No, not by Saddam Hussein.
"Many Iraqi soldiers were killed by the simple expedient of burying them alive: in one report, American earthmovers and ploughs mounted on tanks were used to attack more than 70 miles of trenches. Colonel Anthony Moreno commented that for all he knew, 'we could have killed thousands'.
One US commander, Colonel Lon Maggart, estimated that his forces alone had buried about 650 Iraqi soldiers.
"What you saw was a bunch of buried trenches with peoples arms and things sticking out of them,' observed Moreno.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=45 The US Pentagon defended this atrocity, saying there was a "gap" in international law that allowed for burying the troops alive.http://jeff.paterson.net/aw/aw4_buried_alive.htm Then there was the Basra massacre, aka The Highway of Death. On March 2, 1991, Iraq announced over public radio that it was withdrawing from Kuwait. The surrendering soldiers, as well as families of Iraq and other nations seeking to escape the US ariel bombings, went down the Basra road to Southern Iraq.
Above them, the U.S. bombed both ends of the highway, ensuring that there would be no escape from what was to follow. Along the seven-mile stretch, the U.S. then killed thousands. On some planes, the PA system bleated out Rossini’s William Tell Overture (the Lone Ranger theme).
http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0212/pt04.html The Highway of Death
“Even in Vietnam I didn’t see anything like this. It’s pathetic.“ — Major Bob Nugent, Army intelligence officer.
On the Highway of Death
"It was like going down an American highway—people were all mixed up in cars in trucks. People got out of their cars and ran away. We shot them....The Iraqis were getting massacred."
—Pfc. Charles Sheehan-Miles
"We've blown away a busload of kids."
—Unidentified platoon sergeant during March 2 assault.
http://www.cornerstonemag.com/pages/show_page.asp?7 "We're yelling on the radio, 'They're firing at the prisoners! They're firing at the prisoners!'
—Specialist 4 Edward Walker, describing February 27, 1991, incident during ground invasion of Iraq.
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27c/069.html The UK Parliament commented on the Basra road massacre:
UK Parliament
House of Commons
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Hon. Members will know that I am not emotional about many subjects. But I suggest that, emotionally, we shall be haunted for a long time to come by what has happened in the last few weeks. We shall be haunted in particular by what occurred on the Basra road. That was done in the name of the American Congress and the British House of Commons.
http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cmPM (Tony the bLiar) admits graves claim 'untrue'July 18, 2004
Downing Street has admitted to The Observer that repeated claims by Tony Blair that '400,000 bodies had been found in Iraqi mass graves' is untrue, and only about 5,000 corpses have so far been uncovered.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,1263830,00.html"Iraqi Mass Graves" In Perspective
In the past few months the graves of thousands of civilians have been unearthed in war-torn Iraq. Not surprisingly, the White House has wasted no time in declaring the dead to be prime examples of Saddam Hussein's brutality and a further justification for our invasion. But a check of the historical record on this matter reveals yet another calculated distortion by the administration and its supporters.
At the end of the 1991 Gulf War legions of Shia radicals - the kind we've seen clamoring for an Islamic state - attacked and killed anyone connected to Iraq's secular government. Urged to "take matters into their own hands" by the first Bush administration and mistakenly believing that Iraq's army had been destroyed, armed militants went from city to city in southern Iraq mercilessly butchering scores of innocents.
All told, several thousand military personnel, policemen, clerks, and employees of the government were slain, according to Omar Ali, another regional authority.
Accepting Washington's pronouncements about a vanquished Iraqi military, up to 400,000 Kurds undertook a ferocious spree of mayhem that rivaled that of the Shia. According to Mackay, in the city of Kirkuk "no one bothered to count how many servants of Baghdad were shot, beheaded, or cut to shreds with the traditional dagger stuck in the cummerbund of every Kurdish man. By the time Kurdish rage had exhausted itself, piles of corpses lay in the streets awaiting removal by bulldozers."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/09/12_graves.html"It was a revolution," says one Basrawi rebel named Mohamad, who deserted his army unit after the intifada began and eventually made it to the United States. "It was glorious. There were demonstrations and shooting. There were bodies all over the place. The persons who got killed on the Ba'athi side deserved to be killed."
