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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:10 AM
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Today: GOP issues Propaganda : "Beware of Exit Polls'
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 09:19 AM by Laura PackYourBags
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Tuesday, November 07, 2006
Beware Of Exit Polls

BEWARE OF EXIT POLLS


Biased And Inaccurate Predictions Have Led To Poor
GOP Exit Poll Showings In Past Three National Elections
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FAST FACTS ON EXIT POLLING

Election Experts Believe Exit Polls Give An Edge And Sway Towards Democrat Candidates.


National Exit Polls Will Skew In Favor Of Democrats This Year, Due To Large Numbers Of Uncontested Democrat Seats In The House Of Representatives.


Early Exit Polling Returns In 2004 Were Widely Inaccurate, Declaring Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) To Be The Next President Of The United States And Republicans Barely Holding A One Seat Majority In The U.S. Senate.


In The 2002 Midterm Elections, Exit Polling Produced Unusable Data.


In 2000, Exit Polling Malfunctioned And Incorrectly Projecting Vice President Al Gore As The Winner Of The Crucial Battleground State Of Florida.
EXIT POLLS TRADITIONALLY HAVE A DEMOCRAT BIAS

Exit Polls Give Democrats An Edge:

Exit Polling Always Tends To "Give An Edge To Democratic Candidates." President of Mitofsky International, Warren Mitofsky: "Mitofsky said exit polls have always tended to give an edge to Democratic candidates ..." (John Cook, "Early Exit Polls Overstated Kerry Results, Media Group Says," Chicago Tribune, 1/20/05)

" Said That For Reasons That Remain Unclear, Democratic Voters Are More Likely Than Republicans To Agree To Interview Requests From Pollsters." (John Cook, "Early Exit Polls Overstated Kerry Results, Media Group Says," Chicago Tribune, 1/20/05)
Democrats More Likely Than Republicans To Respond To Exit Polls:

October 2006 Fox News/Opinion Dynamics Poll Found Democrats Were More Likely To Respond To Exit Polls Than Republicans.

72% Of Democrats Responded They Were Very Or Somewhat Likely To Fill Out Questionnaire, Compared To 66% Of Republicans. (Fox News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, 10/26/06)


44% Of Democrats Claimed They Were Very Likely To Fill Out Exit Poll Survey, Compared To 35% Of Republicans. (Fox News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, 10/26/06)


Democrats (37%-10%) And Republicans (25%-18%) Agreed That Democrats Are More Likely To Share How They Voted With A Pollster They Do Not Know. (Fox News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, 10/26/06)
In 2006, Exit Polls Skew In Favor Of Democrats, Due To Large Numbers Of Uncontested Seats In The House:

In 2006, There Are Over 40 Uncontested Democrat Seats And 10 Uncontested GOP Seats, Which Will Overstate National Democrat House Vote In Exit Polling. (National Journal Website, www.nationaljournal.com, Accessed 11/6/06)

In 2004, There Were 39 Uncontested Republican Seats, Compared To 30 Uncontested Democrat Seats. (National Journal Website, www.nationaljournal.com, Accessed 11/6/06)


In 2002, There Were 45 Uncontested Republican Seats, Compared To 36 Uncontested Democrat Seats. (National Journal Website, www.nationaljournal.com, Accessed 11/6/06)
IN 2004, EXIT POLLING PREDICTED OVERWHELMING DEMOCRAT VICTORIES

In 2004, Exit Polls "Got All Of The Bush States Wrong" - Predictions Were "Most Skewed" Since Exit Polling Began:

Exit Polls Showed Across-The-Board Failure. "he networks did get the exit polls wrong. Not just one of them. They got all of the Bush states wrong." (Dick Morris, "Those Faulty Exit Polls Were Sabotage," The Hill, 11/4/04)

"It Was Dej? Vu All Over Again With Major Embarrassment For Exit Pollsters Since It Was Clear That They Way Underestimated Bush's Support In States Like Virginia That The President Won Handily Once The Real Vote Came In." (Deborah Orin et. al., "Voters Choose Double Dubya," New York Post, 11/3/04)
USA Today: "In fact, the 2004 numbers were the most skewed since joint exit polling began in the 1980s." (Editorial, "Exit Polls' Cloud Crystal Ball," USA Today, 1/20/05)

The Plain Dealer: "Add in poor weather, data programming errors and other technical glitches, and the end product, calculated to give major news operations an inside glimmer as to which way the vote was going, instead produced the most inaccurate information in the past five presidential elections." (Editorial, "The Pollsters Were Pole-Axed," The Plain Dealer, 1/23/05)


