Carl Sheeler (RI) Back stabbed us - endorsed Chafee for Senate - BULL SHIT

[autorank]

My letter to Carl Sheeler after he informs me that in return for the great support he got here at DU,he's endorsing fucking Chafee

Carl:

Remember this Carl: You came on DU and asked for our support. I sent a donation and was glad to do so. You were such a solid ant-Bush candidate and seeking support among activist Democrats.

Now this endorsement of Chafee (R) over the Democrat Whitehouse... what a load of crap! When you came on Democratic Underground and talked tough, we thought you were anti-Bush.

But look at this piece of drivel. You endorse Chafee - who will vote in and for a Republican caucus to support a Republican President.

The very least you could have done was be upfront - you should have let us know that you just might endorse a Republican Senator who will get re-elected to support a Republican President.

Carl, thanks for nothing (other than showing your sympathies).

You said, "I say vote the person, not the party." Well BY SUPPORTING CHAFEE YOU ARE SUPPORTING "the person" NAMED BUSH.

Thanks for nothing and next time you want support don't show up at Democratic Underground.

(Signed by Autorank)

Carl Sheeler, who asked for and got our support, explains why he endorses a Republican for Senate who will support a Republican caucus and a Republican President. John Arbuthnot, author of "The Art of Political Lying" would have been most impressed.

Good afternoon (your excellency autorank),

Many of you saw or heard about my endorsement of Senator Chafee for Tuesday’s election. In the Marines and the business world, character counts for a lot. It’s why we’re supposed to protect whistle blowers. We learned about Abu Grahib because a young troop spoke up. The same thing happened with Enron. It’s why we traditionally honor people who, while in the minority against all odds and at great personal expense, stand up for the greater good. Many worship Jesus for this reason. Even organized labor started in the minority to fight for an almost non-existent middle class. But regardless the party or the cause, power can and does corrupt. We see it in Rhode Island and we see it in D.C.

I discussed this decision with folks like Democratic Party Vice Chair Joe DiLorenzo and former U.S. Senate candidate and Congressman Bob Weygand (D-RI). Our campaign was very public about withdrawing from Iraq well before it was popular. We called for replacing American troops with a Euro-Arab coalition. Chafee was the sole Republican senator to oppose the war and he shares my solution of bringing Middle East stability. That takes leadership and character. While I commend his current position, my former opponent shifted where he stood on Iraq. It strikes me as politically expedient. I disaffiliated from the Republican Party as protest to Bush’s irresponsible fiscal policy and War in Iraq. I asked our Democratic lead General Assembly to hold Bush accountable, which they were unwilling to do. It’s not lost on me that the DNC/DSCC tried to recruit Chafee; especially after he wrote in George H. W. Bush’s name for president in 2004.

I say vote the person, not the party. I may not agree with Mr. Chafee on all matters, but I trust him.

Thank you for making the effort to be informed during this election season. I’ll see you at the polls on Tuesday,

Be well,

Carl

Carl Sheeler

[skipos]

1. WOW! Sheeler and Lieberman don't like Democrats very much, eh? nt

[ronnykmarshall]

2. Thanks for letting us know about this.

It will be a cold day in hell before Carl is welcome around here again.

[autorank]

10. Really...what a load of B.S. We'll win and Whitehouse will kick butt n/t

[blm]

23. Looks to me like he was a set up from the beginning - a decoy.

Glad I didn't kiss the jerk's feet.

Although I do feel sorriest for those who were most taken in. This is a horrid realization about what depths GOP operatives will sink to in order to divide the Dem party.

Beware - - some of us older folks remember how they infiltrated every peace organization for the last 40 years in order to DIVIDE the Democratic vote. Including anti-war vet organizations.

[ronnykmarshall]

28. What's funny is I went to his old website ...

and there were messages from PROGRESSIVES that supported him in the primary.

I wonder how they feel now?

[blm]

38. Makes me want to kick his ass from here to eternity.

.

[WildEyedLiberal]

61. Me too

I always thought he sounded like a self-important ass... of course I said nothing because it's against the rules to attack an actual DUer (which he was) and because I knew I'd get flamed for supporting the "DINO" Whitehouse :puke: :puke: :puke:

I DO feel sorry for those who thought he was an actual grassroots candidate reaching out to the netroots progressives.

[Kingshakabobo]

3. What an asshole.....nt

[stevedeshazer]

4. That's really disappointing.

He threw us under the bus.