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2001/11/iraq.htmlThis, then is the primary source of the "mass graves" of Iraq.
What government in the world would refrain from using all necessary means to quell a violent uprising of this kind? No one denies that the regimes response was swift and merciless, or that many innocents were caught up in the retaliation and destruction. But if blame is assigned, shouldn't it start with the instigators of the carnage along with the foreign government who misled them about the forces they were going up against and yet egged them on?
Like claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction or Baghdad's links to al Queda, the mass graves of Iraq are another example of history and reality being distorted to fit the ulterior motives of the White House.http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/433 Saddam's 'Mass Graves': The Third Big Bush Lie?The mass graves announcement was made November 8, 2003 by (bush appointee) Sandra Hodgkinson, at the time director of the Provisional Authority’s Mass Graves Action Plan. Hodgkinson reported that there were “reports” from Iraqis and that they believed the estimates of sites and bodies. She said they had confirmed 40 sites and identified 2,115 bodies.
But in July of 2004 Tony Blair’s office admitted that the number of bodies that had been found in mass graves had been exaggerated by 88%. The number of bodies was put at 5,114 and the estimates of 300,000-400,000 unsubstantiated.
The British are the source of USAID’s report on the subject. Therein they also cite Human Rights Watch. But Human Rights Watch did not consider the conditions in Iraq defensible in terms of humanitarian intervention: "The lack of ongoing or imminent mass slaughter was itself sufficient to disqualify the invasion of Iraq as a humanitarian intervention.” Amnesty International is also enlisted as support.
Is this Strike Three? Has mass graves taken its place with WMD and the 9/11-Iraqi-Al Qaeda connection? Has Bush struck out in his attempt to provide any justification for the Iraq War?
To exaggerate the scale of human liquidation for geopolitical ends is the moral equivalent of a capital crime, not a successful at bat in a political game.http://edstrong.blog-city.com/read/1040713.htm Iraq DID NOT invade Iran "unprovoked".Iran publicly announced their intentions of overthrowing Saddam's regime for months before the start of the Iran-Iraq war.
Iran bombed an Iraqi university, killing and wounding many students; Iran carried out some 25 assassination attempts (some successful) on various of Saddam's government members.
Iran gave the Kurds money & equipment to use to overthrow Saddam's regime. Iran then bombed several of Iraq's border towns, killing hundreds of civilians. The US Pentagon's own report talks about the many attempts Saddam made for a diplomatic solution with Iran; each of which Iran refused. Saddam was secular, Iran wanted Iraq to be fundamental Islamist. The Iranian bombing of the Iraqi border towns was the actual start of the war, although the USA calls the start the day Iraq attacked Iran back.
If Canada publicly announced intentions to overthrow the Bush regime, tried to assassinate members of Bush & the Bush regime, and bombed US border towns, you can be sure the USA would attack Canada and equally sure America would NOT be calling their attack "unprovoked".
http://www.ndu.edu/library/n2/n015602L.pdf The USA supported Iraq during the 8 years of the war, with money, sattelite photos of enemy positions, and equipment INCLUDING chemical and bio weapons, technical expertise, and plans for chemical weapons factories.
-The US rewarded Saddam after the Iran-Iraq war with billions in loan guarantees and agricultural credits right up until Aug 2, 1990, the day Iraq invaded Kuwait.
In the fall of 1989, at a time when Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was only nine months away and Saddam Hussein was desperate for money to buy arms, President Bush signed a top-secret National Security Decision directive ordering closer ties with Baghdad and opening the way for $1 billion in new aid.
* In 1987, Vice President Bush successfully pressed the federal Export-Import Bank to provide hundreds of millions of dollars in aid for Iraq, the documents show, despite staff objections that the loans were not likely to be repaid as required by law.
