Heartwarming! "Christians must vote today OR ELSE!"

[Bluebear]

Contact Dane Rose, National Clergy Council, 202-546-8329, ext 106.

WASHINGTON, Nov.7 /Christian Newswire/-- Rev. Rob Schenck, president of the National Clergy Council, representing church leaders from all Christian traditions including Catholic, Evangelical, Orthodox and conservative Protestant, released this statement today as polls opened across the country:

"This is a critically important day for Christians in America. If Christians don't show up to vote today, babies will continue to die in abortions, fewer children will grow up in married homes, many more will grow up with two daddies or two mommies, God will ultimately be purged from the public square. In short, America will soon look like godless Europe. It's that simple.

"Jesus said Christians are salt and light, preserving against moral and spiritual decay and lighting the way for our civilization in the way of the One True God. But it comes down to whether we vote or not today. If we do vote, God will use us to benefit this country's culture and future. If we don't vote, we deserve what we get, and our children, grand children and great grandchildren will sadly pay the price.

"I am praying God's people will respond and do their duty to God, to their families and to our country. God help us."

http://www.earnedmedia.org/ncc1107.htm

[Sapere aude]

1. I kind of like godless Europe, much more mature outlook on life in general.

I like godless Europe a lot more then I like immature god fearing America

[Union Thug]

I was thinking the same thing. Give me godless europe over

fundie fantasy world ANY DAY!

[codjh9]

16. Godless Europe is better in many ways

As Kurt Vonnegut said (I may not have the quote quite right) - 'free education, healthcare and retirement - who would want THAT?'. And may I add 'freedom from millions of fundamentalist lunatics, one of whom is my brainwashed BROTHER!!!' God help us, indeed!

[NanceGreggs]

2. That's right, good Christians ...

... get out there and vote for the party of corruption, greed, and torture! You don't want to wake up tomorrow morning and find out that all of those bribe-takers and pedophiles have been kicked out of office ..

[nickinSTL]

3. "America will soon look like godless Europe"

one can only hope.

[malaise]

6. Bingo n/t

[donco6]

55. No kidding. eom

[GrantDem]

4. These people are something else...

"many more will grow up with two daddies or two mommies" :eyes:


My daughter has two mommies and two daddies... the more people that love a child the better.

[Kutjara]

5. "America will soon look like godless Europe."

Gee, that would be terrible, wouldn't it? All those luminous piazzas and intimate sidewalk cafes, misty moorlands and cozy pubs, romantic canal paths, windmills, tulips, primeval forests, soaring mountains, majestic beaches, rich culture, long history, art, music, fashion, literature, castles, public healthcare, fair elections, low crime rates.

The horror. The horror.

[Bluebear]

10. You just gave me a mini-vacation! :)

[codjh9]

23. And much more of a 'we're all in this together' society

Read 'The European Dream', by Jeremy Rifkin

[unpossibles]

28. ya know, Europe had to go through the dark ages as well

before it got to where it is. America is relatively young, like a teenager that thinks it knows everything to know and refuses to fess up to wrecking dad's car.

[codjh9]

40. Ha ha!

I like that analogy! I've long thought of the US as your 16-year-old son who's smart but makes so-so grades and is frequently high. High potential, but not living up to it, in other words.

[OnionPatch]

58. Really, and

we wouldn't want all the suffering and oppression they have over there, would we? :sarcasm:

[rusty charly]

7. Do these people think christianity

originated in North America? Can someone please inform them: Christianity IS European.

[Bluebear]

"Can someone please inform them: Christianity IS European."

Exactly! Unfortunately they have all these hundreds-of-years old cathedrals, not 10 year old money machines where people close their eyes and wave their arms around hysterically.

[unpossibles]

53. well, technically Christianity is Middle Eastern

but Europe is Christian mostly.

[Jackpine Radical]

17. Then howzcum Jeezus wrote the Bible in Inglish?

[louis-t]

8. "or God will kill you dead."

[w13rd0]

9. OH NO! NOT THE GAY!

"many more will grow up with two daddies or two mommies" - yes, your great grandchildren WILL pay the price if you thoughtless knuckledragging superstitious neaderthals manage to grant this administration another 2+ years of absolute power and a rubber stamping congress. That's why WE are just as motivated to vote, because despite the fact that we don't like YOU, we don't want your great grandchildren to suffer just because you people are ignorant bigots.

