Newsweek Poll: 'It's Official, No One Gives a Shit About Kerry', Dems INCREASE lead, 54%-38%

[Grebrook]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15557264/site/newsweek/

So much for "HURR KERRY JUST SAVED THE GOP" bullshit flying around on Fox, talk radio and the Free Republic. Newt Gingrich actually had the nerve to go on air and claim, "That gaffe cost the Dems at least 4 house seats and 1 senate seat".

So, using the rule of "Gingrich -35", which was established after Gingrich disastrously predicted a "30 seat pick up" in 1998, and actually lost 5 seats, I think it's safe to assume that we will pick up 31 seats in the House, and an extra seventh seat in the Senate.

Generic Ballot:
Dems: 54%
Reps: 38%

If they can't break 40% in the generic ballot by election day, IT WILL be a tidal wave.

[Beetwasher]

1. Dems Are Starting To PULL AWAY IN THE HOME STRETCH!!!

The races are not tightening as as so many pundits have suggested, instead, as I knew they would, Dems are starting to pull away with it!

[Cha]

23. And that better show

up on the ballots and the voting machines.

[hedgehog]

24. I think we've started to pull away in the home stretch every

election since 1968, but we've always started to pull away too late. I think we finally got our mojo working properly!

[acmavm]

2. Thanks for posting this. Maybe the hysterical factor will go down

now.

[bluestateguy]

3. One silver lining to the Kerry business

is that it just may kill any chance that he might have had at winning the nomination in 2008.

[sandnsea]

10. Who is the perfect candidate?

That hasn't said anything stupid to date? Just curious.

[MH1]

11. Yep, we could be blessed with Hillary?

Or some other DLCer?

Anyway, you're most likely wrong. Most Dems I've spoken with are disgusted with the way some Dem "leaders" jumped to do the RW bidding. Anyone with half a brain knows this was just a right wing smear aided and abetted by certain Dems out of a craven desire to help their own 2008 chances. THAT will backfire, imo.

[wisteria]

31. Oh, not that witch. I will never work for, give money to or vote for Clinton.

NO F*CKING WAY-EVER!!!!!!

[blm]

12. Why? Because if there is no Dem who dominates him during the series of debates

then what will that say about THEM? Name the Dem who will be tougher and more consistent and never drop a focking PRONOUN on the stump, fer chrissakes.

Kerry won the primary debates overall and he demolished Bush in the ppresidential debates. He won the election, and the WEAKASS DNC never secured the election process to get his votes counted.

I think people revise history because they can't CONFRONT it.

[Grebrook]

18. I think Kerry would be a bad idea because people don't like candidates running for a second chance

It just kind of annoys them. Kerry deserved to be prez, but I think we should just throw someone else in there this time around. I personally don't know who yet, though. Haven't seen anyone that I think can really rally people, except for Gore.

[blm]

19. Gore or Kerry WOULD be comeback stories, too, and Americans support

comebacks at the highest levels for a quality athlete or a quality lawmaker. Both have unique stories. And it's not like Kerry even had a chance for most Americans to even learn his, thanks to media restrictions and the editting rooms of most newsrooms.

[autorank]

45. Yep, we love to see them hit the canvas, then drag themselves up

to endure an even greater contest. I totally agree.

[politicasista]

54. exactly n/t

[Cha]

25. Sorry, but too bad about

"people don't like candidates running for a second chance"..they'll get over if the right candidate comes along who ran against bush and was run down the first time and picked himself up and came back stronger.

I love those kind of stories.

[saracat]

43. They don't ? What about Reagan?

[Wednesdays]

47. Nixon fits that description, too...

Although we're rather sorry that happened.

[emulatorloo]

27. The "silver lining" is that Kerry kicked ass on the Repug Slime Machine

and all dems outta be proud of that

http://www.johnkerry.com/news/releases/release.html?id=34

The White House's attempt to distort my true statement is a remarkable testament to their abject failure in making America safe. It's a stunning statement about their willingness to reduce anything in America to raw politics. It's their willingness to distort, their willingness to mislead Americans, their willingness to exploit the troops, as they have so many times at backdrops, at so many speeches at which they have not told the American people the truth.

<snip>

This is a textbook Republican campaign strategy: Try to change the topic; try to make someone else the issue; try to make something else said the issue, not the policy, not their responsibility.

<snip>

No way. It disgusts me that a bunch of these Republican hacks who've never worn the uniform of our country are willing to lie about those who did.