San Francisco Chronicle: "If exit polls have a role at all, they need to be staged carefully and handled with caution. Along with improved methods, the report suggested that no numbers be released to news organizations until near the end of Election Day. That's the least poll-takers can do." (Editorial, "Exit-Poll Errors," San Francisco Chronicle, 1/21/05)
In 2004, National Election Pool (NEP) Incorrectly Projected Victories For Sen. John Kerry (D-MA):

"ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, Fox, And NBC ... Created The National Election Pool To Provide Tabulated Vote Counts And Exit Poll Surveys ... These Six Major News Organization, In A Joint Decision ... Appointed Edison Media Research And Mitofsky International As The Sole Provider Of Exit Polls ..." (Exit-Poll.net Website, http://www.exit-poll.net/, Accessed 10/24/06)

"In The 32 States With Exit Poll Estimates For Both A Presidential Race And A Senate Race The Average Error On The Difference Between The Top Two Candidates Was 5.0 Points In The Democratic Direction For President And 3.6 Points In The Democratic Direction For Senate." (Edison Media Research And Mitofsky International, "Evaluation Of Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 For The National Election Pool," 1/19/05, p. 20)

Iowa: NEP Projected Sen. Kerry Winning By 1% - President Bush Carried Iowa By .7%;

Nevada: NEP Projected Sen. Kerry Winning By 1.4% - President Bush Carried Nevada By 2.6%;

New Mexico: NEP Projected Sen. Kerry Winning By 4.2%- President Bush Carried New Mexico By .8%;

Ohio: NEP Projected Sen. Kerry Winning By 6.5% - President Bush Carried By 2.1%;

Virginia: NEP Projected Sen. Kerry Winning By 0.5% - President Bush Carried Virginia By 8.2%. (Edison Media Research And Mitofsky International, "Evaluation Of Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 For The National Election Pool," 1/19/05, p. 21-22)
NEP's Exit Poll Projections Underestimated President Bush's Support In Several Key States:

Minnesota: NEP Projected Sen. Kerry Winning By 14.3% -- Sen. Kerry Won By 3.5%;

New Hampshire: NEP Projected Sen. Kerry Winning By 15% -- Sen. Kerry Won By 1.4%;

North Carolina: NEP Projected President Bush Winning By 3.6% -- President Bush Won By 12.4%;

Pennsylvania: NEP Projected Sen. Kerry Winning By 13.8% -- Sen. Kerry Won By 2.3%;

Wisconsin: NEP Projected Sen. Kerry Winning By 5.7% -- Sen. Kerry Won By .4%. (Edison Media Research And Mitofsky International, "Evaluation Of Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 For The National Election Pool," 1/19/05, p. 21-22)
NEP's Exit Poll Projections Had Republicans Winning Only 51 Senate Seats Instead Of 55 Seats They Hold Now:

Alaska: NEP Projected Former Gov. Tony Knowles (D-AK) Senate Victory; Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) Won;

Florida: NEP Projected Dem Betty Castor (D-FL) Senate Victory; Sen. Mel Martinez (R-FL) Won;

Kentucky: NEP Projected Dem Dan Mongiardo (D-KY) Senate Victory; Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KY) Won;

North Carolina: NEP Projected Dem Erskine Bowles (D-NC) Senate Victory; Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) Won. (Edison Media Research And Mitofsky International, "Evaluation Of Edison/Mitofsky Election System 2004 For The National Election Pool," 1/19/05, p. 23)
Political Professionals Agree 2004 Highlighted Exit Polling's Failures:

Zogby International's John Zogby: "I'm not sure that I will ever believe an exit poll again ... How could they have been so way off? They were worse than virtually every pre-election poll." (John Cook, "Early Exit Polls Overstated Kerry Results, Media Group Says," Chicago Tribune, 1/20/05)

Zogby: "The sum total of what we got today is enough to suggest that there should never be exit polls again." (Donald Lambro, "Polling Firms Blame Youth, Leaks For Errors," The Washington Times, 1/20/05)
The Washington Post's Director Of Polling Richard Morin: "he 2004 election may have finally stripped exit polling of its reputation as the crown jewel of political surveys, somehow immune from the myriad problems that affect telephone polls and other types of public opinion surveys." (Richard Morin, Op-Ed, "Surveying The Damage," The Washington Post, 11/21/04)

Morin: "Instead, this face-to-face, catch-the-voters-on-the-way-out poll has been revealed for what it is: just another poll, with all the problems and imperfections endemic to the craft." (Richard Morin, Op-Ed, "Surveying The Damage," The Washington Post, 11/21/04)
President Of Mason-Dixon Polling Firm Brad Corker: "Exit Polls Are Often Wrong". "rad Coker, president of the Mason-Dixon polling firm that called Bush's 2.5-percentage-point win in Ohio practically right on the nose for The Plain Dealer, says ... exit polls are often wrong." (Ted Diadiun, "Rest Assured, We Checked Out Election 2004 Thoroughly," The Plain Dealer, 6/18/06)

