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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:20 PM
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Boehner Kicks It Up A Notch
http://www.hoffmania.com/blog/2006/11/now_boehner_on_.html

Ladies and gentlemen - KARMA.

This is being reported in ALL the Military Times outlets (Army Times, Navy Times, etc.). You know. Something the troops see every day.

Bet the morale is just bubbling over among 'em now, eh? When they read that the Republican House Majority Leader, who helped start the war, is blaming their commanders on the ground and not Rumsfeld for how it's going, they're going to just hate the Democrats, right? Uh-huh.

This, by the way, is from the same tough guy who vowed to "beat John Kerry to Death" if HE didn't apologize.

Oh, baby. Business has picked up big time.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:24 PM
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1. How can we get right wing tv to cover it with even 1/4 of the hours
spent on Kerry?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:25 PM
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3. By keeping it in the blogs
They read these blogs, and eventually they pick up stories that are kicked around the blogs for several days.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:57 PM
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16. I saw it briefly on CNN today. (NT)
NT
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:25 PM
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2. here is a link to the "beat John Kerry to death" video
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:02 PM
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10. I am speechless -- rather ironic in light of Olberman's reference to caning of
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 03:06 PM by emulatorloo
Senator Sumner

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/110206J.shtml

--
On the 22nd of May, 1856, as the deteriorating American political system veered toward the edge of the cliff, U.S. Rep. Preston Brooks of South Carolina shuffled into the Senate of this nation, his leg stiff from an old dueling injury, supported by a cane. And he looked for the familiar figure of the prominent senator from Massachusetts, Charles Sumner.

Brooks found Sumner at his desk, mailing out copies of a speech he had delivered three days earlier - a speech against slavery.

The congressman matter-of-factly raised his walking stick in midair and smashed its metal point across the senator's head.

Congressman Brooks hit his victim repeatedly. Sen. Sumner somehow got to his feet and tried to flee. Brooks chased him and delivered untold blows to Sumner's head. Even though Sumner lay unconscious and bleeding on the Senate floor, Brooks finally stopped beating him only because his cane finally broke.

Others will cite John Brown's attack on the arsenal at Harper's Ferry as the exact point after which the Civil War became inevitable.

In point of fact, it might have been the moment, not when Brooks broke his cane over the prostrate body of Sen. Sumner - but when voters in Brooks' district started sending him new canes.

Tonight, we almost wonder to whom President Bush will send the next new cane.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:28 PM
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4. Our military doesn't like GOP chickenhawks
and they have every right to express their discontent, they're the ones paying the price. The situation is deteriorating rapidly in Iraq, yet the Iraqi president is calling for the US troops to stay in place for 3 more years. :wtf:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:29 PM
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5.  I KNEW I saw the 'beat Kerry to death' quote on the
CNN crawl yesterday; it was unattributed, and as I read it, I was YELLING at my DH..."Jesus Christ, look what they're saying about Kerry now"...
We couldn't believe it: beat him to DEATH???
We only saw it once, and since no one else whom we asked seemed to know anything about it, we chalked it up to someone at CNN with an odd sense of humor. It is simply STUNNING that it was a member of the U.S. Congress; WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE???
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:45 PM
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20. George Allen wants to "knock their soft teeth down their whining throats."
He was referring to Dems in the Virginia Legislature, if I'm not mistaken. Somone correct me if I'm wrong. The video is on DU now.

Playground bullies are the face of the GOP. Compassionate conservatism is their toilet paper.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:14 PM
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21. Kick n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:53 PM
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6. kick
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:53 PM
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7. This was no mis-statement, either. It's clear as rain.
Rumsfeld micromanaged this invasion and disregarded or fired any generals who opposed him on the strategy/tactics. He alone had the final decisions to invade with a force too small to maintain civil order. Was that by design or incompetence? Doesn't matter, the results are the same. Bush and Rummy are great at hiding behind the "we let our generals decide what the right moves in Iraq are", but, of course, that's a lie. They have always called the shots. Any generals who disagreed were dumped or transferred out of command. Those that would agree to the Rummy-Bush plan were booted up the chain. That, in itself, is a very scary thought...generals who are political animals whose 1st alleigence is to the administration, not the country.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:02 PM
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9. Which is why Boehner won't apologize
See he actually meant what he said. The are supposed to be leaders but instead they are not held responsible, their generals are, and I suppose Generals are expected to blame their subordinates down the line and so on until privates, and then civilians are blamed for Iraq.

Is this what these guys did to become wealthy?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:03 PM
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17. So why isn't MSM giving this as much airplay
as they gave to the lies about Kerry
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:00 PM
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8. Isn't it a crime to threaten a high government official?
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:05 PM
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11. Sounds like a threat to me...
It also sounds like an act of desperation from a Party that MUST become extinct before society can make any significant advances.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:39 PM
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12. Now that's a much more succinct way of putting it than I did.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:42 PM
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13. We must send this to the generals who asked Rummy to resign.
It's one thing for MSM to ignore Reid and Dean's request for an apology, quite another for them to ignore Generals like Wes Clark or Anthony Zinni if they condemned Boehner. I've already e-mailed this story to them, I encourage others to do likewise.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:48 PM
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14. when will the truth about this filthy Re-pigs sink in with working Americans??
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 03:55 PM
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15. rock and a hard place for Boehner
he can't deny he said it - it was on TV and tapes and distributed through the "tubes" of the "internets" and can be found by using "THE Google"

If he apologizes for blaming the Generals - then the hot potato gets passed to Rummy, who according to bush is doing a "fantastic job" - so the blame also passes to bush

If he tries to find some place between without blaming anyone - it will look just as it is - trying to find wiggle room

and the longer he dangles in the wind between the rock and hard place - the less sincere and truthful any apology or explaination will appear..

coming up on CNN in a few minutes - Wolf Blitzer "Whose to Blame? Rummy or the Generals?"
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:04 PM
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18. knr
:evilgrin:
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:04 PM
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19. "...the generals...have been very resistant to change”
Yahright. Or maybe the changes Rummy asked them to make were even worse than the course they've been forced to stay.

K&R for MSM pickup...
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:16 PM
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22. Kick n/t
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