[earth mom]

11. Heartwarming?! WTF?! More like Bone Chilling!

:puke:

[Bluebear]

13. The sarcasm was implied LOL

[earth mom]

35. Okay, I hear ya...

though I like to use the smilies so there is no mistaking my intention. But to each his own. :hi:

[BOSSHOG]

12. You'll be raped by homosexuals

Sodomy run rampant, naked gay men running through your streets, handsome, lithesome naked men coming to my door, aaarggghhh, oh christ, oh christ, oooohhhhh! must. vote. republican. or else, aaaahhhhh! must. vote. aaaaahhhh. must ....

God those conservative bastards are sick motherfuckers.

[Kutjara]

21. No homosexual has ever expressed the slightest desire...

...to rape me. I feel so fat and ugly. <sniff>

[PreacherCasey]

14. argh!

:argh:

[tenshi816]

15. I don't know where the get they idea that Europe is godless.

It isn't. People just have the good sense to keep religion out of government and separate from their working lives, and don't tend to push their personal religious agendas down other people's throats.

Edit: typo

[rusty charly]

27. in germany, you have to

legally disconnect yourself from your religion. it's actually more integrated than here.

"The Basic Law (Constitution) provides for freedom of religion, and the Government generally respects this right in practice; however, discrimination against and unequal treatment of some minority religious groups remain an issue, in part because of the legal/constitutional structure of church-state relations. The structure for managing church-state relations, established in 1949, is gradually adapting to the country's increasingly diverse religious make-up.

Religious organizations are not required to register with the state. However, most religious organizations are registered and treated as nonprofit associations, which enjoy a degree of tax-exempt status. State-level authorities review registration submissions and routinely grant tax-exempt status. Their decisions are subject to judicial review. Organizations must provide evidence, through their own statutes, that they are a religion and thus contribute socially, spiritually, or materially to society. Local tax offices occasionally conduct reviews of tax-exempt status.

Religion and state are separate, although a special partnership exists between the State and those religious communities that have the status of a "corporation under public law." Any religious organization may request that it be granted "public law corporation" status, which among other things entitles it to name prison, hospital and military chaplains and to levy a tithe (averaging nine percent of income tax) on its members that the State collects. (Public law corporations pay a fee to the Government for this tax service; not all avail themselves of it.) The decision to grant public law corporation status is made at the state level based on certain requirements, including an assurance of permanence, the size of the organization, and an indication that the organization is not hostile to the constitutional order or fundamental rights. Religious groups that have been granted public law corporation status, in addition to the Evangelical and Catholic Churches, include the Jewish community, Mormons, Seventh-day Adventists, Mennonites, Baptists, Methodists, Christian Scientists, and the Salvation Army.

The Muslim communities remain an exception. To date, no state has granted any Muslim group public law corporation status, in large measure because of intra-Muslim disputes over which organization can be considered representative of the community as a whole. The federal Government is in principle in favor of granting public law corporation status to Muslim communities but has urged Muslims to agree upon a single organization with which the state and federal governments could deal. "

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51554.htm

[bertha katzenengel]

18. Poor guy doesn't realize that God (as in the bible) is Love.

Not vengeance on this country if things don't go their way in the election.

Poor guy doesn't realize that many of those he thinks are "godless" are followers of Christ.

For them there is only one way - the literal way.

Sad.

[truedelphi]

33. It's not his fault if he doesn't realize God is Love

The bumpersticker now reads "Faith Hope and victory!"

[ceile]

19. "....Godless Europe"

Well, first, one could only hope.
Second: decent wages, most education paid for, most healthcare paid for, retirement that you can live on, culture more than 200 years old, true multiculturalism.....
OH THE HORROR!!!!!!!!!

[ourvoicescount]

20. Can we REMOVE their tax exempt status NOW please? Thank you...

[krabigirl]

22. I'd love it if America was more like Godless Europe

I can't believe they even use that to motivate voters. Yeah, Godless Europe, where there is universal healthcare, social safety nets for the poor, and unions to protect hard-working people. What a horrible place...lol.

