo Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:45 PM
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76. I called and thank Reid, they seemed happy to hear from me n/t
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:52 PM
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79. Wes Clark has always said that the Bush crowd would blame their failures on the military.
I bet the Democrats were ready for this one. Ha!

I bet the Dems were lying in wait because they knew this was going to happen.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. Yes, right after Boehner said Rummy was the best thing to happen...
to the Pentagon in 25 years.
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:53 PM
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80. wow! nm
nm
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:15 PM
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86. Good POint, Harry! Blame the
Fucking Rubber Stampers! Don't go blamin' the Troops! Blame rummy, bush, condi, the dick, who else?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:18 PM
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87. Gee, the Republicans are not going to like this hoof-in-mouth game, are they?
They'll wish they had never started it.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #87
88. Yeah, I know...
especially when it wasn't a hoof in the mouth. Boehner means what he is saying.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #88
90. Exactly- not a gaffe- but an honest-to-goodness insult. n/t
n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:36 PM
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91. kick
kick
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:37 PM
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92. Email the Yahoo News story!
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:41 PM
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93. Who Got Us Stuck in Iraq? Tony Snow Insinuates Soldiers

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/31/162145/62

"Kerry joked about a person whom he didn't mention by name, who had gotten us stuck in Iraq, and the entire corporate-owned media concluded he was talking about the soldiers. This article proves how anyone who comes to this conclusion (Snow, McCain, and Boehner) owes the soldiers an apology. ... "

It's the repukes who are blaming the soldiers, and they are projecting onto Kerry.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #93
99. and it's damned time DU stopped focusing on Kerry and returned fire
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:02 PM
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94. was it on CNN yet?
also, are all these Dems really asking for an apology?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:01 AM
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95. Good for Reid.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:03 AM
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96. Disingenuous media pussies don't care about this.
Big surprise, eh?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 08:29 AM
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97. So Reid gives Democrats and DU'ers an opportunity to blast this Kerry crap
out of the water and yet DU'ers are still harping on that stupid story. HOw about blasting this to the mediawhores and forcing them to acknowledge it?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #97
101. Are Democrats with media access going to bring it up on TV today?
I doubt it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 11:54 AM
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102. where is the Generals' Baghdad Banner that reads Boehner blame us not Rummy
Oh, wait, the Troops are supposed to be politically neutral....riiiiiight.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:19 PM
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103. I know...
out of all the people to blame, they blame the ones whom by law cannot respond.
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