[autorank]

16. The only good news...we won't have Carl to kick around any more;)

[mom cat]

36. Thanks for giving him the boot where he deserves it!

[calimary]

37. Man. That's some betrayal, isn't it? I'm stunned! I hadn't heard this

until just now, but then again, I've been out of action for a few days. Holy Crap! I trusted him! He said all the good things. I mean, he was even pro-IMPEACHMENT. HOW, then, can one do a complete turnaround after being pro-IMPEACHMENT, and endorse republi-CON ANYTHING? The whole idea is supposed to be FEWER "r's", NOT MORE. NOT THE SAME NUMBER. NOT THE STATUS QUO - which will merely go back to their rubberstamps and ink pads, and all their justification about why they got a mandate to keep supporting bush. I'm stunned.

Frankly, the onus is on chafee. If he's REALLY independent and REALLY not a good fit with "his" party, he should switch. The hell with both of them. Let's get a TRUE Dem in there.

[JeffR]

5. Good God, that's appalling

I'd thought he was one of the good guys.

[autorank]

11. Good guysi as in "good fellas" ;) Well, you just do your best in evaluating

these people. Amazing...:hi:

[EFerrari]

6. Okay. He's now in the Permanent Record. Scum. n/t

[autorank]

12. I would never want to be in your "Permanent Record"

:hide:

:hi:

[EFerrari]

40. No, you wouldn't.

lol

:hi:

[babylonsister]

7. I share your anger, autorank. He came here begging for funds and

attention, got both, and then votes against our interests. I hope he doesn't show his face on DU anymore.

[autorank]

13. You've got it sister ... "begging" ... AMF Carl

[dogday]

8. I remember those posts

he was called out several times...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

9. Sheeler Is A Nobody. Who Cares Who He Endorses?

He's insignificant and his opinion means nothing to anybody. I couldn't care less who he's endorsed.

[autorank]

15. Neither does anybody else. But his case is instructive and people

here deserve to know. He'll be on the losing side. Whitehouse has done a great job. I'm impressed with his political skill in a first race against an icon.

[madokie]

22. and thanks for letting us know. I was wondering what had happened to him

back on the dark side where he deserves to be

[dogday]

52. Thing of it was that people were calling him

on this and he would lie over and over about it.... I remember it well...

[autorank]

68. Did you ever get an email from him asking you to write a speech for

him? I got one and figured it was to the distribution list. Just an odd detail. Maybe I'll send him one now, "I have to apologize for being such a two faced hypocrite and leading you all on by acking like getting rid of Bush was a the top of my agenda. In reality, getting something I wanted from this endorsement was right up there. I'm bad, send me to my room without desert and take my computer for a month."

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

14. I remember this guy posting here. Eff him. Glad I never gave him money.

[Old and In the Way]

17. This is really sad. I feel used.

I supported him here, but this revelation really disturbs me. Sorry Carl, your defense is pretty meaningless and rather lame...I used to vote the person and not the Party, but now I understand why that doesn't work in this environment. I'd have had more respect for you if you had been forthright with your intentions of supporting Chaffee over Whitehouse and announced it here. I guess you're really not much of a Democrat after all...

Thganks for posting this autorank. Always glad to see DINOs exposed.

[autorank]

18. Hey, I got suckered too..it was "the billboard" Remember that.

The big one that he wanted money for. I sent him a Grant and thought, heck that's pretty cool
stuff. Got a nice impeach Bush bumper sticker and didn't think much of it until I got this letter.

What part of Chafee is a Republican doesn't Carl get?

But betrayal is part of the political game. All we have to do is watch election night when
candidates "concede" our votes at the end of the night, almost always with thousands of votes
yet uncounted.

Good seeing you!

[fujiyama]

19. What a dick

I'm glad he got his ass handed to him by Whitehouse in the primaries.

Fortunately, he makes no difference as far as the race goes because he's so irrelevant.

[tkmorris]

20. I KNEW IT!

I KNEW this guy was full of crap. Now where are all the people who flamed me for asking questions of this guy?

Sheeler4U indeed.

[Canuckistanian]

21. He even tried to get me to volunteer for him

Until I pointed out that I was not even a citizen of his country.

Didn't seem to faze him.

