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neverevergivein Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:31 PM
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This is how serious THEY take us!!!
Asked if the administration was taking Kerry's call for a filibuster seriously, White House press secretary Scott McClellan chuckled on Friday and said: "I think it was a historic day yesterday. It was the first ever call for a filibuster from the slopes of Davos, Switzerland."

If we don't filibuster this SOB, this is how they will look at us forever. Hollow threats, never follow through. You have got to be kidding me. FIGHT, just fight damn it. Show some backbone. Show you care!!!!!!! This is more important than your political career, it is our LIVES!!!!
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:33 PM
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1. K&R
Hell Yea!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:33 PM
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2. What else do you expect Puffy McMoonface to say?
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 12:33 PM by sparosnare
Of course they won't admit they're taking this seriously. Bunch of weasels are scared though; they have no idea what's going to happen. I could care less what they say about us. ;)
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:34 PM
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3. You're absolutely right.
We can't win. We all know that. But we can lose even worse if we don't go down fighting.

But in the end, we have to win in 2006, or we're just fartin' in the wind.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:35 PM
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4. k & r!!
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:36 PM
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5. And where exactly was Frist yesterday when he "called-in" his order for...
a vote this coming Monday???????

Ass-hole Scotty!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:17 PM
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21. I'll answer--at DAVOS--the liberal frenchie capitol of flip floppery
along with Orrin Hatch, John McCain and Elaine Chao--and oh, a few Dems.
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 09:08 PM
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28. God damned elitists!!!!!!
:grr:

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:36 PM
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6. ooh, sounds like a "bring it on" call
fight Dems, fight!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:37 PM
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7. He's just spinning more of their crap. This remark is aimed at
making Democrats look like the party that won't represent the "common man" like the Republican party can. After all, Democrats go skiing and <gasp> windsurfing. George Bush cuts brush. What more do you need to know?
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:04 PM
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20. yeah, right -w/ an upside down chain saw n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:38 PM
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8. At least Kerry wasn't MIA and staring into space while disasters struck.
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 12:39 PM by ProSense
Fight like hell!



edited to "disasters" in title
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Savannah Progressive Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:39 PM
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9. In my lifetime I have seen a horrible change
Our party has gone from the party of the people, the party of change, to this state. We have become the punchline of the Repugniks who are destroying our nation.

This filibuster has become what may be our last battle, we must fight, we must win. I live in Georgia, in one of the few districts with a Democratic Congressman.

We have to show the Repugniks that we aren't a joke, we are the Democratic Party, and we must defeat this nomination.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:45 PM
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11. That was one of the few legitimate
punchlines those trolls ever had delivered to them on a plate with bended knee. In reality Switzerland DOES suggest Kerry is making deliberate distance from his own call to arms. As a continued example of his ability to create monumental blunders...do we want more?

We make fascism look very easy.
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:52 PM
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13. Does Kerry intend to come back to vote???
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:00 PM
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18. He's flying back today n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:00 PM
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17. Read more
He's at one of the most important economic summits in the world, as is McCain, Biden, Frist and a slew of people from Bush's own cabinet. Kerry cancelled a prestigious even in Ireland on Sunday, just to fly back and handle this in person. This is exactly why we're the punchline, our own people don't bother to educate themselves and fight their lies.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 09:33 PM
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33. Except a man who looked and sounded like Kerry
gave an impassioned speech on the floor of the Senate (which is STILL in DC - not Davos) today.

He was in the Senate wednesday - where he gave a speech and went to his caucus lunch - then he went to Davos economic conference (He is on the Finance committee and the small business committee) - then was in the Senate on Friday.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:42 PM
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10. And back in August, why didn't Scotty say:
"I think it was a historic day yesterday, when Katrina hit. It was the first ever lack of a Presidential call for action from a pig ranch in Crawford, Texas."

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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:49 PM
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12. scotty needs to vacate DC and breathe some fresh air
Why are these wimps still swiftboating Kerry? Kerry is in Switzerland for the World Economic Forum... maybe Bushco wasn't invited this year.
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JamRock Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:53 PM
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14. If Bush could get to the World Economic Forum he would learn a
a few things from Kerry's speach.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:53 PM
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15. Historical footnote - the repukes scheduled a key, politically charged
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 01:07 PM by zbdent
vote on Veterans' benefits while Kerry was halfway across the country.

Kerry flew back in haste to get there to cast his vote - and the Repukes "rescheduled" the vote for when he would be out on the campaign trail again . . .

