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Sun Nov-05-06 12:02 PM
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Breaking: Ted Haggard says he's Guilty of Sexual Immorality |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:04 PM
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1. The way this dude has dragged out his confession is remarkable! |
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Keeping it in the news! Gotta' love him.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:04 PM
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:14 PM
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20. Interesting how he timed it when all his constituents would be in |
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Sun Nov-05-06 01:18 PM
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38. and on their KNEES - what a cooincidence... |
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Mon Nov-06-06 04:38 AM
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46. He's dragging out his confession... |
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And DU is helping every step of the way. I think there've been more individual threads on him than on Mark Foley. Funny how one Jesus freak gets ten times the attention that Bush's Arabic A-bomb plans do.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:04 PM
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well, well, well. What a surprise, he was fibbing.
:rofl:
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:08 PM
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Here was a day he wanted Saddam's verdict to dominate the Sunday news cycle and ----curses! Foiled again!!! DAMN these right wing hypocrites! Don't they know anything about the importance of timing their confessions on a FRIDAY???
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:05 PM
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4. When is he going into rehab??? |
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Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 12:06 PM by mohinoaklawnillinois
What a hypocrite.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:05 PM
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5. Has he actually admitted to sexual acts or was it just in his head?? |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:26 PM
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...you said "head". And didn't someone say that Haggard claimed he "just licked his balls"?
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Sun Nov-05-06 01:19 PM
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39. but the point is - he didn't INHALE!!!! |
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Sun Nov-05-06 02:34 PM
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44. Oh, well, you're not required to inhale... |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:05 PM
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6. Oh, he's not guilty of anything... well maybe the drug thing.. and |
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maybe hiring a male prostitute.. but being gay is not a crime.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:05 PM
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7. "I AM A LIAR AND A DECEIVER." |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:06 PM
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8. "Sexual Immorality"... These People Just Don't Get It |
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Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 12:06 PM by stepnw1f
What's immoral, Ted, is your demonizing of sexuality is what's immoral. This is what causes you and your familiy and people in this country so much pain. It's your own self-bigotry and the bigotry of a whole section of people in this country and around the World. Your views on sexuality are twisted... therefore your life will self-destruct. You are the ATTACKER. You seek the road of the unnatural.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:10 PM
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15. Well he was screwing around on his wife |
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- even this leftist liberal doesn't find that a moral act.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:13 PM
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He didn't say that, did he? He is bashing his own sexuality and once again hiding behind the veil of "immorality".
Also, did I say it wasn't immoral to screw around on ones spouse? No...
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:14 PM
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19. if adultery was REALLY immoral it would be banned by constitutional amendment nt |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:17 PM
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:20 PM
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26. Really. Maybe he meant that getting busted as a lying hypocrite is sexual immorality. - n/t |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:32 PM
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34. "getting busted as a lying hypocrite is sexual immorality." |
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If that's what he meant, then he is even more confused than I once thought. I seriously doubt that since I have heard many right wingers say the very thing he said about Homosexuality being "immoral". He did not clearly state that nor do I believe he wanted to.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:06 PM
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9. Why can't he just say, "Hey, I paid for gay sex." |
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I don't see why he has to bring morality into it, as though he ever had any, as though he even aspires to it.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:07 PM
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10. pretty immoral fuckin around on his wife n/t |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:08 PM
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13. He DIdn't Admit to That Either.. |
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Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 12:09 PM by stepnw1f
he admitted to being "sexually immoral"... as in homosexuality is immoral.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:15 PM
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21. i didn't hear the words the man used, but are you assuming, firstly |
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and secondly yes he did commit sexually immoral as screwing on his wife. my point,.... redefine and take away, regardless of what he means, and put it where it belongs, infidelity to wife, and loss of trust with children
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:16 PM
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23. That's Not What He Said (nt) |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:07 PM
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11. He is Denying What He Really Is |
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He can't face the truth......
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:13 PM
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17. That's why he believes homosexuality is a "choice." |
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It isn't a choice for the rest of us. We are what we are, gay or straight. But he spends every minute of his life fighting the temptation to be himself and making the "choice."