[ima_sinnic]

24. thanks a lot for nothing! I remember how impressed I was by your

billboard. I think I may have even sent you a little money--I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT!
If Chafee's such a good guy, why doesn't he have balls enough to drop that party of con artists, greed-heads, and war profiteers and come over to the side of We The People?
So glad you did NOT get the nomination, putz, because it appears that you wouldn't have flinched in screwing over your constituents as you ran to kiss the butt of the Big Boys. I guess it was just not to be, eh? TOO FUCKING BAD!

[Earth_First]

25. I sent [e-mail] a link to this thread...

We'll see if he shows up.

[opihimoimoi]

66. You know he won't...he gives Marines a bad name

[stellanoir]

26. hmmmm

sometimes a change of opinion "is the mirror that flatters not."

It's indeed curious though. As are other things.

It's not going to amount to much. We have optical scanners here anyhoo.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

27. So to summarize: Did this guy run in the primaries for Senate?

Or was this some kind of elaborate ruse to raise money for the Republican Chafee? I don't follow R.I. that closely so I don't know the particulars.

I just remember seeing this guy's posts asking for dough.

[autorank]

71. He ran in the primary against Whitehouse.

Whitehouse is a decent guy with an impressive resume and family tree. He's also a Democrat, which given his status, is quite something. Sheeler was the firebrand, the total Democrat, impeach Bush guy. Then he does this. Chafee doesn't need money but this is something he obviously wanted.

And yes, Carl did raise money here, aggressively.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

29. I'm sorry to say he is one of candidates to whom I donated.

I was influenced by his being a member of the DU community and, of course, his billboard.

I do remember one post of his, in which he complained about spending a lot of money on a campaign event, and no one showed up.

Many DU'ers responded with helpful suggestions for how to be more fiscally judicious in running his campaign and more than a few told him to get over it and keep on keeping on.

He responded tepidly to a couple and then nothing.

I remember getting a sense from that post/thread that he didn't understand DU very well.

You know what they say, though, "Fool me once, etc.,etc." :-) MKJ

[SouthernBelle82]

30. Perhaps it was a ploy

To gain money. There sometime last year I believe was a candidate here who claimed to be a democrat and the local DNC got involved with his campaign and helped him raise money and get support and than a little while later he turned around and said he never said he was a democrat and was a republican. Sorry but even though Chafee is an okay ally where Iraq is concerned and the budget I wouldn't vote for him. I wouldn't trust him still.

[Hippo_Tron]

31. It's a shame because legitimate candidates using DU for fundraising now...

Will be less likely to be trusted. On the bright side Sheldon Whitehouse will make a great Senator.

[Bluebear]

32. A poster on his blog talks about "Caricature over politic"

"I agree with Sheeler! Caricature over politics any day. How many times do democrats vote straight democratic party line, not many if this where the case we would have more straight column votes and we don't see them.

So yes on caricature and trust. Let's face it Sheldon's record has more blanks than checks. What has he really accomplished as AG ? nothing!!

His own political motivation will in the end kill us here in RI, he will vote straight party line as he already said in public.

So ask yourselves, Do I want a US Senator who will vote straight party line regardless which party they are in?

Do I a US Senator who will blindly follow there party regardless what we say here in RI simply to get along, move up and be a good old boy?

Do I a US Senator who will look at the issues, listen to his constituents, weigh all sides, and then vote with his conscience and heart?

I say caricature, heart and conscience over party loyalty every day. This democrat will also vote for Chafee over Whitehouse and so will many of my democrtaic friends."

[WildEyedLiberal]

62. "I'm a CARICATURE voter!!!!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:hi:

[Roland99]

33. I KNEW from Day One he was a SHYSTER!!!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

34. Was this a ruse to raise money from DUers for Chafee? Or did he legitimately run

for the Dem nomination for Senate?

Any Rhode Islanders care to comment?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

64. He ran

And finished THIRD for all his ballyhoo. He was behind Whitehouse and a guy named Chris Young who's run for just about every office in the state and who's greatest contribution to RI politics is crashing the Chafee/Weygand debate 6 years ago and getting dragged out by the State Police and flipping over a table while screaming like Peter Finch from "Network" during the Providence mayoral debate four years ago.

[understandinglife]

35. What A J E R K ...

Never Forget: George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq .... and, now he willfully provided nuke-making instructions to terrorists -- if you doubt it, just check 'the google' ...

[Hubert Flottz]

39. He didn't fool us all!

Nobody's perfect...a good thing to remember, at all times!