* After Bush became President in 1989, documents show that senior officials in his Administration lobbied the bank and the Agriculture Department to finance billions in new Iraqi projects.
* As vice president in 1987, Bush met personally with Nizar Hamdoon, Iraq's ambassador to the United States, to assure him that Iraq could buy more dual-use technology. It was three years later that National Security Council officials blocked the attempt by the Commerce Department and other agencies to restrict such exports.
* After Bush signed NSD 26 in October, 1989, Secretary of State James A. Baker III personally intervened with Agriculture Secretary Clayton K. Yeutter to drop Agriculture's opposition to the $1 billion in food credits. Yeutter, now a senior White House official, agreed and the first half of the $1 billion was made available to Iraq at the beginning of 1990.
* As late as July, 1990, one month before Iraqi troops stormed into Kuwait city, officials at the National Security Council and the State Department were pushing to deliver the second installment of the $1 billion in loan guarantees, despite the looming crisis in the region and evidence that Iraq had used the aid illegally to help finance a secret arms procurement network to obtain technology for its nuclear weapons and ballistic-missile program.
An Agriculture Department official cautioned in a February, 1990, internal memo that, when all the facts were known about loan guarantees to Iraq, the program could be viewed as another "HUD or savings-and-loan scandal."
Of the $5 billion in economic aid provided to Iraq over an eight-year period, American taxpayers have now been stuck for $2 billion in defaulted loans.
http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/2000/msg00776.html Then there's the "he gassed his own people" rhetoric.
The Kurds were not and never have been Saddam's "own people". Kurds fought with Iran against Iraq...and America supported Iraq.
"Talking points for the meeting include the Iran-Iraq war -the U.S. "would regard any major reversal of Iraq's fortunes as a strategic defeat for the West"
US declassified document, page 2-1A
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/iraq29.pdf -It was during a war; the US term is "collateral damage".
The UK "gassed the Kurds" during their own previous occupation of Iraq, 1917-1952, something Winston Churchill, the man bush likens himself to, said was a good thing to do.
"I do not understand squeamishness about the use of gas," Churchill wrote. "I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes."
Gas, chemicals, bombs: Britain has used them all before in Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,939608,00.htmlBritish Use of Chemical Weapons in Iraq
http://www.iraqwar.org/chemical.htm -The US supplied much of Iraq's chemical agents and technical expertise in how to weaponize, (just like the current Bush admin is offering to sell to India), as well as sattelite photos showing enemy positions
Yes, U.S. helped Iraq get chemical, biological weapons
You don't have to dig deep to find that from 1982 to 1990 the United States supplied Iraq with not only conventional arms and cash but also chemical and biological materials, including the precursors for anthrax and botulism.
A 1994 investigation by the Senate Bank Committee found that U.S. companies had been licensed by the Commerce Department to export a "witch's brew" of biological and chemical materials, including precursors of anthrax and botulism. The report also noted the exports included plans for chemical and biolgical warfare facilities and chemical warhead filling equipment.
"Only on Aug. 2, 1990, did the Agriculture Department officially suspend the (loan) guarantees to Iraq -- the same day that Hussein's tanks and troops swept into Kuwait," a Los Angeles Times expose on Feb. 23, 1992, noted.
http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/5674107.htm Both Iraq AND Iran were using chemical weapons.
The US State Department found both sides were using chemical weapons.
"There are indications that Iran may also have used chemical artillery shells in this fighting," spokesman Charles Redman told the press a week after the attack. "We call on Iran and Iraq to desist immediately from the use of any chemical weapons."
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0218/trilling.php On May 3, 1990, referring to yet another study, "A Defense Department reconstruction of the final stages of the Iran-Iraq war has assembled what analysts say is conclusive intelligence that one of the worst civilian massacres of the war, in the Iraqi Kurdish city of Halabja, was caused by "repeated chemical bombardments from both belligerent armies." "
Washington Post (May 3, 1990)
The US government itself later confirmed the fact that both sides had used gas and that, in all likelihood, Iranian gas killed the Kurds.