It explains so much about that brand of christianity.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:15 PM
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22. Yes... He is Probably Bi |
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Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 12:16 PM by stepnw1f
Who knows... the problem is his perception of sexuality itself. If he had lived an open life, he would not be in the predicament he currently finds himself.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:25 PM
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28. It could be argued that being bi IS a choice. At least it INVOLVES a choice -- which, of course, |
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is not open to either gay or straight people -- of having a relationship with a man OR a woman. As Woody Allen said, "Bisexuality immediately doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night."
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:28 PM
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31. But Being Bisexual is not a Choice |
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It means you are attracted to both sexes regardless. Bisexuality is not a choice in itself.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:30 PM
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33. I see your point, and of course you're right... |
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But you'll have to admit there's a larger pool to jump in.
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Sun Nov-05-06 01:29 PM
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40. Bisexual doesn't preclude monogamy, however. |
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Just because he's attracted to people of both sexes doesn't mean he can't honor a monogamous commitment.
His failure to "walk the walk" is a result of a corrupt character, not sexual orientation.
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Sun Nov-05-06 01:33 PM
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You are misreading what I did say and assuming the worst.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:18 PM
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25. This is a GREAT point. nt |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:21 PM
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27. Interesting how common that notion is among homophobes, isn't it? |
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It makes me wonder what percentage of the homophobic shriekers are gay themselves? It doesn't make sense for them to be so passionately freaked out about it otherwise. :shrug:
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Mon Nov-06-06 04:24 AM
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45. Especially their belief that homosexuality is contagious. |
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If you're around it, you'll catch it. Straight people just don't have that particular problem.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:26 PM
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29. Actually, that church believes in a literal version of the Devil |
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Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 12:52 PM by William Seger
... who actively goes around encouraging people to sin. Basically, Ted will "cop a plea" of having fallen victim to the Devil, effectively ducking any real morality or sexuality issues -- or responsibility for his own actions. Then all he has to do is claim that he's "cast out" the Devil, and everything will be cool again.
So, this childish view of morality is actually very useful, huh.
(Edit: Think of Flip Wilson's old tag line, "The Devil made me do it!" and of those old cartoons where the little angel and little devil try to get a character to do or not do something. Then, imagine people for whom these are "realities" instead of metaphors, and you've got a good picture of Evangelical Baptists.)
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:10 PM
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14. There's no such thing. He's guilty of HYPOCRISY. |
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He's guilty of being JUDGEMENTAL. He's guilty of DISHONESTY. He's guilty of using religion as a cover for FRAUD.
He's guilty of being a self-centered, amoral DOUCHEBAG.
And he's guilty of telling people that a ridiculous, phobic medieval notion like "Sexual Immorality" is GOD'S WILL.
FUCK YOU, Ted. And not in the fun way.
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Sun Nov-05-06 01:30 PM
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41. Yep. It's a matter of corrupt character, not sexual orientation. |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:13 PM
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16. I bet he had sex with minors too. |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:29 PM
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32. I sure am glad this lyin sack of shit is explaining about immorality. |
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I couldn't have figured it out myself.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:33 PM
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35. Ted, what you are guilty of, aside from hypocrisy is: |
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Believing you could get away with it, because of who you are... err were. With your connections to the WH, you felt yourself protected. Untouchable.
How are the mighty fallen indeed.
Welcome to the reality of the Bushco Bus Line. Under you go, and you're now someone we DID NOT KNOW.
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:43 PM
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36. Just proves again that you can't trust a man with a square-cornered smile. |
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Sun Nov-05-06 12:45 PM
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37. Ted, listen to me. Your crime isn't "sexual immorality". It's |
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hypocrisy and adultery.
There's a difference.
Homosexual behavior in itself is not a sin.
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Sun Nov-05-06 01:38 PM
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43. Jeez the a$$hole still can't tell the truth! |
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FYI-Teddy Boy:
You are a hypocrite! You cheated on your wife! You smeared the gay community! You helped put the rethuglicans in power who have in turn ruined this country!
F*ck You! :grr:
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