If it turned out that Chimpy has brain cancer affecting his judgment...

[survivor999]

Would you forgive him?

[NYCGirl]

1. Let's put it this way — I still don't like Reagan even though we've discovered

he was completely out of it.

[survivor999]

3. Hmmmm, good point there.

[MrCoffee]

5. Great answer

[stopbush]

2. Other: I'd enjoy watching him reverse course on stem cell research.

[AIJ Alom]

4. Yes. I'd forgive him because he had Cheney...I mean cancer.

But if it's just his ego and natural personality and no disease, then he will still be remembered as the worst president ever.

[AndyA]

6. Yes, if Bush had something wrong with him that he couldn't help, I would

forgive him. But if he caused it due to his drinking, drugs, etc., I would not.

I will not forgive those who have allowed him unhindered to do the things he's done. They have an obligation to ensure checks and balances, and they have not done their jobs.

[survivor999]

7. Those who were supposed to provide balance cannot be forgiven

Unless they all have brain cancer.

[bluerum]

8. Thought that was a given. Cancer or some pathology induced stupidity. nt

[enid602]

9. cell

Just put him in a dank cell without any booze or drugs; he'll forget about the brain cancer real quick.

[tularetom]

10. No effing way would I ever forgive this asshole

for what he has done to the country I love. I harbor no vengeful thoughts toward him but I do believe in karma. God will probably forgive him - it ain't my job.

[deadmessengers]

11. Yes.

I'm a forgiving person, and brain cancer is certainly a reasonable explanation for the titanically bad judgement we've seen from him over the last 6 years. However, then, the onus falls on those in his cabinet, who had the Constitutional responsibility to recognize that he wasn't competent to do the job of President and vote to remove him under the 25th Amendment.

[ChiciB1]

12. He HAS Good Health Insurance!! If That Were The Case... THOSE

in charge of him should have gotten him TREATMENT!! No, can't forgive or over look it!!

[enid602]

13. I'm confused . . .

Doesn't a brain have to have some live cells in order to get brain cancer?

[sweetpotato]

14. Doesn't he have periodic checkups?

The doctors doing his check-ups and pronouncing him fit for duty and whatnot should be able to diagnose this.

If it turns out he has some disease causing his actions, then he should have been removed as unfit.

[Demeter]

15. If He Had Brain Cancer, He'd Be Dead Years Ago

He has a cancer of the soul.

[Marr]

16. I don't expect anything better from Bush, so it's difficult for me

to really think about "forgiveness" in his case. He's an egocentric, idiot son of priviledge. Of *course* he's going to be corrupted by power. He's not even a man in my book- he's never been tested, and he's always been bailed out. He's just a tall, wrinkled 3rd grader.

The people I really blame are the ideologues who steer him, and all the corporate whores who've enabled him, from cowardly politicians (Democrats and Republicans), to business leaders, to media owners, and the people who voted for him.

[LeftishBrit]

17. I would, if it turned out that he'd had it from the beginning of his evil actions

Though these have been going on so long, that if it was cancer or some other serious disease, I would have expected him to be dead long ago.

[Brigid]

18. Forgive him? Why?

He has all his Kool-Aid drinkers doing all his dirty work for him anyway. He has Limbaugh making comments about Michael J. Fox, and even has Laura Bush, whom I once respected, doing the same. Bush himself isn't the only reason to loathe the present regime.

[Midlodemocrat]

19. No. Because if that were the case, he should have stepped aside.

And, even if he does have brain cancer, the morans will name a fucking airport after him anyway.

[datadiva]

20. Yes, but only after the Lobotomy! eom

[Jed Dilligan]

21. Hell no

I've never once seen someone get cancer and become an asshole. They are the same people, with cancer.

I would drink a toast to the cancer eating his brain and wonder why it wasn't starving to death.

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. Did the cancer exist when he deserted from the TANG?

Didn't think so.

Fuck him.

[Xithras]

23. Sure.

If it were brain cancer, that would make his activities the effects of a mental disorder. Anyone with any experience with mental disorders knows that people suffering from these disorders aren't responsible for their actions.

Like others have said though, I certainly wouldn't forgive those who enabled him. Bush alone is just a person, and his power comes from the vast army of supporters and enablers around him.

[Joe Bacon]

24. He has a brain?

Could have fooled me. I thought President Asshole's real father was Madame... :evilgrin:

[survivor999]

25. Good Q

I've never seen his MRIs. So, I have no positive evidence.

[porphyrian]

26. Is it OK for a psychotic to stab a baby?

Some actions are unacceptable, regardless of the reasons.

[survivor999]

27. if the baby is the antichrist it's ok :)

[DerBeppo]

31. no, but if one drowns 5 of them...

you'll get a whole bunch defending her.

[porphyrian]

32. Are you suggesting she shouldn't be defended?

Mental illness is real, despite the attempts of Scientologists to disbelieve it. That lady (if you're talking about the one I'm thinking of) was mentally ill. She was also an American citizen, thus entitled to a fair trial in a court of law. That doesn't make her actions acceptable, it validates our Constitution as one of the best governmental documents of the modern age.

As for whether or not she deserves to die, I hold to my previously-stated position that killing is a bad way to say that killing is wrong. It won't undo the damage done by her actions, nor will it bring the kids back to life. Refraining from killing her does not make her actions acceptable, nor is it somehow doing her a favor.

[DerBeppo]

33. i'm arguing for consistency. nt.

[porphyrian]

35. That is one of the failings of our judicial system as is.

Punishment is not dealt consistently or fairly. Minorities and the poor are often given the harshest punishment while wealthy Caucasians, such as JEB! bush's daughter, get a little rehab where they can sneak crack rock in and barely get their wrist slapped.

That said, I'm not in favor of mandatory sentencing either. Lawmakers have no right to bypass the judicial branch by making laws with built-in inflexible punishments. It is the job of judges to decide what is fitting in a given case, not Congress. Not to mention the fact that most mandatory minimum sentences are nothing more than an election-year ploy to seem "tough on crime" to the electorate rather than a way of making us more secure. And, like with the death penalty, there is no evidence that mandatory sentences serve as a deterrent. There is far more evidence that it is a back door attempt to keep prison populations inflated to justify large budgets to political cronies in the prison industrial complex.

[frylock]

28. repubs need to start doing CAT scans on their presidential candidates..

put me down for a NO.

[gollygee]

29. I would not blame him if he were ill

but I'd wonder about all the people who went along with him.

I'd feel very bad if I heard he had a cancerous brain tumor. I wouldn't wish for that to happen to anyone. :(

[theHandpuppet]

30. I'd suck a flaming bucket of maggots through a shit straw...

... before I'd forgive this lying, petulant, vindictive and murderous waste of protoplasm.

Does that answer your question?

[williesgirl]

34. Only cancer he'll get is liver cancer from all his drinking.