A Pentagon report, ‘Iraqi Power and U.S. Security in the Middle East’ published in 1990 states (Chapter 5): “In March 1988, the Kurds at Halabjah were bombarded with chemical weapons, producing a great many deaths. Photographs of the Kurdish victims were widely disseminated in the international media. Iraq was blamed for the Halabjah attack, even though it was subsequently brought out that Iran too had used chemicals in this operation, and it seemed likely that it was the Iranian bombardment that had actually killed the Kurds.” United Nations: No Proof Saddam Gassed the Kurds
http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/11-18-98.html -The Pentagon's USAWC and US Marine Corps report concluded Iran gassed the Kurds at Halbjah, not Iraq.
Lessons Learned: The Iran-Iraq War
by Dr. Stephen Pelletiere and Lieutenant Colonel Douglas Johnson
U.S. Army War College Strategic Studies Institute
"The great majority of the victims seen by reporters and other
observers who attended the scene were blue in their extremities. That means that they were killed by a blood agent, probably either cyanogen chloride or hydrogen cyanide. Iraq never used and lacked any capacity to produce these chemicals. But the Iranians did deploy them. Therefore the Iranians killed the Kurds."
US Marine Corps document FMFRP 3
"Blood agents were allegedly responsible for the most infamous use of chemicals in the war—the killing of Kurds at Halabjah. Since the Iraqis have no history of using these two agents—and the Iranians do—we conclude that the Iranians perpetrated this attack."
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/docs/3203 /
The DIA's report concluded Iran had gassed the Kurds & Iranians of Halabjah;
Immediately after the battle the United States Defense Intelligence Agency investigated and produced a classified report, which it circulated within the intelligence community on a need-to-know basis. That study asserted that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds, not Iraqi gas.
The agency did find that each side used gas against the other in the battle around Halabja. The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated
they had been killed with a blood agent - that is, a cyanide-based gas -which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time.
http://truthout.org/docs_02/020303C.htm The CIA's report mentions "hundreds" killed, not "5000" and against the Iranians primarily w Kurds caught in the cross-fire. This report is still on the US government website.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.htmHalabaja, the town where it took place, was at the time occupied by invading Iranian forces, and, according to MSNBC Internet Home News, hundreds of Iranians and civilians were killed, not thousands.
Then came the 1990 invasion of Kuwait, with the opportunity for yet more lies and a very good setting up of Saddam.
Remember, the USA was still paying money to Iraq right up until Aug 2, 1990, the day Iraq invaded. Iraq had made their intentions of invasion well-known in public in the UN. Kuwait was slant-drilling and pumping more oil than they were supposed to be and as well there was a long-standing border dispute between the two nations. This was no "surprise" invasion.
On 24 July 1990 two Iraqi armoured divisions moved from their bases to take up positions on the Kuwaiti border. Later the same day the US State Department spokeswoman, Margaret Tutwiler, asked whether the US had any military plans to defend Kuwait, replied: ‘We do not have any defense treaties with Kuwait, and there are no special defense or security commitments to Kuwait.’
On July 25th, US ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, met with Saddam Hussein to discuss the coming invasion;
Glaspie: "But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait.
"The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction."
http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/02-19-98.html On July 31, two days before the invasion, Assistant Secretary of State John Kelly testified before Chairman Lee Hamilton of House Foreign Affairs. Asked repeatedly if we would come to the defense of Kuwait if it were attacked, he insisted there was no obligation on our part to do so.
Meanwhile, Iraq prepared for a meeting the following day with Kuwait to negotiate a deal on the oil issues. The talks ended badly, with the Kuwaiti emir refusing to attend.
How did the USA get involved, attacking Iraq for invading Kuwait, after all the government's public assertions that "Arab to Arab conflicts are not our concern"? More lies, that's how.
