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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:07 AM
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Article says Alito may dismantle environmental protections!!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 02:11 AM by Wordie
A very important analysis of the possible effect of Judge Alito's confirmation on the environment:


More Important Than Roe

Bush’s appointment of John Roberts and, now, of Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court has predictably resurrected our perennial national debate over abortion and Roe v. Wade. While undeniably important, this emotionally fraught subject has distracted attention from a matter of greater consequence, albeit one unlikely to capture the public imagination: namely, a little matter called the Commerce Clause.

If your mind immediately begins to founder in boredom with that alliteration, consider that this small clause underlies more federal regulation and more powerfully affects everyday life than does any other provision in the U.S. Constitution. You need not be terribly interested in business or commerce to care about laws dependent on this clause: if you care about laws against racial discrimination, laws prohibiting exploitation of child labor, laws providing for a minimum wage, or laws limiting private access to machine guns, you should be concerned about the Commerce Clause. If you give a damn about environmental protection, you should be more than concerned.


The article then goes on to say that there is a danger that we will lose such oversight, as these issues have been overshadowed by others, such as abortion, gay rights and separation of church and state. But the conservatives have been slowly dismantling the protections of the commerce clause, and that the decisions rendered by the new justices will be crucial in determining whether such a trend continues.

The predictable conservative retort is, “If the constitutional text, strictly interpreted, does not suit you, pass a constitutional amendment!” All well and good unless you acknowledge the real world power of vested economic interests which are more than equipped to prevent the overwhelming legislative will needed to amend the Constitution. In the real world, if conservative jurists succeed in paring back the Commerce Clause, it may be a generation or more (if ever) before the needed power to protect the environment is brought back into existence. In that time, species and habitats will have been lost forever, aquifers and waterways will have been drained and polluted beyond repair, and the only world we have will have been unalterably impoverished. These are wounds that no amount of time will heal.

As an appellate judge, Alito dissented from a ruling upholding federal regulation of machine guns as a legitimate exercise of the commerce power. His dissent went beyond the apparent requirements of existing Supreme Court precedent, and pushed for a narrow view of the Commerce Clause that could render rational environmental protection unconstitutional (to say nothing of rational regulation of automatic weapons). Further, in his testimony before the Senate, Alito has described his judicial philosophy in classic, originalist terms—terms that would freeze the Commerce Clause in an eighteenth century milieu utterly inappropriate to governing in the modern world.

It is a shame that Supreme Court confirmation hearings have been largely reduced to perfunctory affairs, where predictable questions elicit predictable evasions and little genuine discussion. Ideas matter, judicial philosophies matter, and we owe it too ourselves and to future generations to take some care about those we place on the Court. If, as now appears likely, Judge Alito is confirmed, the consequences may be far more dire and long lasting than even an outright reversal of Roe v. Wade. At stake is the real world—a world that will long outlast every person now living, every outrageous abuse of civil rights in the current generation, every contemporary injustice. In the long march of time, what we do with that real world, and the state we leave it in, will dwarf all other issues in moral significance. We should not forfeit the constitutional right to sane environmental regulation because of some quaint attachment to eighteenth century understandings, and we should not confirm any Supreme Court appointee who might give us that result.


The article also makes this point:
...the Supreme Court itself recently invalidated certain protections of critical wetland habitats under the Clean Water Act on a statutory basis, while hinting strongly that it had construed the statute narrowly to avoid a potential constitutional question—namely, whether such legislation, construed broadly enough to permit protection of these wetlands, would exceed the scope of Congressional authority under the Commerce Clause.

http://www.etymos.com/ (It's very much worth reading the entire article. Scroll down a bit. It's the January 24th entry.)

This may be a convincing argument for Senators in those states where environmental concerns run high.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:18 AM
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1. Tar & feathers may be the only things that count
Maybe Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito will find out about old time justice.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:27 AM
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2. The good of the bottom line over the good of everything else
this IS fascism!
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 03:12 AM
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3. It might be an argument that would convince some Senators. eom
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 04:19 AM
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4. Word!
There is a whole list of protections that don't take any precedence to the Constitutional crisis we are in right now.

If we don't solve, to the satisfaction of We The People, the core problems we face at this juncture, then the environment, animal rights, and the sundry list of issues really won't matter at all, any more, forever.