It's over.

This administration has given us a Katrina foreign policy: mistake upon mistake upon mistake; unwilling to give our troops the armor that they need; unwilling to have enough troops in place; unwilling to give them the Humvees that they deserve to protect them; unwilling to have a coalition that is adequate to be able to defend our interests.

Our own intelligence agency has told us they're creating more terrorists, not less. They're making us less safe, not more.

I think Americans are sick and tired of this game. These Republicans are afraid to stand up and debate a real veteran on this topic. And they're afraid to debate -- you know, they want to debate straw men because they're afraid to debate real men.

Well, we're going to have a real debate in this country about this policy. The bottom line is: These Republicans want to distort this policy. And, this time, it won't work because we are going to stay in their face with the truth.

And no Democrat is going to be bullied by these people, by these kinds of attacks that have no place in American politics. It's time to set our policy correct.

--

[melody]

41. Baby George's Kerry rant the other night

... reminded me of Poppy's whistle stop "those bozo's" speech. Both trying to sound like homespun tough guys, but instead sounding like petulant bullies.

[wisteria]

30. Nope, this proves he was right. He forced the party to take a stand

on Iraq and he told they way back in April and May when Clinton and other insiders wanted to push domestic issues that this election was going to be about Iraq. Another Kerry was right moment. Woo hoo Kerry 08!!

[JanusAscending]

39. Come on, give him a break!!

I suppose you've never made a MISTAKE in your life! You offend me with your words, on purpose!! You should tread very softly about Sen Kerry on DU ! Some of us really LOVE AND CARE about him, and still hope he gets to be our President in ,08, 'cause he really won in 04!!

[sce56]

46. I will never support a Skull & Boner

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0122-10.htm
Skull & Bones: The Secret Society That Unites John Kerry and President Bush

Listen | Watch

A little-known fact unites Democratic frontrunner John Kerry and President Bush: they are both members of Yale's secret society Skull and Bones. We speak with the author of "Secrets of the Tomb: Skull and Bones, the Ivy League, and the Hidden Paths of Power" that reveals details about the secret society and its members.

The New Hampshire primary is just a few days away and Howard Dean's status as the frontrunner has almost totally dissipated. The latest Boston Herald poll now shows that John Kerry holds a 10 point lead - a major surge for the Massachusetts Senator. Still reeling from his victory in Iowa, Kerry is starting to act like the frontrunner, shifting his focus from comparing himself to the other Democrats to putting his record up against President George W. Bush, saying he is the only candidate who can beat Bush and who represents a real difference from the current occupant of the White House.

But there is a fact about Kerry's past that brings him closer to Bush than any of the other candidates. Both Bush and Kerry are members of a secretive society dating back to their respective days at Yale University - Skull and Bones. This fact has not been widely reported but when Kerry's campaign spokesperson was asked about it, she said, "John Kerry has absolutely nothing to say on that subject. Sorry."






October 17, 2006,Will be remembered as the Enabling day of the 21st Century!
"The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures..."
~Adolf Hitler, March 23, 1933, before the German Parliament (Reichstag) as he urged them to pass his "Enabling Act"

Got Fascism Yet?


http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/bush-nazilinkconfirmed.htm



Fascism Accomplished!

[blm]

50. How do you feel about voting for Bill Clinton?

Since Kerry is the one who worked from 1985-1996 to UNCOVER, INVESTIGATE and EXPOSE BushInc's crimes in IranContra, BCCI, illegal wars in Central America and CIA drugrunning.

Clinton took office and closed the books on all the outstanding matters related to those crimes of BushInc.

Clinton was never a S&B.

Do you even realize that YOU and I wouldn't know HALF the evil committed by BushInc over these many years if Kerry hadn't worked diligently, and often DANGEROUSLY alone, to expose it and get it on record?

Study history before you attack the guy who exposed more government corruption than any lawmaker in modern history.

I think Bush operatives are working to tear Kerry down.

[sce56]

51. I have also heard he did more to cover up the worst of the Iran Contra

affair as the inside guy. Once a Skull & Boner always a Skull & Boner!
October 17, 2006,Will be remembered as the Enabling day of the 21st Century!
"The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures..."
~Adolf Hitler, March 23, 1933, before the German Parliament (Reichstag) as he urged them to pass his "Enabling Act"
Got Fascism Yet?


Fascism Accomplished!

[blm]

52. You believed a LIE. Kerry worked for a year to uncover IranContra and when

he finally found enough evidence to warrant prosecution, the Senate shut him out of the hearings at the request of Reagan-Bush administration.