Colin Powell said he had "top secret satellite photos" showing thousands of Iraqi troops massed on the Saudi border, showing that Iraq intended to invade into Saudi. That was a total lie. Satellite photos taken at the exact same time in the exact same place showed...nothing. Miles and miles of empty sand. It never happened.
The above was admitted to the following year by Powell...but it was far too late by then; some 400,000 Iraqi (and other nations) men, women and children were dead and hundreds of thousands more were wounded.
General Colin Powell; : "I think we could go to war if they invaded Saudi Arabia. I doubt if we would go to war over Kuwait."
Another lie, one which galvanized the American public's support for the 1991 Gulf War, was the horrendous story of Iraqis in Kuwaiti hospitals dumping babies out of incubators and leaving them to die on the floor. This was totally untrue, made up by the PR firm Bush41 had hired (the same PR firm Bush43 now uses).
President Bush(41) mentioned the incubator babies in five speeches and seven senators referred to them in speeches backing a pro-war resolution.
Later, Amnesty International, who had also been duped by the testimony, admitted it had got it wrong.
It had never happened.http://foi.missouri.edu/polinfoprop/nocasusbelli.html But there were more bodies to come. U.S. officials quickly voiced concerns about Iran's support of the Shiite rebels.
"I'm not sure whose side you'd want to be on," then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney said as the uprisings began. But in trying to drum up American public support for the current invasion, Cheney suddenly was very decisive on whose side one should be...12 years later.
Colin Powell, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that the Shiites, as well as the Kurds in the north, "never had a chance of succeeding, and their success was not a goal for the administration."
"Our practical intention was to leave Baghdad enough power to survive as a threat to an Iran that remained bitterly hostile toward the United States," Powell said in his book, "My American Journey."
So orders were given to the US troops to slow down the retreating rebels, and free passage was given to Saddam's Republican Guards chasing the rebels. The executions of the rebels happened SO CLOSE to the US troops, many were traumatized because they could actually see the executions taking place.
Detroit handed Saddam the key to the city in 1979
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/26/iraq/main546287.shtmlSaddam's regime was using much of Iraq's burgeoning oil revenue to improve the daily lives of its people. It even won UN humanitarian awards for its literacy programs.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/09/30/sproject.irq.regime.changeIn the case of Iraq, however, only 32 percent of respondents believed both that human rights abuses equivalent to genocide justified intervention and that such extreme violations were occurring under Hussein's rule.
Asked, "Do you think that there are other governments existing today that have human rights records as bad as that of Iraq under Saddam Hussein?" an overwhelming 88 percent said there are.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1114-06.htm The war in Iraq CANNOT be justified as an intervention in defense of human rights; HRW President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair cited the threat from Saddam's alleged weapons of mass destruction as their main reason for attacking Iraq. But as coalition forces have failed to find evidence of such weapons, both leaders have also highlighted the brutality of the regime when justifying military intervention.
Human Rights Watch, however, said SUCH CLAIMS WERE INVALID.
"The Bush administration cannot justify the war in Iraq as a humanitarian intervention, and neither can Tony Blair," executive director Kenneth Roth said.
Atrocities such as Saddam's 1988 mass killing of Kurds would have justified humanitarian intervention, Roth said.
``But such interventions should be reserved for stopping an imminent or ongoing slaughter," he added. ``They shouldn't be used belatedly to address atrocities that were ignored in the past."
The 407-page Human Rights Watch World Report 2004 also said the U.S. government was applying ``war rules" to the struggle against global terrorism and denying terror suspects their rights. It suggested that ``police rules" of law enforcement should be applied in such cases instead.
