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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:17 AM
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Is this obvious, or ? (re: Saddam verdict)
I had thought the whole point was to get Iraqis out in the streets, celebrating the verdict, so that the MSM can show how happy the Iraqi people are and how the US actually *did* do them a huge favor.

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:19 AM
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1. Well
A lot of the country is under martial law
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:23 AM
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7. like anything else lately..............

The incompetence is bound to have to have screwed it up and they have not looked at the fallout.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:29 AM
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16. probably
For the sake of our soldiers and the citizens of that country, I hope not.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:32 AM
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17. I trust most americans......

can see this as a cheap political ploy before an election but as i read somewhere last night, someone wrote in a british newspaper that "not even parading OBL on the whitehouse lawn shackled can save this election", it would seem that americans indeed have had enough.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:37 AM
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19. Yeah, I don't think anything short of martial law will save this one.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:55 AM
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24. Hi sunonmars!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:19 AM
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2. I really do know what is the point......
How does this change the realities of the situation that we find ourselves....
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:21 AM
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4. It doesn't; but I could see some people using it
to feel better about the Iraq war
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:20 AM
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3. Kinda like the Iraqi's greeting the soldiers with flowers for Shock and Awing them?
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:22 AM
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6. Well, not really
In this case, they get to celebrate the imminent death of their feared leader.

Am I reading this wrong?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:27 AM
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12. Some feared him, some loved him.

Many of them think they were a bit better off under him.

Others thank us for removing him and wish we'd leave.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:22 AM
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5. Bad planning...

The over night news cycle will fade into the sunday football games... and by then there will be new images of violence (night time Iraq) to replace the staged crap we are seeing now. (no doubt there are Iraqis that want Saddam dead, but masses of children in the streets??? oh good grief!)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:23 AM
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8. Why violence?
I don't get why this would precipitate violence?
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:26 AM
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9. It could furthur.....
Inflame ethnic tensions....
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:33 AM
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18. The entire city of Baghdad has been on high alert since last night...
when there was an early evening curfew. Baghdad is under total lockdown right now, according to CNN.

I would think that the answer to your question would be fairly obvious. The Ba'athist Party (like the Republicans, here) used to control the government in Iraq. Imagine if someone invaded the USA and stuck the prez on trial at a kangaroo court, found him guilty, and sentenced him to hang. Think any Rethugs would be upset?
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:38 AM
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20. you know what this will do.......

is push the sunni's and their supporters so far into al qaeda, it'll be the sunni iraqi al qaeda. The most sensible thing to do here was lock him up and throw away the key, by hanging him it shows:

A : We let a country use executions, (how reformed is that) and yes what an example in the middle east.

B : We will have boatloads of trouble coming our way now because of this.

C : Yeah we caught one old man, while we let the rest of the middle east go to kaka.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:25 AM
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23. The Shia will celebrate the sentencing of their tormentor...

And the Shia look to be doing paybacks (death squads, etc) for the decades of minority rule by Sunnis (Baathist party). The Sunnis will, in turn, resent the celebrations and want to seek revenge.

It will be like the Northern Irish Orangemen parades. It will incite people to violence.

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Polethebear Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:26 AM
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10. Still.........
Some PPL here I fear will still buy this as a sign of success and you know,drink the kool aid and vote Repug. I pray not.

By the way,don't think this won't be over the news all day today,new violence or not.

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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:26 AM
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11. Congratulations, we are about to create a martyr

Trust me on this, as a guy living in the middle east, this is going to cause an awful amount of trouble that will even overwhelm the american troops, big big disaster. You think before is bad, you wait for this.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:27 AM
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13. What masses of children?
What am I missing in my cable-free existence?
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LindyHope Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:28 AM
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14. .
Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 05:29 AM by LindyHope
NT
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LindyHope Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:29 AM
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15. Sunnis are gonna go ballistic nt
nt
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:56 AM
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25. Hi LindyHope!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:47 AM
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21. They showed a clip (not sure if it was current) of Sadr City...
with happy faces and people clapping. Probably the same ones they hired for the staged pull-down of Saddam's statue, it was just a few. I would think that the Shia will be very happy, but the reporter had earlier said that all of Baghdad was under imposed lockdown, so who knows where that tape of smiles came from...the press is hunkered down.

Now they are showing the same clip again, along with some more footage of angry faces and burning things in the street. This while the Iraqi court officials are holding a press conference, speaking of the verdicts.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:20 AM
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22. CNN showed a"tight shot" of a demonstration
by children, most of whom looked to be 6 or 7 years old, celebrating the verdict. I counted maybe 30, and there were some adults around the group of jumping up and down kids. I wish there had been a wide shot to see what else was happening or how large the demonstration really was. Anyway, it looked staged. But then any rally with 6 year olds is going to be staged (unless Barney or Spongebob are doing a promo).

Anyway, it's not on anymore, just played a couple of times.
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