We must get to the salient issue(s) and assure our situation via the protection of our rights, freedoms, and privacy right now. In that sense, it would be best for everyone to hear a virtual Paul Revere call to come together, drop your other issues for the time being, and put your noses to the grindstone that glares like a beacon in your midst.

I can't see doing much about any of the myriad of issues without freedom. If we cannot prevent a tyrant from wresting control of our Republic/Constitutional Democracy, and we cannot have certain and evident representation, then nothing else matters to me right now. Everything falls down in the face of this dire matter.

We won't be able to save animals, stop corruption, fight the Borg, or anything, if we don't have our basic, core, fundamental, concrete rights.

One if by land. Two if by sea. Three if by corporations and media.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:24 PM
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18. I completely agree the primary issue is constitutional, BUT
this argument may help convince some Senators to support the filibuster. It might be the thing to tip them far enough into the anti-Alito column that they would vote against cloture. That's my hope, at any rate.

I posted this so DUers might have an additional argument, if they thought it might help.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 04:26 AM
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5. a few of the committee members (dems)-brought up some of this.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:15 AM
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6. League of Conservation Voters .:... Urgent.Action Alert:

President Bush's nomination of Judge Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court gravely threatens the future of the federal laws that protect our clean air, clean water, and public safety.

That's why -- for the first time in our history -- LCV is opposing a Supreme Court nominee. As the full Senate debates the nomination, I urge you to contact your Senators immediately and tell them to vote against Judge Alito's lifetime appointment.

Judge Alito's record is clear. He is an activist judge who has opposed the rights of citizens to sue for the enforcement of laws that protect our environment and public safety and he has voted to undermine the very basis of these laws.

A Supreme Court appointment lasts a lifetime, but the impact the Court has can last generations. Write your Senators today – urge them to oppose the appointment of Judge Alito.

This summer, the Supreme Court will decide major environmental cases. At stake are the laws that protect our clean air, clean water, and public health. If confirmed, Judge Alito could be the swing vote that threatens our environmental health and safety. His extreme activist record has shown that Judge Alito aligns with polluters and against federal environmental protections.

We cannot afford to have Judge Alito appointed to the Supreme Court. Write your Senators today.


Sincerely,


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:23 AM
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7. The more I read, the more frightened I am of Alito. K&N! nt
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:43 AM
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8. OMG! I can't believe the ongoing devastation that can be completed if
only * gets to pack the courts.

:grr:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:53 AM
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9. the ones monkeyboy hasn't already dismantled (n/t)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:58 AM
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10. One of the purposes of putting someone like him
on the court is to do away with regulations designed to protect the public. The other purpose in that same vein is to give the executive the power to wreck regulatory agencies without any congressional or judicial oversight.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 08:35 AM
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11. Alito's refusal to put ANY limit on execute power trumps
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 08:36 AM by pat_k
Judge Alito told us everything we needed to know about him when he offered his standard response -- that he couldn't offer an opinion; that he'd figure it out if it came to the Supreme Court -- to the hypothetical case Sen. Biden posed. (If We the People, through our representatives in the Senate and House, passed a resolution prohibiting the President from ordering any sort of attack on Iran, could the President ignore our will and order Bombs to be dropped on Iran?)

Citizens do not need a law degree (or even a high school degree) to know that it's lunacy to think the constitution gives (or even might give) the President the power to flagrantly violate the collective will of the people codified in the acts and resolutions passed by our Congress.

Judge Alito's refusal to acknowledge ANY limits on executive power endangers the most fundamental tenets of our constitutional democracy. As Geoffrey R. Stone, a former Dean of the University of Chicago Law School pointed out:

". . . Whatever else Judge Alito may or may not have made clear about his views on such issues as abortion, federalism, and religious freedom, he has certainly made clear that he has no interest in restraining the acts of this commander-in-chief. That, in my judgment, poses a serious threat to the nation, and is a more than adequate reason for the Senate -- Republicans and Democrats alike -- to deny his confirmation to the Supreme Court of the United States."
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:28 PM
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19. I'm thinking of states like CA, where environmental issues are important.
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 12:30 PM by Wordie
This might help convince those Senators. I am in no way saying that this issue is the primary one.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:09 AM
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20. When "Unitary Authoritarian Executive" becomes the rule of the land. . .
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 12:22 AM by pat_k
. . .all our laws are subject to change by fiat.