The New York-based group further said that European and other governments were ignoring human rights abuses in the conflict in Chechnya, which Russia characterizes as its contribution to the global war on terror.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0126-07.htm As for those "hundreds of thousands" of Iraqis Hussein "disappeared...well gee, bush's own website doesn't quite agree..."No details were available about the fate of the approximately 16,500 people reported “disappeared” in the last ten years, mainly ethnic Kurds and Shi’as but including the approximately 600 Kuwaitis reported to have been in Iraqi custody but unaccounted for since the 1991 Gulf War."
http://hrw.org/worldreport99/mideast/iraq.html Bush's own website agrees with the 16,500;
"In 1999, the UN Special Rapporteur stated that Iraq remains the country with the highest number of disappearances known to the UN: over 16,000."So we lost 3000 Americans because 16,000 Iraqis' whereabouts over 10 years was "unknown". Ok sure that makes a good use of AMerican lives. :eyes:
Saddam wouldn't let human rights groups into all prisons? Neither will bush;
Rights Groups Demand That US Open All Detention Facilities
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0510-01.htm Officer Says Army Tried to Curb Red Cross Visits to Prison in Iraq
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0519-04.htm War Crimes: Gen. Sanchez Hid Prisoner From Red Cross
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/061404B.shtml Saddam arbitrarily arrested innocent Iraqis? Tortured innocent Iraqis? So does bush;
70% to 90% of Iraq Prisoners 'Arrested by Mistake'
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0511-04.htm Detainees Suffer Terror at US Hands; Red Cross Says Torture Part of Deliberate Tactic
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm Saddam arrested and tortured children? So does bush;
Military Analyst Describes Abuse of 16-Year-Old in Iraq Prison
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0520-07.htm Iraq's child prisoners
http://www.sundayherald.com/43796 By the way, also read the current Human Rights report against AMERICA:
Amnesty Slams "Bankrupt" Vision of US in Damning Rights Report
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0526-02.htm In the absence of mass graves from the 1990s to the present,in the absence of ongoing or imminent atrocities, how can we say that we saved more Iraqis by going to war than if we hadn’t?
OK but "better late than never, we had to hold SH accountable for crimes from 20+ years ago!" Oh?Blair: March 2, 2003
"If military action proves necessary, it will be to uphold the authority of the UN and to ensure Saddam is disarmed of his weapons of mass destruction, not to overthrow him. It is why, detestable as I find his regime, he could stay in power if he disarms peacefully."http://www.sundayherald.com/print31827 Bush: March 5, 2003
"We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq. But if Saddam Hussein does not disarm peacefully, he will be disarmed by force,"http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Mar/03092003/nation_w/nation_w.asp "Three top Bush administration officials said today they would welcome exile for Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, and one, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, signaled the United States might allow Hussein to escape war crimes prosecution if he voluntarily steps down."http://www.why-war.com/news/2003/01/20/official.html "President George Bush last night gave Saddam Hussein and his sons 48 hours to give up power and go into exile."http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31547 Saddam can stay if he disarms, Powell sayshttp://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/21/1034561443683.htmlRice and Powell Say that a Disarmed Saddam Could Stay in Powerhttp://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/wwwboard/messages/2159.htmlAnd of course we won't mention the current Shia uprisings that the US forces are slaughtering in Iraq. Nor the fact that Hussein killed al Sadr's daddy. You know al Sadr jr; the Shia man the US govt has been trying to kill since their illegal invasion of Iraq.
Dick Cheney in April 1991, then Defense SecretaryIf you're going to go in and try to topple Saddam Hussein,you have to go to Baghdad. Once you've got Baghdad, it's not clear what you do with it. It's not clear what kind of government you would put in place of the one that's currently there now. Is it going to be a Shia regime, a Sunni regime or a Kurdish regime? Or one that tilts toward the Baathists, or one that tilts toward the Islamic fundamentalists?
How much credibility is that government going to have if it's set up by the United States military when it's there? How long does the United States military have to stay to protect the people that sign on for that government, and what happens to it once we leave?
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2072479 GHW Bush, 1998; "Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_H._W._BushAnd now?
WORSE NOW than under Saddam Hussein. FACT.http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=949408bush, his "crazies", and all rightwingnuts in general; stupidest MFers ever. Like them, it's that simple.