[newyawker99]

57. Hi krabigirl!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[truedelphi]

24. Godless Europe? Did they remove the cathedrals?

The Pope in the Vatican? The monasteries?

If this is true, it's been rather unreported!!

[denverbill]

31. Fundies don't consider Catholics to be 'Christians'. n/t

[truedelphi]

41. Oops, I forgot that. (I lump all dogmatic religious types

Together - and Gawd, growing up Catholic -were they ever stict on the dress code.
My mom wantecd my dad to get her a mink coat so she could be part of the Sunday fashion parade

"Faith, hope and a designer wardrobe"

[knitter4democracy]

25. We're planning on it as soon as Hubby gets home.

:)

I'm surprised he included us Eastern Orthodox, since most of us are Dems and our church isn't strictly pro-life. Hmmm.

[LibertyLover]

26. They say that America will look like godless Europe

like it's a bad thing. Would that we were more like godless Europe - where I'll be on vacation for 2 weeks in about a month - yeee haah!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

29. jesus said christians are salt and light?

[Left Is Write]

30. Oh, good. I'm a Christian, and I voted today.

[twilight_sailing]

32. That's untrue, Rev.

"our children, grand children and great grandchildren will sadly pay the price"


Your progeny will always be free to practice their own religion in America, ESPECIALLY if the liberals are in charge.

No one wants to take your freedom of religion away, except maybe the Republicans who seem to have their own special brand of Christianity.

Liberals are all for you, Rev.
Be free! Live your life! Believe any damn thing you want!

You can even believe that you can turn this country into some sort of theocracy, if you like. Go ahead. But it ain't gonna happen. Why? Because we are ALL free.

[Hubert Flottz]

34. They have all of THE MATH and THE METH, but none of the

smarts!

[lectrobyte]

42. I heard about the meth, what math, though, are you thinking of? nt

[Hubert Flottz]

46. Karl has THE Math he says and he can swear that the GOP will

win.

[Richard Steele]

50. They DO have that whole "3 = 1" thing goin' on, y'know.

:rofl:

[davhill]

36. Oh those poor babies

Born into a gay marriage.

[bikebloke]

37. Godless Europe

All those poor, poor preachers going without hookers and drugs, paid for by the flock.

Thirty years ago, I saw Europe as a better place. And I still see it that way. A pity emigration is a lot easier said than done, or I'd be there.

[Aristus]

38. Okay chill out, guy. I DID vote. I'm a Christian,

and I voted for every Democrat on the ballot! Take THAT!

[truthisfreedom]

39. "kittens will die, grandmas will jump off cliffs, pigs will fly..."

[sinkingfeeling]

43. Yep, their 'children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren will sadly

pay the price' of Bush's Folly, about $2 trillion and/or with their lives.

[lectrobyte]

44. I don't get the part about children in married homes... Seems like

the stats I saw on divorce had it on the increase since the 1980's, oddly enough, about the time of the rise of the Religious Right, and higher in red states than blue ones.

[ET Awful]

45. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.

Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes...

The dead rising from the grave.


Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.


:P

[Iris]

47. How can a government reduce the number of children growing up

in single-parent homes AND abolish abortion at the same time?

And,hey, I'm CATHOLIC and I vote PRO-CHOICE!!!!!

[Dervill Crow]

48. God told me to vote Democrat.

So did the Goddess.

[heidler1]

49. IMO. The phony religious leaders like Haggard are the real hope

for getting the US past this fantasy world that Bush has built. Bush being discredited is, in the long run, more important in regard to the US moving toward reality than the Democrats winning this election. I'm sure that Bush will continue to do stupid stuff and we Democrats will keep pounding on him. However, I do believe that we should avoid being too blood thirsty even though Bush deserves it. To me the overkill mode of the Republicans is a big part of how they got in trouble. It started with their impeachment of Clinton and Iraq is more of the same. We should not arm them with sympathy.

[ronnykmarshall]

51. My Christian Aunt voted ...

A straight Democratic ticket!

[nemo137]

54. as did my Christian Mama

and my Christian Grandmother, and me.

[July]

52. Oh, the irony!

"God help us" -- damn right!

"we deserve what we get" -- oh, I hope so!

[enki23]

56. "Jesus said Christians are salt and light..."

They raise your blood pressure, and... give you skin cancer?