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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:52 PM
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It Can Happen Here
"The articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the constitution are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights to personal freedom , freedom of speech, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of letters, mail, telegraphs and telephones, order searches and confiscations and restrict property, even if this is not otherwise provided for by present law."

That chilling passage is not the latest pearl of wisdom from Alberto Gonzalez but the Reichstag Fire Decree from February of 1933 that followed Nazi Germany's version of 9-11. The German parliament, or Bundestag, went on to pass the Enabling Act by which their powers to make laws were ceded to the Chancellor, later to become the Fuehrer. This was all done in the name of protecting the people.

President Bush is allowing Congress to continue make laws but believes that he has been given the sole authority to ignore those laws. Once his voting bloc is firmly established in the Supreme Court he will also have the power to interpret the laws that the rest of us will have to obey. The Constitution of the United will then be as defunct as the German Constitution was in 1933. Our Congress will have been as complicit in this aberration of history as was the German Bundestag in 1933.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:54 PM
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1. shhhhhh! buscho is not like the nazis hahahahaha nt
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:59 PM
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2. It's chilling
because yes it can happen here. Many people seem to think, oh we'd never let it get that far. Wanna bet. The rise of the Nazi's was slow and insidious. It's like the parable of the frogs.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:00 PM
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3. Yep, I posted on another forum....
that the tragedy of Alito is that the chimp and his administration will get away clean with all their crimes. Any conviction will be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court where it will be overturned. That is if they haven't been pardoned by then.

Once respect for the rule of law goes, all bets are off. And these asshole are flaunting their disdain for our laws. What's good for them is good for us. :evilgrin:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:02 PM
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4. WTF is happening to our country? n/t
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:24 PM
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5. A rose by any other name..
I listened to part of a speech by Howard Zinn on University of California TV this week. He was saying that fascism doesn't suddenly arrive
on the scene dressed up like Hitler. Fascism exists all the time everywhere, and takes different forms depending on the times and the society.
It was a good reminder to stop arguing about whether we live in a fascist state. It doesn't matter what you call it, it's already here and trying to take over.

Americans seem to be waiting for Nazi flags to be displayed.

From Wikipedia:

Fascism is typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social, cultural, and economic. The fascist state regulates and controls (as opposed to nationalizing) the means of production. Fascism exalts the nation, state, or race as superior to the individuals, institutions, or groups composing it. Fascism uses explicit populist rhetoric; calls for a heroic mass effort to restore past greatness; and demands loyalty to a single leader, often to the point of a cult of personality.

Today there are no major self-described fascist parties or organizations anywhere in the world.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 08:22 PM
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9. Good reply
We must remember, that everything is present always, to a degree.
And it is a balance of everything that all things survive.
But without being able to provide oversight, Keeping the balance, a necessary fact for our civilization in the hands of our intellect, It's like a runaway infection, it will consume every thing else until it dies of starvation.
This is a simple law anyone can understand.
Except those in the white house, or more accurately, the Mad House.
Maybe their not human after all.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 08:28 PM
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10. Excellent post dooner.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:34 AM
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16. Mussolini said fascism was really "corporatism"
the combination of state and corporate power.
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upsidedownaussie Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:24 PM
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6. comic from this weeks nation:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 01:05 AM
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15. Just read that issue today--chilling comic
Chilling because it is happening again.

Welcome to DU BTW. :hi:
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:56 PM
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7. what you are saying is not allowed
It's outrageous, and you shoud be ashamed to even post such a thing. Outrageous I say. :sarcasm:
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 04:07 PM
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8. God bless the FightingIrish !
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 04:09 PM by LibertyorDeath
K&R

It can and is happening.

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death." -- Adolf Hitler

We must all Fight it tell your friends tell your neighbors tell strangers in the street.

WE Must Fight IT!

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 08:39 PM
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11. Well it wasn't too subtle when they called it "HOMELAND Security Act"
:wtf: WHOTHEFUCK HAS EVER EVER EVER CALLED THE U.S. "HOMELAND"? :wtf:
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 09:09 PM
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12. Finally, somebody says what I've been thinking ever since first hearing
that term. That's exactly what it sounds like. ...and it is scary!
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lucca Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 09:37 PM
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14. I feel the same way.
I too, hate it........
It sends chills up my spine.

"They have taken me from the wild
But they'll never take the wild from me
My soul is of the earth
My spirit is forever free..."

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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 09:22 PM
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13. Let me check my list.
14 POINTS OF FASCISM
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
5. Rampant sexism.
6. A controlled mass media.
7. Obsession with national security.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
9. Power of corporations protected.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
14.a) Fraudulent elections.
14.b) and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

Yup, pretty much.
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