I agree that making the case that Alito is a threat to our environmental protection laws could effectively motivate many citizens and leaders to oppose him. But, no matter how effective it might be, I think it is ultimately counter-productive to do so.

Fascists have seized power. Instead of mobilizing to expose the fascists, drive them out of power, and punish them for their crimes, a vast majority of our leaders are in denial -- stubbornly carrying on, "politics as usual."

It's difficult to confront denial, particularly when you are dealing with officials in high office (or someone who represents them). Although it can be tempting to tip toe around the truth with "Politics as usual" arguments, we need to confront their denial, not join them in it.

Labeling Alito "too conservative," "a threat to Roe" or "a threat to environmental protections," skirts the truth about
  1. The "doctrines" he subscribes to (i.e., the fascist fantasies he invokes to convince himself -- and us -- that the Bush Syndicate crimes are not crimes) or
  2. His role in the fascist invasion of our government (i.e., putting Alito on the Supreme Court is a GIANT leap forward in their march to render the Constitution we established for the United States of America permanently null and void, and make their vision of a Stalinist Unitary Authoritarian Executive a reality.

Alito is a co-conspirator in their treasonous effort to nullify our constitution. When we reject him, we reject the lunacy of a Stalinist unitary authoritarian executive in America.

I don't mean to minimize the importance of protecting the environment. If we render the planet uninhabitable, it won't much matter whether America was a dictatorship or a constitutional democracy. But, I think our first job is to restore legitimate authority. Americans can only have a role in creating rational global and domestic environmental policy if we have a functioning constitutional democracy capable of enacting and enforcing our collective will.

Facing Facts
<my shot at a summary of the reality Americans need to confront>


The Bush racketeers gleefully conspire to thwart the will of the American people to grab and consolidate the power they believe they have a right to. They view the rest of humanity as pawns to be manipulated to their own ends. They twist reality to justify the atrocities they commit in our name. For them, "We the People" means "We the 'Right' People; We the Powerful and Superior." As superior beings, great wealth is their natural reward. Since no law defined by others applies to them, any avenue that yields their rightful rewards is open for their exploitation.

Their crowning achievement (pun intended) was the theft of the American Presidency in 2001.

On January 6th, 2001, Congress counted the illegal electoral votes from Florida, and thus failed in its duty to preserve the government. Since that date, our Constitution has been in breach.

As long as we permit them to remain in power, our laws and regulations aren't worth the paper they are printed on. The fascist Bush syndicate refuses to enforce and flagrantly violates those laws. We must face facts and stop supporting the pretense of their legitimacy by offering plans to them, or by trying to influence their agenda.

Our only option is to fight them at every turn, and ultimately force Bush, Cheney, and their co-conspirators out of power, and punish them for their crimes.





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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 08:37 AM
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12. LET HIM.
They're making an Earth in which they will not be able to live in either.

Have solace in that, if he ends up coming in and dismantling it all.

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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 08:42 AM
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13. But that's what they WANT
That "rapture" thing, and all
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:13 PM
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17. So we should all go down just because we want them to suffer?
should we let them strip us of our civil liberties because they'll lose some of theirs too? Should we encourage the total destruction of the US economy because the repugs will also feel the pinch?

Sorry Hypnotoad, but I'll continue to fight for the planet and all the living things that call it home.I WILL NOT be an enabler to those with "end time" fantasies.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 08:48 AM
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14. Yet another reason we need to stay on top of this!!!
Don't give up folks, if we don't at least try we wil definitely fail!

K & R!
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 10:03 AM
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15. Might be too late.
Roberts is cut from the same cloth as Alito. Roberts has indicated that he has a hard on for the Endangered Species Act. Where was the concern then?

Not that we should throw in the towel, a vote is a vote. But where was the concern of our environmental defenders when they gave Roberts a pass?

The shit they're going to do, I might go crazy.

If the Democratic Party is trying to utterly demoralize us folks who give a shit about the environment they're going about it the right way.
:mad: :puke:
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:03 PM
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16. (K&R)Took me awhile to read this thread
because my response to the subject line was "duhhh." You might want to start another thread with the more extreme subject line this article deserves.
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