You don't KNOW real history or the congressional record, do you? Try reading the National Security Archives.

When they wouldn't let him on the senate panel he insisted he be allowed to pursue other matters he uncovered and that led to BCCI investigation.


And the FACT REMAINS, and that you won't answer - Kerry UNCOVERED and EXPOSED more government corruption than any other lawmaker in modern history - what does that say about every other lawmaker in DC over the last 30 years?

Clinton - a nonS&Ber - COVERED UP MORE GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION for BushInc than any other lawmaker.

And THAT is a historic FACT.

[sce56]

55. How many in Congress have actualy explained what happened on 911?

I don't care for Clinton either seems he might have had a drug connection in Arkansas also part of the Bush Crime ring! But the fact is that Kerry blew it on his speech that is now being used to say he pissed off the right wingers that had given up on this election now they will vote or at least Rove will use that to explain the discrepancies in the polls versus the (nod wink wink) official results via Black Box systems (rigged electronically). He also threw in th towel to soon he was ripped off in Ohio but after all the talk about keeping an eye on the vote he did nothing to question the discrepancies in OHIO. Like I say once a Skull& Boner always a Skull& Boner. Show me why we should believe in anyone that belongs to that secret society!!!!!



Fascism Accomplished!

[blm]

56. Kerry was being UNDERMINED that entire election by the CLinton people.

They all knew Kerry would get in and open the books, just as he has wanted to for years, and evidenced in the many times he took Bush1 to court to release more documents in BCCI.

His speech if you bothered to stay informed, was a joke he has said many times stumping for candidates. He dropped a PRONOUN and BushInc LIED to twist it into something that never happened, and then Hillary jumped in and sided with Bush.

How you can twist that into the idea that Kerry did it to help Bush is as absurd as it gets.

If anyone helped Bush it was Hillary.

[Toots]

48. Only in your world

Kerry is a great man just as most Democrats who have achieved such status. I will gladly vote for him if he is once again nominated. He is not my first choice as he was not my first choice in 2004 but he is a good and honest man.

[MannyGoldstein]

4. The Republicans Can Do No Right

I think at this point, every time a rethug opens their mouth it pisses people off. They are incompetent evil liars, and everyone that will ever know it, knows it. All they can do is shut up and not make things worse for themselves.

The Democrats seem to have already learned that nobody likes them - so they're basically shutting up. Of course, if they take the Congress, the "shut up and triangulate" strategy will be tougher to pull off.

[w4rma]

9. Democrats have *not* 'shut up'. In fact Democratic ads are going full steam

in every state. And Democrats are still putting out news releases for big media to report on. But, as usual, big media is *not* reporting what Democrats are saying.

THAT is one of my biggest pet peeves: When people, who should know better, blame Democrats and liberals for the corporate media not covering our points of view.

[LoZoccolo]

5. It also means their spin machine in general is broken.

Ha ha! No one's listening anymore!

[blm]

13. Their spin machine is causing BACKLASH now. Military Times calling for

Rumsfeld's firing could be part of the military saying they are DONE with the spin machine. Bush used the troops to lie....yet AGAIN.

[lady lib]

6. K&R for improving my mood.

:kick:

[K8-EEE]

7. YEAH! THIS POST IS BETTER THAN PROZAK!

Another K&R from El Lay!

[bunkerbuster1]

8. They call this stuff "Porn" over at Atrios

actually it's call pr0n... but in any case, it's good pr0n, I know it when I see it!

[BuyingThyme]

14. Projected New House*: 240 Democrats 195 Republicans

Projected New House*: 240 Democrats 195 Republicans
* Where no independent polls exist, the 2004 election results have been used. See complete House polls.

Dem pickups: AZ-05 AZ-08 CA-11 CO-07 CT-02 CT-04 CT-05 FL-13 FL-16 FL-22 IA-01 ID-01 IL-06 IL-10 IN-02 IN-08 KY-03 KY-04 NC-08 NC-11 NH-02 NM-01 NY-19 NY-20 NY-24 NY-25 NY-29 OH-01 OH-02 OH-15 OH-18 PA-06 PA-07 PA-08 PA-10 TX-22 WI-08

GOP pickups:

http://electoral-vote.com/

[Marr]

15. If anything, I think the Kerry thing hurt them.

Their spin was so transparently lame, only an absolute idiot would believe it. They made it clear again just how stupid they think their supporters are.