Edited to add:

Sorry, I meant to point out that this stuff happened during Kerry's campaign for President . . .
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:59 PM
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16. That was spur of the moment
Specter DID try to get an immediate vote probably for that reason, but just how critical in world history is that Swiss meeting? This is hardly a surprise and even if bumped up a filibuster demands a lot of support and preparation. It looks to me the other way around and that Kerry was diplomatically out of Dodge- which seems to any ordinary(sane) person like a gross miscalculation whatever the motive.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:02 PM
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19. Let me guess
It also looked to you like the swift boat vets had some grain of truth in their attacks on Senator Kerry's service, otherwise why would they say all that stuff. Right?
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:18 PM
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22. None at all
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 01:23 PM by PATRICK
I am just saying you can take all the predictable Repug strategies out of the equation and one has to wonder why a trip to Switzerland was such a hot committment. The Repug strategy failed anyway unless it forced Kerry to make a premature statement away from DC. ALL of that aside, I wondered in a post before I read Snotty's quip, at the symbolism of making a strategic charge from- the Alps? It seemed deliberate to
keep the Dems from looking like they were huddled in a wrestling match. That worked. The separateness does not look so bad nor the differences so threatening. It DOES make it look like the filibuster issue has diivided them and they agree to do their own way without too much backbiting. And it probably means they agreed there was no chance for a successful filibuster as things stand among themselves.

All of those guesses don't amount to my taking sides with the GOP. Just pardon me if I feel the sting of another Kerry choice in its own right and at least this one is purely symbolic. It doesn't necessarily show he has any blame for the failure of a united filibuster.

As to the importance of the summit, of course it is legitimate and important, but MORE important? Biden was there and he doesn't want to filibuster. Kerry didn't want to look that desperate. Sure it is a trap
whether a coincidence or not. The fact he didn't come back means he likely doesn't have to because it won't make all that much of a difference. You could interpret that two ways and I picked one.

But whoever advises the Dems on PR ops should be exiled to the melting North Pole.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:28 PM
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26. Your last sentence
Perhaps no one is advising on PR ops because it isn't a PR op. He was fighting for the filibuster before he ever left for Davos. Perhaps it was looking like they would make the right choice and chose to go to the summit because of that. Perhaps he knows that a cell phone in Switzerland works the same as a cell phone in DC. Perhaps he thought he could influence some of the Senators in person, like Biden, who just so happens to be at Davos too. I don't wonder why he went to Davos, it is one of the most important economic summits of the year. You really have no grasp of international politics if you'd willingly diminish that particular global economic forum to "the Alps".
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:48 PM
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27. OK
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 01:53 PM by PATRICK
Vastly important, crucial summit vs. Constitutional crisis. One you can handle with a cell phone. The other in the flesh. How do think the American people whatever the reality or logic will see it? How easily can it be simplified and used which in itself is a typical political response?

Personally, I think it's fine he gets something done overseas if it doesn't matter back home. Nor can i dislike a guy simply because he gets set up and knocked down either by design or circumstances so long as he keeps punching. Personally too, not to be an isolationist, I think it much more critical for the world to repair the USA so that in coming years it won't only be the ruling GOP attending. On the other hand, I'm not really sure even a successful filibuster can be decisive turning point against this administration. These are just a bunch of irritated opinions.

I'm all excited to see how the Summit comes out.

But right now I am enjoying listening to Kerry on the floor.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:24 PM
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23. It's impossible to overestimate the importance of a Davos forum
I don't like the anti-democratic nature of the forum, but issues discussed there and alliances formed can conceivably mean life and death for the entire planet or for large portions of humanity.

Giving him the benefit of the doubt -- that he's not there just for purely personal gain -- it is actually quite responsible for him to work both Davos and this vote.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 09:28 PM
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32. Oh, my God, a post from a sane person about the Davos issue!
May I just tell you how grateful I am to see this? THANK YOU.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:27 PM
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24. delet, dupe. nt.
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 01:27 PM by uppityperson
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:27 PM
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25. Yes, he's busy working there and keeping up with stuff at home.
Good job Kerry. Nice to be able to multitask, eh Scotty? Aren't telephones an amazing thing?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 09:13 PM
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29. I want so much to see that smug little giggle
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 09:16 PM by Blue_In_AK
wiped off his fat little face. These people make me sick with their arrogance.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 09:18 PM
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30. McClellan is a nobody, with no credibility, who lies
every day he's in public. The corp. media whores who keep repeating this are just as bad.
I know I feel powerless in the face of the lies, too. :-(
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 09:22 PM
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31. Im like the Steelers. I love being underestimated.
Keep it up guys. Watching your party disintegrate, ethically, morally, and totally before our eyes becomes so much more gratifying when you do that.

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:47 AM
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34. Ah yes, but it isn't the first time we've been snowed in DC
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