[opihimoimoi]

41. The SOB kept evading questions just like a PUB does...I just knew it and let him know I thought of

as a DINO

[Hubert Flottz]

42. Chafee was a bushbot at least 80% of the time...

and most of that 80% was the times that really did the damage to our country!

[opihimoimoi]

43. Yup, its on the record. But, re Carl....he came here as a DEMOCRAT.

ASKED and recieved help from a number of peeps. Now that he lost...he supports a Republican?

Thats despicable.

[sandnsea]

45. He acted like a Green

I had enough conversations to figure that out. He either attacked Democrats like a Green would or skirted direct questions.

I bet he was a mole from the get-go and putting up an impeachment sign was to make the middle turn against extremist Democrats and help Chaffee. And I don't even know that Chaffee knew he was doing it.

That or the guy's just a flat out nut, which is always possible too I suppose.

[opihimoimoi]

48. Most likely a PUB OP or , as you say, ...a nut job...

[Hubert Flottz]

47. Not all Freepers are totally stupid, but they are all Ignorant!

If they STILL trust Bush and the flaky GOP leadership, they are hopelessly ignorant, either by choice, or by the lack of brain power.

I noticed that Carl always balled up like a big slimy slug, when you directed any serious light at his old line of bullshit.

[opihimoimoi]

49. He was of the Evasion Persuasion

An Arrogant PUB......if there ever was one....

[sandnsea]

44. Me either

I never did like or trust the guy - he was a real nitwit. I bet he thought impeachment signs would sway the muddlin' middle to vote against the Democrat. What a nasty individual.

[Ino]

46. "I disaffiliated from the Republican Party..."

Wait... Sheeler was a Repuke "turned" Dem?? Gone back to his roots now, has he?! I sent that fucker money!

[opihimoimoi]

50. He went from a Pub to an Indie and in this last primary, a DEMOCRAT

A chamelion...a pub lizard who slithers.

[NJ Democrats]

51. WTF!?

I can't beileve he would put up the billboard and get $$$ from us, then go around and endorse Chafee.

[quiet.american]

53. Why does he trust Chafee?

Chafee always makes dissenting noises and then goes ahead and votes with the worst and most criminal administration this country has ever seen. Sheeler trusts Chafee to do what?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

56. Um maybe because he was really a Republican, scamming Dems for our $?

[in_cog_ni_to]

54. THIS-ROYALLY-PISSES-ME-OFF!!!! I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY BACK!

I STILL have his damn bumper sticker on my car....for about 5 more minutes!:grr: G-d, I feel so used.

The NERVE of that man!!

[wiley]

55. Yeah, they didn't promise the guy anything.

The guy is so insignificant. Just another little ego gone sour. Let's not forget this guy,eh?

[NoPasaran]

57. Fuck him

I wouldn't pee in his ear if his brain was on fire.

[williesgirl]

58. He better hope he never stands for election. We will ALL donate to his primary opponent

fucking turncoat. recommended

[FogerRox]

59. I will make the case for Tombstoning

How can we allow a DUer to endorse a Republican candidate? Whats next.... DUers posting glowing dissertations about George Bush? Yes Chaffee is a mod repub..... But for me Bill CLinton is far enough to the right.

What Carl has done is to endorse a to the right of mainstream candidate.

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

[autorank]

69. Put my name on the endorsement list. I think that this qualifies. Great idea.

You, I have to watch you;) Too smart...hmmm...

[kimpossible]

60. Crap. And he had such a nice billboard

I donated to him too. Argh.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

63. Myrth York endorsed Chafee too

She's another one on the shit list as far as I'm concerned. I guess Sheldon really ticks his ex-opponents off.

But Sheeler is irrelevant. He couldn't get more votes than CHRIS YOUNG for god's sake.

[w4rma]

65. Major tactical (and, imho ethical) error from Carl Sheeler.

Oh well. Boneheaded choices like this are the reason he got slaughtered in the RI primary in the first place. He just hasn't been a very good politician. Many Democratic activists should learn from this experience and take that sort of thing into account.

Also, some Democratic activists need to learn to watch out for politicians who avoid directly answering questions. There is always a reason that they are being evasive.

[Stand and Fight]

67. I had a feeling this guy was full of it...

I had considered doing an article on him, but my bullshit meter started to go off big time. Glad that I listened to my intuition and avoided this guy like the plague. Nonetheless, it is still disappointing.

[WI_DEM]

70. So his endorsement of Chafee will influence, what 15 voters?

and half of them will end up backing Whitehouse anyway.