That might've played well a few years ago, but people are sick of them now.

[blm]

20. That is EXACTLY the point Tom Friedman made in his column yesterday

and just raked BushInc over the coals.

[roamer65]

32. It did hurt them. No one likes a bully.

...and that's exactly how the Rethugs appeared to people on the Kerry "issue".

[FedUpWithIt All]

34. And now is an excellent time to call them on it....

I work in a small store and many of the regulars are republicans. When any mention of Kerry came up i simply said, "It sure is a shame that think we are incredibly stupid and unable to think outside of their pre-approved framework". I was amazed at how affective this line was. People are tired of being treated like idiots. They are tired of being used. They are tired of Bush.

[madmusic]

16. Gingrich is the biggest asshole in the GOP and we should never forgive him...

for this:

Examples
How Newt Gingrich used these techniques

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How Newt Gingrich used these techniques





This example occurred more than ten years ago, but it is one of the most striking applications of propaganda techniques in recent memory. A popular Republican politician on his way to the top, Newt Gingrich clearly understood the power of propaganda. His political action committee (GOPAC) mailed a pamphlet entitled Language, A Key Mechanism of Control to Republicans across the country. The booklet offered rhetorical advice to Republican candidates who wanted to "speak like Newt." It was subsequently awarded a Doublespeak Award by the National Conference of Teachers of English in 1990.

The booklet contained two lists of words. GOP candidates were instructed to use one set of "positive, governing words," (glittering generalities) when speaking about themselves. A second set of negative words (name-calling words) were to be used against their opponents.

* View the glittering generalities.
* View the name-calling words.

A brief glance at the words on Gingrich's lists suggests that they continue to be powerful tools in American political discourse. Words such as "vision, courage, lead, learn, commitment, empower, and freedom" are common to politicians on all sides of the political spectrum. Call-in radio hosts regularly use words like "ideological, liberal, bureaucracy, crisis, endanger, and lie" to discredit certain ideas.

http://www.propagandacritic.com/articles/examples.newt.html

He is solely responsible for how ugly politics is today.

[Rainscents]

17. I have a DREAM... GO DEM'S!!!!

[Quixote1818]

21. It sounds like Bush could be pushing some of those red states toward out side.

I just hope Bush keeps campaigning. He is helping us!

[Cha]

22. And here's to all the

disappointed hand-wringers..:toast:

[emulatorloo]

26. Kick for making me smile - GO DEMS!!!!!!!!! n/t

[DesertRat]

28. Great news! k&r

:kick:

[wisteria]

29. I could of told you that. Kerry would help us gain even more.

Even before they silenced their best voice, he got the message out. The administration owes the American people an apology. Kerry 08!!!!!!

[LeftCoast]

33. Aw, that's ok. I'm sure we're still doomed for some reason or other

:)

[roamer65]

35. Notice how these numbers are drawing closer to Bush's...

disapproval/approval numbers. As Sullivan suggested, "It's not an election, its an intervention". This is fast becoming a referendum on Bush.

[roamer65]

36. The only thing we're fighting now is Rethuglican gerrymandering.

Since they've conrolled quite a few state legislatures, quite a few states are pretty badly gerrymandered. I'm NOT saying we're gonna lose, but the gain would be much higher if the seats had been drawn in a fair and equitable manner. I think we're gonna gain 30-45 seats in the House.

[argyl]

37. I dunno. Looks like Smirk really has that Iowa crowd pumped up.

[progressoid]

38. Not to worry. That is an aberration here.

Bush picked the reddest part of the state for his little rally. Most of the state is going BLUE. There is just this little pocket of kool-aid drinkers.

[argyl]

42. I need to get one of them sarcasm icons.That crowd looks bored

to tears. If that's the best he can do in the reddest part of Iowa then WTG Iowa!

[provis99]

40. aahhh! i read the name newt gingrich!

my eyes are on fire

[autorank]

44. Exactly. Sure they'll change theire vote on life-death issues based on

a bunch of media clowns running a story that people don't care aobut.

They know Kerry is a decent guy and they know that there's no reason to doubt that.

What they know that's even more important is that the WH crew Must GO!!!

KR

[Seabiscuit]

49. Any optimism depends on whether our votes count.

Chances are, with 80% of votes counted on hackable touch-screen machines, nothing will change, even if in truth we scored a landslide.

[0rganism]

53. their "72 hour strategy" starts now

Watch out.

'nuff said.