"Herb Asher, An Ohio State University Political Scientist, Said Election Results Don't Necessarily Reflect Exit Polls." (John Nolan, "Forty Voters Want November Election Results Thrown Out," The Associated Press, 12/14/04)

Asher: "We all know that exit polls can be wrong. Exit polls are basically a sample." (John Nolan, "Forty Voters Want November Election Results Thrown Out," The Associated Press, 12/14/04)
CNN's Bill Schneider: "The lesson here is put not your faith in exit polls ... particularly if the exit poll is close ... Exit polls are designed for analysis. ... They are not very good ..." (William Douglas, "Turnout: The Early Exit Polls Mostly Wrong," Detroit Free Press, 11/4/04)

Then-CNN Anchor Judy Woodruff: "People want to jump on (exit polls) because they are the first little sliver, little shred of evidence ... It's dangerous to seize on those numbers and assume anything - and yet that's what happened." (Michelle Mittelstadt, "Exit Poll Group Assailed For Erroneous Early Results," The Dallas Morning News, 11/4/04)

Pollster Andrew Kohut: "oing on the fly has led us astray." (Michelle Mittelstadt, "Exit Poll Group Assailed For Erroneous Early Results," The Dallas Morning News, 11/4/04)

EXIT POLLS WERE ALSO WIDELY INACCURATE IN 2002 AND 2000 ELECTIONS

FLASHBACK FACT: In 2002 Midterms, Exit Polls Were Scrapped Due To Inaccuracy:

VNS Consortium Scrapped 2002 National Exit Polls Because It Could Not Guarantee Accuracy. "Voter News Service abandoned its state and national exit poll plans for Election Night, saying it could not guarantee the accuracy of the analysis which media organizations use to help explain why people voted as they did." ("VNS Abandons National Exit Poll Operation, A Setback For Revamped Elections System," The Associated Press, 11/6/02)

"The Exit Poll Failure Was A Major Setback For VNS - A Consortium Consisting Of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox And The AP. VNS Had Completely Rebuilt Its System In Response To The 2000 Election, When Television Networks Twice Used Its Information To Make Wrong Calls In The Decisive Florida Vote For The Presidential Election." ("VNS Abandons National Exit Poll Operation, A Setback For Revamped Elections System," The Associated Press, 11/6/02)


Zogby International's John Zogby: "The early <2002> exit-poll data was awful. ... And it came with the caveat that it was unreliable. Can you imagine a doctor saying that about a diagnosis? What a mess!" (Beth Gillin, "Media Organizations Discuss What Went Wrong With Exit-Poll Service," The Philadelphia Inquirer, 11/7/02)
FLASHBACK FACT: In 2000 Presidential Campaign, Exit Polls Were Badly Flawed In Critical State Of Florida:

In 2000, Exit Polls Were Badly Flawed In Critical State Of Florida. "ome bad assumptions led Voter News Service, the television network exit poll consortium, to make and then retract two dramatic election-night predictions on the winner of the presidential race in Florida." (Richard Morin and Claudia Deane, "Why The Fla. Exit Polls Were Wrong," The Washington Post, 11/8/00)

Networks Blame Incorrect Projections On Erroneous Exit Polling. " concluded the problems were largely due to bad information supplied by Voter News Service, an exit poll consortium run by television networks and Associated Press." (Elizabeth Jensen and Megan Garvey, "TV Election Gaffes Called Statistical, Not Political," Los Angeles Times, 2/9/01)


CBS' Director Of Surveys Kathy Frankovic: "In the Tampa area, the exit poll results from the precincts turned out to be more Democratic than the vote turned out to be." (Richard Morin and Claudia Deane, "Why The Fla. Exit Polls Were Wrong," The Washington Post, 11/8/00)
Experts Lament Exit Polling's "Poor" Predictions In 2000. "Paul Biemer, a statistician hired to review the VNS methodology, reported that 49 percent of those surveyed leaving the polls declined to respond. In the parlance of his trade, Mr. Biemer said 'a non-response rate of this magnitude is a potential source of statistical bias in the model projections ...' In other words, exit polls are poor predictors." (Jules Witcover, Op-Ed, "Voters Don't Need Instant TV Results," The Sun, 2/16/01)

Faulty Media Reports In 2000 Impacted Florida Panhandle And Congressional Races:

"About 7:50 P.M. EST Tuesday, Less Than An Hour After Most Of The Polls Closed In Florida, Both CBS And NBC Declared Mr. Gore The Winner In That State, A Decision Based Largely Upon Exit Polls Conducted By Voter News Service. Fox News, CNN And ABC Followed Within Minutes." (John Godfrey, "Tauzin Plans Hearings On Gaffe," The Washington Times, 11/10/00)

"A Survey Conducted By John McLaughlin & Associates Found That The Early And Incorrect News Network Announcements Declaring Al Gore The Winner In Florida May Have Influenced Thousands Of Last-Minute Voters In The Central Time Zone Section Of The Florida Panhandle Not To Vote. The Premature Announcement Discouraged Many Registered Voters Who, According To Survey's Results, Would Have Voted Like The Rest Of Their Neighbors - Overwhelmingly For George W. Bush." (McLaughlin & Associates Website, "Panhandle Poll Summary," www.mclaughlinonline.com, Press Release, 11/20/00)





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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:11 AM
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1. Does the GOPher Party not realize that the news media isn't going
to be releasing the Exit Polling data?

Or, are they again, out of touch?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:17 AM
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6. Probably priming themselves for what to say tomorrow when
the candidate miraculously wins after a 10 point deficit in the exit poll.

Seriously, this piece of propaganda is, in my mind, is a very ominous sign. Think about it, if you had absolutely nothing to hide, why would you issue something like this??? But, if you knew that the system was rigged for you, you also know that the exit polls will be wrong.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:27 AM
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11. You're right.
This is ominous. Hopefully it's just an attempt to keep Repub spirits up to GOVT, but it could be preparation for something more nefarious. :scared:
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:13 AM
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2. Setting the table so they can help themselves to another election.
Hope they like fire and pitchforks.
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 10:06 AM
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19. Yep. No other reason to put out a statement like that.
The idea that exit polls favor Democrats is hilarious. OTOH, their logic sure is airtight, eh? Exit polls are notoriously inaccurate; they showed Kerry winning, but they were wrong! They've been wrong ever since George Bush ran for President!

Never mind that a full recount of Florida showed that Gore actually won by thousands of votes.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:14 AM
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3.  when my Mother-in-Law started denying something that hadn't happened yet i knew i was in trouble
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:17 AM
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8. What do you mean?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:26 AM
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10. she was an F'n manipulator and control freak, she set people up to fall, and destroyed my .
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 09:27 AM by sam sarrha
marriage, she devastated peoples lives, thinking she knew best, F'n 2 faced back stabber. i got drunk and shit on her grave the night she was buried. may she burn it hell.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:53 AM
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15. ...
:hug:

She can't hurt anyone anymore.

The best revenge is a life well lived (or something like that).
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:15 AM
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4. there aren't any exit polls where I voted
No point really since the neighborhood is 95% Democrat
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:17 AM
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5. because the GOP will rig the vote to reder the exit polls useless
make no mistake about it, it'll be a knife fight in many races throughout the country, swamp the polls don't take anything for granted. The more we swamp them, the more they have to cheat, they more they have to cheat the easier it is to catch them. And without a doubt they'll screw with some Democratic candidates to tag them with the cheating label.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:17 AM
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7. those bastards have no shame
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:20 AM
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9. Despite my optimism, I have a nagging feeling that..
they'll be up to no good today. We know they stole 2000 - today will go a long way in determining what happened in 2004. If evidence is found, our Democrats should not concede. And we should file lawsuits early.
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haymark Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:40 AM
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12. Go vote
Take someone with you. Do your part.
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roguenkatz Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:47 AM
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13. Aren't Exit Polls
what they pointed to when they screamed fraud about Chavez being elected? Isn't this being a little disingenuous when we are supposedly more technologically advanced and our methods more scientific?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:58 AM
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17. and the Ukraine
remember Exit polls are only wrong when they favour Dems. Fugg the GOP!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:51 AM
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14. idiots, they are only making exit polls worse for their cause
Discouraging their base from taking part in exit polls will only make larger #s for Dems and more ammo for Dems to make a claim about fraud.

Morons.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:54 AM
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16. Dig it! - "bad" exit polling only began since Bushco was installed...!
but never before.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 11:02 AM
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20. Also, he was the only one that "won" when they were wrong.
Kerry never benefitted from the erroneous polls. This single fact is the most damning, imho.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 09:59 AM
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18. IOW - "Beware of the Truth"
That burns me up when people are convinced the "problems" - like people thinking Gore won/Kerry won - are due to "exit polls" instead of the exit polls telling the truth.

I'm afraid that they will find a way to screw up the exit polls - so we never will know who people intended to vote for.
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